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TDK Develops 1TB-capacity Optical Disc

At Ceatec Japan, TDK highlighted a 1TB capacity optical disc—enough to hold a sizeable Blu-ray collection in the palm of your hand.

The disc has a whopping 16 recording layers, where a 25GB Blu-ray has just one, and a beefed up 50GB Blu-ray is dual-layered. It also takes the same time to read one layer of TDK's product as it does a Blu-ray disc. The only problem? The new disc's recording layers are about 2.5-times as thick as they need to be to be compatible with Blu-ray specifications. Also: figuring out how to stuff that much bonus content in to make it worth selling movies on these things.

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dabri55692d ago

Honestly, I think this is as good of a reason as any to start going to digital distribution. Who really wants to pay the inflated price for new media every few years when we can get higher quality with no restrictions for a cheaper cost with dd.

TotalPS3Fanboy5692d ago (Edited 5692d ago )

"Who really wants to pay the inflated price for new media every few years when we can get higher quality with no restrictions for a cheaper cost with dd..."

The people who doesn't want to spend two whole weeks just downloading a 1 TB file.

The same people who doesn't want to pay $150 a month for an ultra fast 50 Mb fiber optic line just so it doesn't take a two whole weeks just to download a 1 TB file.

dabri55692d ago

Steam predownloads the files for the game before it's release date so on the day of you dl a patch to unlock the game. That argument is old and not very good. Besides I seriously doubt there will ever be a 1 tb game.

zootang5692d ago (Edited 5692d ago )

What happens if the company you bought the downloads from goes out of business?

Edit: What happens if the stuff you downloaded it on breaks and the company you bought the stuff from is out of business?

DarkTower8055692d ago (Edited 5692d ago )

Digital distribution is feasible and will be here sooner or later. Everyone seems to think this means you will have to download the game. The way I see this going is that the HDD from the console will be removable, you take it to your local retailer, pick the game(s) you want, and they will upload it to your HDD. Simple as that.

The issue I have with digital distribution though is that this will not allow us to buy/sell used games. This is also why publishers want this to happen.

nickjkl5692d ago (Edited 5692d ago )

or i could have one 1 tb blu ray thats really expensive http://hardware.slashdot.or...
of course that was 2 years ago

Kewl_Kat5692d ago

@catguykyou
My internet connection is average. I can safely assume majority of north america is, too. The issue isn't whether or not you download the game before launch, during launch, or after... you still have to download. In that period of time I'm downloading a big game, other things that I could do online would be greatly limited 'cause the game download takes up too much resources. For example, when I was downloading left4dead 2, my usually fast chrome browser would suddenly slow down so much to a point that I'd just close it down. I had to chose between pausing the game download and play bad company 2... I can't do both at the same time. With physical media, just pop it in the dvd drive and install away.

cjseaton5692d ago

Large capacity media has more of an effect on the Music and Movie industries than video gaming. DD has it's place and advantages as does streaming HD video. For the most part, streaming HD video looks good, but it still uses compression to get the product to the consumer. A 1 TB disc would give a higher level of quality for HD video without having to use any or high levels of compression. Video games would also benefit by allowing for higher texture bit rates for future definition gameplay. Just because you can compress it doesn't mean you need to if you don't have to.

ChickeyCantor5692d ago

" $150 a month for an ultra fast 50"

Damn its expensive over there.
Here in the Netherlands you can get 60mb for 50 Euros = 69.47500 U.S. dollars.

Darkfocus5692d ago

"The same people who doesn't want to pay $150 a month for an ultra fast 50 Mb fiber optic line just so it doesn't take a two whole weeks just to download a 1 TB file."

I pay almost that much for 3mb where I live :(

darthv725692d ago

"The new disc's recording layers are about 2.5-times as thick as they need to be to be compatible with Blu-ray specifications."

Why does this new disc have to be compatible with bluray spec? The current bluray spec for movies seems to be just fine. I dont see a reason this cant be its own spec for straight up data.

Companies have been working on increasing the density per layer since optical discs came out. Just because we have a consumer level of CD/DVD/BD doesnt mean there cant coexist the non consumer grade optical formats. It isnt like they are trying to challenge each other.

As far as digital dist...its coming more and more each day. When you download something to the hdd it now has become physical if you think about it. It isnt like we are playing fully streaming games with no physical or logical copies of the data.....not yet.

Bleyd5692d ago

There's something else that everyone seems to be forgetting here. Sony already tried doing digital download only for a system and it did not succeed like they wanted it to. This was with the PSP Go system. They had some success with it but not the raging success that they wanted to get and it's simply because consumers like to get physical things when they make purchases.

Steam is all well and good but it is not the mainstream delivery system for games and will not be for a very long time. Consumers love their discs too much.

nveenio5692d ago

We're two generations away from a 1TB game. The only thing you'd use a 1TB optical disc for right now is physical storage (emptying the contents of your 1TB backup hard drive onto a disc so that you can store a new backup on the hard drive).

I used to think that we'd start to see crazy realistic worlds once the hardware would support it, but the truth is that developers just don't want to spend the time. They'd never fill a 1TB disc (that's 25 MGS4 games, btw).

What WILL happen is the creation of procedural worlds. Take GTA4, for instance. The devs really only allow you to enter buildings that will eventually have some sort of mission connection. They didn't want to build EVERY interior. BUT, down the line, they'll take a game like GTA4, build it just like GTA4, but add procedural interiors so that you can actually enter EVERY building. You'll be able to break into homes and kill people sleeping in their beds, walk in on a woman showering, etc. How? Because the game engine creates those parts FOR the devs. All you'll see at this point is a slight increase in texture space requirements (to prevent the cut-and-paste feeling you'd get with repeat textures everywhere), but it still won't approach 1TB.

dabri55692d ago

what happens when the game you bought on disk breaks or stops being read?

Most companies that sell game DD have commented that if they go out of business that they will unlock all their titles so you don't have to be online to play it. Now assuming the game stops working on your system...well its the same as if your physical disk doesn't work. I would assume because this would be for consoles we would get better support than what you assume. Do you really see Sony allowing a game to be sold by them that doesn't work on your system?

badz1495692d ago (Edited 5692d ago )

"higher quality with no restrictions for a cheaper cost with dd"

1. dd is in no way or form have higher quality than Bluray. bandwidth and uncompress sound says hi!
2. no restriction?? connection speed, bandwidth, DRM don't ring a bell?

aside from being weightless compared to optical media, DD is currently not having any advantage over optical media especially Bluray!

Ninjews5692d ago

@catguykyou So I'm suppose to believe that a company going out of buisness is going to take the time to unlock all of their existing games because they promised, c'mon. I use steam, I like it, but digital distribution is still a long ways off from being the main source of distribution. I still rather get physical copies of games, then download them. The games I usally get from dd are usually on sale i.e. l4d2 for $18, same for borderlands etc, etc. That is the only factor that will make me choose dd over physical copies.

Sheddi5691d ago

damn its crazy! I guess here in Sweden we are lucky.
60-100Mbit/sec is like $50 a month here...

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Marcus Fenix5692d ago

I like to have my games in physical format.

Hellsvacancy5692d ago (Edited 5692d ago )

As do i, well, i like to own (in my hands if possible) anythin and everythin i buy

Ive never even bought an MP3 believe me or not, id MUCH rather own my music on Vinyl if not CD, if my laptop blew up thats my music GONE (i guess u could say the same if my house was to blow up)

dabri55692d ago

I would like the option. I like just turning on the system and quickly scrolling through my library of games and picking which I want to play then having the option to switch on the fly.

dabri55692d ago

You would just redownload them. All services keep trackof your purchases and let you redownload however many times you want.

AntoineDodson5692d ago

Yea but what if you want to play one of your games at a FRIEND. He has to download it too? I honestly don't see a future yet in DD as discs are still the easy way to go.

Darkfocus5692d ago

you just back it up to a memory stick before you go over. I do it all the time with steam games.

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xAlmostPro5692d ago

i personally think it will go from optical discs.. and downloading things such as music, videos and small games(as it is just now).. and straight to real-time streaming.. by the time every household connection is able to withstand downloading full size 20+gb games within the hour..

PELVIC THRUST ACTION5692d ago

How much is Warhawk on PS3? Socom? Gran Turismo Prologue? They're so much cheaper then at the stores right? I love having nothing intangible for full retail price. Makes me feel special. I also love how I can't resell something.

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ApocalypseShadow5692d ago

but not anytime SOON.........

no victory for the bluray haters here.....

xg-ei8ht5692d ago

Blu-ray upto 50gb will be fine for some time i'm guessing.

Fishy Fingers5692d ago

That's pretty crazy. No need to it yet though, or anytime soon. At least outside of the private sector.

R_aVe_N5692d ago

Seems like a waste of time and money to even work on something like that at this point.

PS360fanboy5692d ago

It's called evolution. Blu-ray is about 5 times bigger than a DVD9. This is a lot more times bigger than a blu-ray. This would eventually be necessary, I guess.

Next gen should use at least up to 100 gb discs, judging from the speed of things...

OC_MurphysLaw5692d ago

No way! Now...I can see the disc drives of said machines being able to read a disc that big...but no way will game developers approach that. Too costly...games would run $100+ for sure and the market would implode.

20-25GB sized games will become the standard and they will mostly be that big because developers wont have to worry as much about compression as they do now.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio12d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing12d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9212d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit12d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing12d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9212d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Report: Injustice 3 in Development at NetherRealm Studios

Thanks to the slip-up of an artist working on the title, we now have more evidence that a new Injustice game is in the works.

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Spiders Studio, Developers of GreedFall: The Dying World, Announce Liquidation of the Company

Spiders: "We're going to cut straight to the chase so you're not left wondering: After a long period without clear answers, we have received confirmation that Spiders is being liquidated.

What does it mean? This means the company as a whole no longer exists. We'll cease our functions immediately. The planned DLC will release via Nacon, and then-- well, that's it.

We're sorry that it's come to this and would like to thank each and every one of you for your support over the years.

If you have any questions or run into issues with your games, please contact Nacon directly as we'll no longer be able to reply."