cause kinect is gonna fail hard by default of course

The problem with this article is it states everyone has the same hardware with the Move yet contradicts itself because it talks about Wii Motion Plus and how not everyone has the hardware so not many developers will support it. Is this not the same scenario Move faces right now? There are over 35 million Playstation 3's out there but how many have Move? So developers also face the same uphill battle of creating Move games since the userbase of Move owners pales in comparison to Playstation 3 owners who play with the Dualshock. This is why many games will have Move support but can be played without the Move. So as a designer is this really exploiting the Move or is it just adding Move support?

I bought the Move and I think it's one hell of a great piece of technology. It's what i wish the Wii was like and it's in high def. Trouble is the software sucks for it and there really is no must have game right now aside from maybe Wii Sports, i mean Sports Champions.

sarcastic gamer said something positive about the ps3?
lol?

Yes Move is better but to most people Move is just like Wii. They not gonna pay extra for a better experience. They can get the same type of fun on the Wii for cheap and the Wii has more motion games to play. More Move games will be coming and sales will grow.

I just think its sad that motion control is finally being done right with the Move but it came out after the fad is dying and without the support it needs to really take off. The basic Wiimote is such a piece of garbage I'm still not sure how anyone bought into it. Just sucks Nintendo won their gamble to launch a casual based system with a rushed controller and overpriced Gamecube era hardware.

what will kill off move is you dont need it. You can play kilzone 3 exc. with a normal controller. The wii was sucessful because dev and gamers had to use it. You wana play zelda gotta use the wiimote. With kinect the games are built for it so you have to use it if you wana play the games. On ps3 its optional so why use it. Its cool and ok for sports but realy who would rather use move for killzone/unchared 3/cod, its not as fun. Sorcery looks ok but not 150 bux for it and move good. Only casuals want motion controlls. Ms is going for cauals with kinect. Sony is too theyre just trying to make it seem hip for hardcore gamers to use the same thing they hated on for 4 years. Wiimotes sucked before but now that sony says move is hardcore its cool? lol... Il buy it the minute they focus on it as a platform and build exclusive games only for move. Something creative not just add move support so the core gamers buy move.

what's funny is that its a popularity issue, ipod is more popular than the zune products, but is far less capable as a music and video player. The same will be true for nintendo this time around in motion gaming. The advantage nintendo has is the fan base and the rights to the characters we know and love. I think there is room to go around 3-ways in motion gaming. It doesn't have to be one or the other.

First company to release the Master Piece, THE ONE gaming series that cries out to be remade for motion controls.

Metal Combat, Wins the motion war.

That, or HD NIGHTS lol!

in my house. I guess that's all that matters.

I don't understand what's with this obsession with wanting each others consoles and games to fail. What is the problem if the Move sells well? Why does it make people feel better to bash it and wish for it to be destroyed. Why is it that we can't praise one thing without tearing something else down? Why can't we just be friends? When I had a SNES and my friend had a Genesis, we never acted this way towards each other. Since when did gaming become so violent and competitive? If people love the Move why hate them for it? Sigh. And to think I used to play games for relaxation.

dont care wich motion control is the best.. or wich console has it.. if i can play good games with my move im happy with it (and if others can play good games with their machines good for them)... who is gonna sell the most.. dunno.. do i care.. "only if low sales affect the amount of games i can get".. but i think that wont happen so everybody will be happy in the end.

my sister already sold her wii since playing on my move now she is a happy move owner

I think that the Move is so precise and accurate as of now that it will still be used once the PS4 comes out in the next few years. It may have released a little late in the PS3's life cycle but it could be there day 1 for the PS4 leading to greater support and sales.

isnt it gorgeous how we treat animals.

That’s Zuckermans famous pig.

Move controller was extremely accurate great times back then

That definitely would have been the absolute worst time for stick drift to happen...

I always wanted a true to life surgery simulator for PSVR1. I always knew those Move controllers were precise AF under the proper conditions.

Move was a very accurate device under good conditions. Dr Marks even wanted to open it up for hobbyists and developers to extract more data to do more things. I even seen him use it for space, astronaut like simulations.

Sony always had the tech. They just needed the software to go with it. PS Move limit was not having an analog stick. Which it seems the PS5 controller made up for that.

I would like to see them use PS VR 2 for surgery or something with that eye tracking built in.

At least it wasn’t used for a mini-sub

It failed because motion controls can’t beat traditional controls. I’ll admit the tech has come ways since then but I will always choose a controller over a wand.

It was just a terrible controller. It was so crap that Sony refused to waste any more time or money fixing it. Despite me loving PSVR, the move controllers were the biggest let down of the generation. Always felt like they were a generation behind. Even for the ps3 days.

As a stand alone it failed. But it worked well for VR. But I'm glad to see the end of them with PSVR2.

It failed because it wasn't good and didn't have games. Even the wii was a trend and people are over controllers like that for games.

Little early to call Playstation VR a success too. Like other VR platforms it's a niche product and it's easily the worst VR headset, it's cheap so that helps.

It actually didn't fail or was a failure. It sold around 15 million before VR even showed up and had many games to play. Who knows how many more millions of the device were sold for PSVR. Especially when two are required for more immersive hands on gaming like Iron Man or Blood and Truth.

Dr Marks created Move as for some experiences but he knew that the Eyetoy and PS Move weren't core experiences for everybody like the Dual Shock controller. He's said that many times in interviews. It wasn't to take over regular couch controller gaming.

PS Move not only had titles for casuals to play for motion gaming on PS3, you could also play core games like Killzone and Resistance. Unlike its competitors, Wii and Kinect.

Unlike its competitors, PS Move continues to live on and be sold for VR. Wii motion gaming is pretty much dead. And Kinect itself is dead. All those casuals that propped up those other devices, went off to play on their cellphones. Basically making them a fad that didn't last. PS Move continues to be used and works on PS5 and can continue to be used for the life of PS5 for those using PSVR 1. That's 3 generations that PS Move will have been used.

Maybe the writer needs to make an article on why the Wiimote and Kinect are dead and can't be used on Switch or Series S/X. While PS Move continues to exist.

PS Move was the best form of motion gaming of the last, last generation. Wiimote and Kinect were technically far worse than the PS Move. Only Wiimotion Plus could compare and it was too little too late, with only one or two marquee titles proving the 'Plus' being a worthwhile upgrade.

While there weren't enough PS Move games, at least there were some true 'core games' that supported it, from KillZone 3 to Resident Evil 5. Something that Microsoft's 'casual motion system' could not offer, and most Nintendo Wii games didn't offer traditional controller support, whereas PS3 games almost always had a DualShock 3 option.

I'm a big fan of light gun shooters, and both Wiimote and PS Move ushered back in this genre, something the Kinect couldn't do as well. If you think the PS Move "sucked", then go back and play the light gun shooters on it, something not available on 360, Switch, PS4, XBO, XBSX, PS5.

After the PS Move, we did get one light gun system for consoles, the PDP Mars, and I can assure you, the tech inside that thing is truly unreliable junk.

So to sum it up, the last, last generation had three different motion control styles:
Microsoft - went straight stupid with Kinect, and was overall the least reliable worst experience.
Nintendo - all games supported Wiimote, but this was often to its detriment, not enough games supported traditional controls.
Sony - didn't have a ton of PS Move games, but the overall library supported traditional controls (this is overall the best outcome).

Only ever bought a couple Move-only games like Sorcery and the Fight, but I’ve gone ape over PSVR! I’ll always choose the sticks over the controller given the choice for VR. Big fan now.

Nintendo had better marketing and seemed like the real thing.

Xbox and playstation seemed like imitation.

Well,

The "failure" has a controller for the PSVR and soon the PS5 VR.

For all the Wii's success, where is the Wiimote? And Kinect, yeah MS literally took away any functions on the xbox one with updates.

move had some great games and was an awesome "peripheral". if you played wonderbook or resistance then you would probably agree with me.

Failed because there wasn't enough games or "arcade classics" that used the Move. Still use it to play Time Crisis and HOTD from time to time

Wouldn't say failed given its second life as a PSVR option

I had one and beyond the initial “wow this is cool” hour after unboxing it, it basically sat in a cupboard gathering dust.

It wasn’t that fun or revolutionary really when we already had the wiimote, Kinect was more interesting from a technology standpoint but ultimately, the only good motion games were on Wii - not Xbox or PS.

The move was Sony attempt to cash in on the wii craze. Hell, the last article about the move that actually generated a lot of heat on here was over 4,000 days ago. Nobody talks about this, VR, or the vita until someone shames it.. then all the defenders come out the woodworks.

It is basically only peripheral being used for 3 generations,.. So how is it a fail,.. ?? Still being used for Beat Saber, BoxVR,... I heard it was really hard to get. Article is just shit.

Another one of Sony's demented ideas like PS Home and the PSP Go.

I think the problem that Sony faced with the PS move was the PR marketing mess they created around the thing.
1) if it was aimed toward casual well there was nothing casual about setting understanding what you would need to play a game (some require only the camera, others 1 move and some 2 moves)
2) If it was aimed at a more core audience then sorry but the game library was quite small or non-existant.
3) Wonderbook

If Sony would have communicated better and support better the Move I think it would have fared a lot better
My personal favorite game is Tiger wood PGa 11, because the Psmove really makes the game shine.

wait, it failed?

for me it failed because it never went down in price and only a handful of games appealed to me on it
mainly no more heroes and the resident evil cronicles games

It wasn't useful until VR came along but it hindered VR due to its lack of analogue stick. Fortunately psvr2 isn't just using old hardware because of the excess amount of stock available

Failed? What spanned 3 generations and still being sold. Tidy little profit for Sony if you ask me.
Shouldn't this conversation be kinect failed?

The move controller was and still is great for FPS games, I used them alot with killzone 3, socom 4 and MAG. The deadzone aiming was very very competitive, just as good as mouse and keyboard if set up right. It was comfortable to use too in conjunction with the separate analog move controller in the other hand. Imo it has been under utilised and could still be used today in most shooters.

The reason the MOVE failed is obvious. Motion gaming is for casual gamers and Nintendo did an incredible and much better job marketing to them. At the time where casuals were all in gaming on the phone, the Wii brought them to consoles. However, Playstation is a core gamer machine just like XBOX and as the article stated the cost to enter for casual gamers was not only a barrier but even the look of them (heard people say MOVE looks like a sex toy). All these peripheral things fail because most core gamers are not into these things like Home, 3D Gaming, Move, Kinect, and yes I'm saying it, VR. Core gamers support is the consistent life of gaming.

The casual gamer may stick around for a little bit like the Wii because of the fad and hype for non-core gamers but those folks eventually move on to something else. VR was to be that next thing but it has not caught on as big as the Wii with casual gamers. To its credit it has caught on more with some core gamers but as a VR owner, its losing a lot of steam.

If Sony wants to do the smart thing, MOVE on from VR because it will not be supported by most gaming companies that make games for core gamers who don't want to be wearing goggles for hours. Casuals will not be spending the huge investment of a PS5 for them to play PSVR.

I went to a conference in Seattle right when the Moves were announced that was dedicated specifically to showcasing them. We went out for drinks with some of the execs that were there and we specifically asked them, "why are there no thumbsticks on these things!?" They told us that they didn't want to create a controller with multiple movement inputs because it would confuse people. I told them that that very decision is what's going to doom the controller. And sure enough, even with the Navigation controller, they couldn't create enough software to justify any hype around it.

My own opinion is that it just wasn’t that appealing, the dildo controllers and the lack of worth while games kept it back.

Lack of an analog stick on it in my opinion.