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Xbox 360 Update: Still the Best Software Experience

Technologizer says: "Microsoft let me try the new Xbox 360 software before its public release, and while I can’t take full advantage of ESPN (more on that later), the other changes are still enough to solidify the Xbox 360′s standing as the best software experience on a game console — provided you’re willing to pay for Xbox Live."

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MasterKen5707d ago

...but is it an extra $10 per year great?

attackmantis5707d ago

Agreed, I'm still not happy with the Xbox Live price hike!

D4RkNIKON5707d ago

Seems like a few disagree'rs are happy with the price hike!

AndrewRyan5706d ago

While I play games on my PC and PS3 for free.

Wakka_5707d ago

Much better than PSN for sure.

Akagi5707d ago

Apples and oranges, Wakka. Apples and oranges.

Crystallis5707d ago

"Much better than PSN for sure."

If you didnt have that avatar to one of my favorite Final Fantasy's I'd blast you for that comment. Consider yourself lucky this time ya!

OSU_Gamer5707d ago (Edited 5707d ago )

although i think that PSN and XBL are both very good services...how is apples and oranges?

Do you even know what that means?

JOLLY15707d ago

Really all citrus fruits.

drewboy7045707d ago

I really don't think the writer had to bring Sony into this. Come on!!! can't we have an article solely about one console that isn't from Nintendo.

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feelintheflow5707d ago

is that you are paying for xbox live and you still can't get espn3 if your isp doesn't subscribe, which mine doesn't.. That is so gay. MSoft should have made it mandatory that if you have xbox live you get espn3.

OSU_Gamer5707d ago (Edited 5707d ago )

agreed

I have Time Warner, and won't be able to use an application that I will be paying for.

I do blame that partly on ESPN though. I assumed Time Warner was one of the biggest cable companies and they can't even get ESPN3?

feelintheflow5707d ago

its that they don't want to pay for it. ESPN chargers the isp per subscriber to have it. I am with Cablevision, another huge company, and they don't offer it either. When I talked to customer service that is the answer I got. So I do blame ESPN/Disney along with MSoft on this one.

WildArmed5707d ago

Wow.
I dont plan on using ESPN3 anyway, but that is quite stupid.
And I do blame both MS n ESPN equally.
Your ISP shoudln't really have to do w/ your Live connection.. (unless I'm missing something).

If you have internet access, you should be able to use it =/

gamingdroid5707d ago

I'm sure MS would want that. It wouldn't make sense otherwise.

Probably some licensing and legal issues involved. Perhaps you should take it up with ISP, why they aren't agreeing to the terms?

TheBrit5707d ago

how in the heck can Microsoft tell/force a cable provider to sign up for ESPN3 from Disney??!!!!!!

It's not their fault that it's not available.

That's no different from xbox 360's and ps3's not being available in certain countries.

Certain demo's are only available in certain countries - again not microsoft nor sony's fault - it is just the way laws work.

they cannot make it Mandatory that you get ESPN3 if you have xbox live.

kndy5707d ago

if this espn xbl thing takes off, we could definitely be seeing more isp's signing into this deal. heres to wishful thinking, i want my nba

MorganX5707d ago

I belive Time warner "has" signed an agreement with Disney and it's customers will get ESPN3 with at no charge. It was Disney dictating the charges.

CR7JUVE18975707d ago

Whoa, Hold on. You get ESPN3 with this on XBOX Live as well???

Sweet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!

I can now watch Juventus Every Sunday on my TV!!!!!!!!!

corneliuscrust5707d ago (Edited 5707d ago )

Needs to check yourself. Because you're opening the floodgates to tiered internet services. ISP exclusivity for ANYTHING is absolutely insane. The worst part is that this seems like such a small issue now, but once the genie is out of the bottle, our internet will look a lot like our cable. A POS.

MorganX5707d ago

@cornelius

Doesn't really have anything to do with Xbox. This is already happening between the content provider and ISPs. If anything, MS adding it to Xbox put pressure on Disney to stop charging ISPs a premium regardless of whether or not their subscribers accessed it.

corneliuscrust5705d ago

Saying it's a HORRIBLE trend for the internet.

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siyrobbo5707d ago

still get the dash update for free

FACTUAL evidence5707d ago

It's like Sony doesn't want to beat the competition. All they really have to do is add:

Game ratings: Rate your disc, 1-5 stars.
Voice messaging: (c'mon should of been day 1)
ID change: Why can't we change the psn ID? sick of my name personally, plus alot of trophies.
Party system: can invite people to any game via a custom ps3 invitation system. PSHome has the features of xbox live put it on the XMB!!

Sony just do that and you won't have to worry about another firmware again.

number475707d ago

Which is why you guys are excited about doing things you do on a PC for an extra 60/mo.. instead of looking forward to a game -- on your game-- console..

MorganX5707d ago

There is no party chat on a PC. There is not party Netflix on a PC. There is no closed community with avoidance on a PC. There is no meaningful gaming community on a PC. And what about people who can't afford a PC, or don't want their kids on a PC?

Obviously, anyone paying for Live! can afford it, and like what they get. You can get a McDouble for $1, I prefer the $7 Angus burger at a nearby tavern. You have your cheap, or even free McDouble, been there done that. Just don't bitch to me about paying for my Burger, unless I'm asking to borrow money from you to pay for it.

Unicron5707d ago

No party chat on a PC?

You... you're joking right?

IaMs125707d ago

Nope apparently no party chat on PC at all
-Steam (yes Steam has a chat function i used it other day with 4 of us total)
-Vent
-Skype
-Xfire?

yea nope none at all. No community either
-mods

PS3 is wayy better then a PC, because the PC is stealing ideas from it

/s

Really?

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tinybigman5707d ago

personally im quite happy as a silver member.

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SuperStrokey11235707d ago

Is it an extra 3 cents a day better?

/s

ranmafandude5707d ago

i'm just find with psn thanks.

tacosRcool5707d ago

PSN all they way!

Coming from a PC background WILL NEVER PAY for online service in order to play my games online when I already pay for internet.

8-bit5707d ago (Edited 5707d ago )

I refuse to pay too. Just wait and see if COD will start charging to play online, and 360 users will have to pay for an XBL sub on top of a COD sub to play their beloved FPS online.

@testerg35, I know it is a multiplat game that sells well on both consoles. PSN is free, my point is that you will have to pay two subscription fees to play online where as PSN would only have to pay for one. I don't intend on spending any money to play online ever so count me out on the whole thing.

testerg355707d ago

8-bit, MW2 isn't the highest selling FPS on the PS3? Wouldn't that be PS3s most beloved FPS too?

TheBrit5707d ago

You are wrong my friend.
You wont have to pay to play online. it will be just like EA's all access pass. you buy the game new and you play online, you buy it used and you have to pony up 10 bucks for the online access.

and even * if * they do make you pay to play online, you think the PS3 will be exempt from that??? All consoles that have the game will have to pay regardless and then people will stop buying their product and they will take away the fees.

tacosRcool5706d ago

8-Bit is the only one that makes any sense. Why would you want to pay more money, on top of the game, online service to play that game online, and you internet connection. Well I guess many people have either 1).Tons of money 2). Don't pay the bills 3).Don't care about money or 4).Don't know how to manage money and/or any other the other 3

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BigKev455707d ago

Your just fine with one bubble too.

aviator1895707d ago

this update is obviously for people with an xbox 360. of course you're going to prefer psn if you've got a ps3....probably because this software update is just for the 360.
and why do you compare the online services of the two consoles when this post is obviously about a fall software update for the 360??

MGRogue20175707d ago (Edited 5707d ago )

... When will we be able to try out the preview update that we've signed up for?

Also, I signed up with my old Elite 120GB console & now I've got my new 250GB Halo Reach Limited Edition 360. :D

Hopefully, Microsoft sees that & doesn't send the preview dashboard to my old console :(

I've registered the new console to my gamertag now.. so it should be alright, I think.

HIGGINZOB5707d ago

You won't be able to go on xbox live until the update is released to everyone...thats a whole month of xbox live which you paid for. Oops.

TheBrit5707d ago

you just have some video disabled and party chats i believe. you can still talk to friends in game lobbies and during the game though.

kazman5707d ago

they will have live if they are in the preview!! if you get it unofficially then yeah they wont be able too log onto live. get your facts strait before you say something.

HIGGINZOB5707d ago

I think you misunderstood me. I meant that he won't be able to go on xbox live because the update can only be played online with the console you signed up with.

Lord Gunchrote5707d ago

You just said a whole lot of nothing.

gamingdroid5707d ago (Edited 5707d ago )

I think you are SOL, because I'm pretty sure MS were very specific about the dashboard should only be downloaded to the console you registered it on otherwise you won't be able to connect to Xbox Live afterwards.

I suggest you update your console information online if possible at the Microsoft Connect site or go back to using your old console for now.

Hopefully the dashboard will only be pushed out if your serial number matches.

TheBrit5707d ago

when you signed up they got your serial and console i.d - its all tied together.

they do that in case you have more than one xbox and decide to sign in on the 2nd one the day the update is due. it will only download to the one you registered.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai16d ago (Edited 16d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio15d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing15d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9215d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit15d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing15d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9215d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay17d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn218d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn217d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown18d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay17d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay17d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac17d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger18d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300018d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde18d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde17d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7519d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_17d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.