Maybe the controller, but a mouse? Not buying that, sorry.

Move has lag, the motion on screen comes far after you move, mouse does not have that

yea got the move yesterday...there is no lag at all in sports champion. and it plays like heaven on time crisis!

I've been playing Tumble for weeks now...

...and I believe it.

Because it moves in 3D space, it's literally like you're moving actual objects.

If you tried doing it with a mouse, you couldn't get the blocks lined up right.

Obviously, this isn't the same as playing TF2 on PS3 or MAG on PC, but still.

The Move has no limits.

I guess, in a way, perhaps if you held your mouse 8ft above your desk/pad. The increased distance allows more room for error, where as your mouse is essentially sat on a flat version of your screen.

it kinda like a mouse but why the hell they didn't implement it in MAG like a mouse, dumb bounding box, how hard can it be to have a setting for no bounding box, it already has size adjustment why not none.

"It gives me the accuracy that I’m used to with the keyboard and mouse." He never said it was "like" a mouse.

If this is true I expect to see lots of professional gamers switching from mouse and keyboard to Move.

I would feel a lot better about the Move if Sony would push Move support in not only 1st party tittles but also third party tittles as well. Games like CoD: Black Ops and the new MOH should have Move support out of the box.

Otherwise the Move is nothing more than a curiosity. Because if the Move is THE way to play FPS then support need to be universal across the board. Right now I fear that using Move too much in MAG would rot my DS3 skills in other shooters.

It is like a mouse if devs make it so that there is little or no deadzone; or they could just do like the conduit and you can FULLY CUSTOMIZE YOUR AIM SETTINGS.

isnt it gorgeous how we treat animals.

That’s Zuckermans famous pig.

Move controller was extremely accurate great times back then

That definitely would have been the absolute worst time for stick drift to happen...

I always wanted a true to life surgery simulator for PSVR1. I always knew those Move controllers were precise AF under the proper conditions.

Move was a very accurate device under good conditions. Dr Marks even wanted to open it up for hobbyists and developers to extract more data to do more things. I even seen him use it for space, astronaut like simulations.

Sony always had the tech. They just needed the software to go with it. PS Move limit was not having an analog stick. Which it seems the PS5 controller made up for that.

I would like to see them use PS VR 2 for surgery or something with that eye tracking built in.

At least it wasn’t used for a mini-sub

It failed because motion controls can’t beat traditional controls. I’ll admit the tech has come ways since then but I will always choose a controller over a wand.

It was just a terrible controller. It was so crap that Sony refused to waste any more time or money fixing it. Despite me loving PSVR, the move controllers were the biggest let down of the generation. Always felt like they were a generation behind. Even for the ps3 days.

As a stand alone it failed. But it worked well for VR. But I'm glad to see the end of them with PSVR2.

It failed because it wasn't good and didn't have games. Even the wii was a trend and people are over controllers like that for games.

Little early to call Playstation VR a success too. Like other VR platforms it's a niche product and it's easily the worst VR headset, it's cheap so that helps.

It actually didn't fail or was a failure. It sold around 15 million before VR even showed up and had many games to play. Who knows how many more millions of the device were sold for PSVR. Especially when two are required for more immersive hands on gaming like Iron Man or Blood and Truth.

Dr Marks created Move as for some experiences but he knew that the Eyetoy and PS Move weren't core experiences for everybody like the Dual Shock controller. He's said that many times in interviews. It wasn't to take over regular couch controller gaming.

PS Move not only had titles for casuals to play for motion gaming on PS3, you could also play core games like Killzone and Resistance. Unlike its competitors, Wii and Kinect.

Unlike its competitors, PS Move continues to live on and be sold for VR. Wii motion gaming is pretty much dead. And Kinect itself is dead. All those casuals that propped up those other devices, went off to play on their cellphones. Basically making them a fad that didn't last. PS Move continues to be used and works on PS5 and can continue to be used for the life of PS5 for those using PSVR 1. That's 3 generations that PS Move will have been used.

Maybe the writer needs to make an article on why the Wiimote and Kinect are dead and can't be used on Switch or Series S/X. While PS Move continues to exist.

PS Move was the best form of motion gaming of the last, last generation. Wiimote and Kinect were technically far worse than the PS Move. Only Wiimotion Plus could compare and it was too little too late, with only one or two marquee titles proving the 'Plus' being a worthwhile upgrade.

While there weren't enough PS Move games, at least there were some true 'core games' that supported it, from KillZone 3 to Resident Evil 5. Something that Microsoft's 'casual motion system' could not offer, and most Nintendo Wii games didn't offer traditional controller support, whereas PS3 games almost always had a DualShock 3 option.

I'm a big fan of light gun shooters, and both Wiimote and PS Move ushered back in this genre, something the Kinect couldn't do as well. If you think the PS Move "sucked", then go back and play the light gun shooters on it, something not available on 360, Switch, PS4, XBO, XBSX, PS5.

After the PS Move, we did get one light gun system for consoles, the PDP Mars, and I can assure you, the tech inside that thing is truly unreliable junk.

So to sum it up, the last, last generation had three different motion control styles:
Microsoft - went straight stupid with Kinect, and was overall the least reliable worst experience.
Nintendo - all games supported Wiimote, but this was often to its detriment, not enough games supported traditional controls.
Sony - didn't have a ton of PS Move games, but the overall library supported traditional controls (this is overall the best outcome).

Only ever bought a couple Move-only games like Sorcery and the Fight, but I’ve gone ape over PSVR! I’ll always choose the sticks over the controller given the choice for VR. Big fan now.

Nintendo had better marketing and seemed like the real thing.

Xbox and playstation seemed like imitation.

Well,

The "failure" has a controller for the PSVR and soon the PS5 VR.

For all the Wii's success, where is the Wiimote? And Kinect, yeah MS literally took away any functions on the xbox one with updates.

move had some great games and was an awesome "peripheral". if you played wonderbook or resistance then you would probably agree with me.

Failed because there wasn't enough games or "arcade classics" that used the Move. Still use it to play Time Crisis and HOTD from time to time

Wouldn't say failed given its second life as a PSVR option

I had one and beyond the initial “wow this is cool” hour after unboxing it, it basically sat in a cupboard gathering dust.

It wasn’t that fun or revolutionary really when we already had the wiimote, Kinect was more interesting from a technology standpoint but ultimately, the only good motion games were on Wii - not Xbox or PS.

The move was Sony attempt to cash in on the wii craze. Hell, the last article about the move that actually generated a lot of heat on here was over 4,000 days ago. Nobody talks about this, VR, or the vita until someone shames it.. then all the defenders come out the woodworks.

It is basically only peripheral being used for 3 generations,.. So how is it a fail,.. ?? Still being used for Beat Saber, BoxVR,... I heard it was really hard to get. Article is just shit.

Another one of Sony's demented ideas like PS Home and the PSP Go.

I think the problem that Sony faced with the PS move was the PR marketing mess they created around the thing.
1) if it was aimed toward casual well there was nothing casual about setting understanding what you would need to play a game (some require only the camera, others 1 move and some 2 moves)
2) If it was aimed at a more core audience then sorry but the game library was quite small or non-existant.
3) Wonderbook

If Sony would have communicated better and support better the Move I think it would have fared a lot better
My personal favorite game is Tiger wood PGa 11, because the Psmove really makes the game shine.

wait, it failed?

for me it failed because it never went down in price and only a handful of games appealed to me on it
mainly no more heroes and the resident evil cronicles games

It wasn't useful until VR came along but it hindered VR due to its lack of analogue stick. Fortunately psvr2 isn't just using old hardware because of the excess amount of stock available

Failed? What spanned 3 generations and still being sold. Tidy little profit for Sony if you ask me.
Shouldn't this conversation be kinect failed?

The move controller was and still is great for FPS games, I used them alot with killzone 3, socom 4 and MAG. The deadzone aiming was very very competitive, just as good as mouse and keyboard if set up right. It was comfortable to use too in conjunction with the separate analog move controller in the other hand. Imo it has been under utilised and could still be used today in most shooters.

The reason the MOVE failed is obvious. Motion gaming is for casual gamers and Nintendo did an incredible and much better job marketing to them. At the time where casuals were all in gaming on the phone, the Wii brought them to consoles. However, Playstation is a core gamer machine just like XBOX and as the article stated the cost to enter for casual gamers was not only a barrier but even the look of them (heard people say MOVE looks like a sex toy). All these peripheral things fail because most core gamers are not into these things like Home, 3D Gaming, Move, Kinect, and yes I'm saying it, VR. Core gamers support is the consistent life of gaming.

The casual gamer may stick around for a little bit like the Wii because of the fad and hype for non-core gamers but those folks eventually move on to something else. VR was to be that next thing but it has not caught on as big as the Wii with casual gamers. To its credit it has caught on more with some core gamers but as a VR owner, its losing a lot of steam.

If Sony wants to do the smart thing, MOVE on from VR because it will not be supported by most gaming companies that make games for core gamers who don't want to be wearing goggles for hours. Casuals will not be spending the huge investment of a PS5 for them to play PSVR.

I went to a conference in Seattle right when the Moves were announced that was dedicated specifically to showcasing them. We went out for drinks with some of the execs that were there and we specifically asked them, "why are there no thumbsticks on these things!?" They told us that they didn't want to create a controller with multiple movement inputs because it would confuse people. I told them that that very decision is what's going to doom the controller. And sure enough, even with the Navigation controller, they couldn't create enough software to justify any hype around it.

My own opinion is that it just wasn’t that appealing, the dildo controllers and the lack of worth while games kept it back.

Lack of an analog stick on it in my opinion.