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How Square Enix Is Changing The Modern RPG

Changes in most RPGs tend to be minimal, particularly when you think about how closely most RPG fans will watch every little change in their series. But just like any genre over time, there have been some major changes since 'back in the day'. Square Enix is no stranger to changing times, and sticking around in the industry for so long comes with its own advantages.

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ShawnCollier5739d ago

Yeah, I am wishing that some of the other Japanese RPG developers would try rising up to SE's level.

mephman5739d ago

I think they have a happy medium too. Dragon Quest caters for one side of the market and Final Fantasy caters for the other. But they aren't afraid to experiment either with other franchises and new IPs.

Game-ur5739d ago

BioWere and Bethsaida and Atlus are the ones advancing the RPG genre, SE is suffering from lack of vision for some years.

Reibooi5739d ago

@Game-ur

While Bioware and Bethesda made great games it's kinda hard to say they are advancing anything.

Bioware games have basically been the same with better graphics since they found success with Baldur's Gate and very little has changed since then. Sure Mass Effect is a shooter RPG hybrid but at it's core it's just a science fiction version of Baldur's Gate.

Likewise Bethsda is know for the Elder Scrolls which as largly been the same since Daggerfall with the only thing changing being the graphics.

Compare that to SE where every single game had a completely different story and combat system and it's easy to see that SE is trying to advance the genre more then most out there.

Game-ur5739d ago

FF games only changed mechanics, they didn’t evolve and expand the experience, SE peaked at Chrono Trigger and FF6, and then the games advanced only in graphics and regressed in gameplay. Their were some exceptions like Vagrant Story, but very few. Before the merger there was always some fresh new RPG between FF games like Parasite Eve, Vagrant Story, Xenugears, FF tactics. But now they hardly pay attention to anything other than FF DQ and KH, imagine what a classic game Nier would have been if they produced it better.

In the other hand you have to credit BioWere for setting the benchmark in character interaction, and Bethesda for the amount of freedom and effect you have in the world, and also the random events that make the world fell alive.

Also Atlus have produced different kinds of RPGs while keeping the same magic system, Persona4&5 are fresh RPGs, and Devil Survivor on the DS is even better.

bakasora5739d ago

Too late, my love and respect for Squareenix is gone.

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Kain815739d ago

Yeah, I am wishing that some of the other Japanese RPG developers would try rising up to SQUARESOFT's level.

FIXED

Sanrin5739d ago

It'd be nice if they could do so, without outright copying them though.

Eamon5739d ago

completely agree.

Bring back command prompted ATB battles!! >.<

Game-ur5739d ago (Edited 5739d ago )

Imagine what Persona5 would look like running on the Catherin game engine, and Level 5 are making a great beautiful looking game in Ni Nu Kuni. And the new Tales game for the PS3 is taking the series to a new graphical level.

And don’t forget this generation already bright great JRPGs like Lost Odyssey, Tales of Vesperia and Valkuria Chronicles, so JRPG lovers don’t need to hang their hopes on SE anymore.

evrfighter5739d ago

have you tried ff14 beta?

I swear it's just like playing a f2p korean mmo

mittwaffen5739d ago

Enix make bad games, and this MMO shows they bit off Way more than they can chew.

Sarevok5739d ago (Edited 5739d ago )

@Game-ur
Persona 5? when did that come out? O___o;

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Nate-Dog5739d ago (Edited 5739d ago )

I don't think using Lightning as an example of character development was a great choice. She just pouted and moaned for a lot of XIII at, well everyone, and then towards the end was a bit nicer. We didn't get much info on her backstory and she didn't develop much in the title. Unfortunately too, she was probably the best character in XIII, which shows the low standard it's characters set.

Don't get me wrong, I liked her but she wasn't anything special nor a character I would remember.

Also I agree about SE trying ti cater to different times and audiences when they notice a change, although as pointed out, XIII didn't work out for them. Let's hope Versus will be a better turnout and will return to what was good about the earlier games of the series. I hope this "darker tone" does turn out to be just that.

mephman5739d ago

True, Lightning isn't the best example. However, Kainé is a fantastic example.

zatrox5739d ago

What's funny is that Cavia did something with NieR SE failed at with FFXIII, a great story with great characters.

Nate-Dog5739d ago

I haven't played FFIV (is that the one with Kainé...?) but have heard a fair bit about Kainé though.

zatrox5739d ago

Naw, Kainé's from Nier.

Game-ur5739d ago

Why don’t people talk about FF6? I'm I too old? A shame it doesn't get rereleased, it had the best set of characters in FF games, and their wasn't a main character, everyone had a spotlight.

Aleusia5738d ago

We heard you the first time. You said FF peaked at 6. You like 6 alot, we get it. Nobody cares.

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TotalPS3Fanboy5739d ago

Lighting and Hope. Worst character development ever. Square Enix needs to understand that whining for 40 hours straight isn't character development.

darthdevidem015739d ago (Edited 5739d ago )

This "whining"....what is it?

I've seen more whining about things from people like you than any whining from characters itself.

I'd be whiny if my mother died and I got turned into a time bomb who had to destroy his own world. Oh I'd whine A LOT.

The characters need to be realistic.....if they didn't whine, that would be very unrealistic. And Hope stopped whining in Chapter 7.....15 hours into the game.

Lightning never whined, just got angry.

Its so simple to disregard characters by saying, "oh they whinedz, they suckz"....offer constructive criticism.

Tell me what is Character Development then.....

And if you think FF13 character is the "worst" I don't think you have played very many games.

Eamon5739d ago

darth, it is the worst in the series.

I don't think you've played many FF games. FIXED.

The level of angst in some characters in FF13 is beyond astronomical. Not to mention, we have to put up with it constantly during the first 13 hours.

The only decent character in FF13 was Sazh.

Homicide5739d ago (Edited 5739d ago )

Exactly Darth!

****FFXIII SPOILER***

Hope's mom died, and Hope thought Snow was the cause of it. Throughout the game, Hope wasn't really whiny - I mean not whiny as in Tidus whiny. He was angry at himself and Snow, and he had a good reason for it. He didn't have the courage to confront Snow about his mom's death, so he hated himself for being able to tell Snow about it. Finally, he had the opportunity to confront Snow about his mom's death when Snow was in a similar situation. Also, he matured and gain confidence when he spent time with Lightning.

That my friend's, is a good character with great character development. He went from a scared, lonely kid to a strong, brave, independent child. Much better than emo Cloud and Squall's character development.

***END SPOILERS***

Lightning was angry at herself for not believing Sera, and that was the only scene where it shows she was angry. She was not whiny.

TotalPS3Fanboy5739d ago (Edited 5739d ago )

How can you guys say Squall and Cloud are emos? Those guys are some of the most badass mofos in video game history.

Hope, on the other hand, is such an emo, whining until Chapter 7. Squall and Cloud are nothing like Hope. Cloud is an arrogant guy who lies and brags. Squall, he just doesn't say much. But they're both still pretty badass.

Seriously, when you really look back at FF13, half the time, they're just walking around whining.

Sazh was actually the only character with great character development in FF13.

SE chose to developed Hope in an annoying way. It could have been done better. Less whinning.

oldjadedgamer5739d ago

You expect Hope to act like Squall/Cloud? A little unrealistic considering he is between 10 - 13 years old. Not a soldier. It's reaching, but any of us would whine a shit load more than Hope.

Eamon5739d ago

Actually Cloud's 'real' personality is that of an emo. Look at him in Crisis Core and Advent Children.

But for the majority of FF7, when he's under the "fake personality", he's pretty cool.

Homicide5739d ago

Cloud was acting as someone else, or Zack I should say, for the entire game. In actuality, he was this inexperienced, low-ranked soldier.

As for Squall, he was a whiny loner throughout his entire life. In FFVIII's plot twist, we found out Squall was a loner in the orphanage and cried a lot because of it. Now grown up, he's still a loner and rarely talks or interacts with others.

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gamingisnotacrime5739d ago (Edited 5739d ago )

is it worth buying? amazon has it for $20
At that price, it might be tough to ignore

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Already Have it!!
VC is such a pretty game

kratos1235739d ago

Listen to this guy vc is just too great to pass on after playing ff 13 fore 20 hours I went back to vc and started to play it fore a second time ff 13 isn't any fun just too boring fore my Damn and ff was my moat beloved rpg ever hopefully vc can take that spot now

SprSynJn5739d ago

For $20 it is a great deal. I wouldn't advise it for the full price though. And if I can offer some advice if you do plan on getting it, do not think of it as a Final Fantasy game. If you do, it might ruin the experience.

R4202475739d ago

lol no world to discover, no personalized characters names or jobs, its not very immersive as a real world FF13 is just a grindfest action game with nice graphics and cute girls, a poor rpg by most standards.

CountDracula5739d ago (Edited 5739d ago )

Well yeah after repeating the same mechanics for the last countless games, you would expect them to eventually change things up a bit.

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Metacritic's 2026 Game Publisher Rankings

Jason Dietz: "We reveal the past year's best and worst video game publishers (based on their 2025 releases) in the 16th edition of our annual Game Publisher Rankings."

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Christopher66d ago

Take note, Sony, you're falling behind by a lot.

-Foxtrot66d ago (Edited 66d ago )

I was just going to say this, their biggest and top rated game here is TLOU2 for PC….it’s embarrassing.

Even Ubisoft and EA are ahead

Kind of surprised Nintendo is pretty low aswell, their biggest game is also a rerelease with the Switch 2 version of TotK.

StoneColdCrazy66d ago

That’s what happens when you start shutting down your own studios and forget what actually made you matter in the industry in the first place. Sony used to set the standard — now it feels like they’ve lost that identity. And if they decide to walk away from the PC market too, that’s going to be another huge mistake — that platform is only growing, and ignoring it now would just put them even further behind.

1Victor66d ago

@christopher:” Take note, Sony, you're falling behind by a lot.”
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Why single out Sony? Microsoft didn’t do any better than the year before 5th same as Sony 9th and they have acquired activision and other mayor titles that have boosted their score massively from a 9th and Sony a 4th the year before the acquisitions.
Sony does need to do better without a doubt and I do hope they do take note but not the note of buying publishers is the way to succeed.

Christopher66d ago

1. Microsoft didn't get worse.
2. Sony got way worse.
3. Because Sony needs the criticism the most considering their publishing output this generation has been propped up by last gen ports and third-party developers for the most part.

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thesoftware73066d ago

1Victor,

I don't wanna speak for Christopher, but like most of us we recognize that Sony's output this Gen has been way below their own standards.

Also Sony did buy a fair amount of Devs, I know you will say they were not publishers, and don't compare in size, but they had their fair share of Aquisitions, including the very well established Bungie.

The overall point is with their stellar first party track record of the past, they should not be going down, they are singled out because they are some of the best videogame devs/publisher on the planet...no matter what reasons we attribute to the situation, they are moving in the wrong direction... period.

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KyRo65d ago

Its widely accept that Sony this generation has been underwhelming. We've had more peripheral releases, controller variants, PS5 accessories than games it feels like. The exclusives were also PS4 and what little output they have put exclusively on PS5 is nowhere near as memorable as what came in every generation before that.

This isn't a Sony hate post but anyone who's older and has been around for a long time gaming will agree that PS5 is by far Sony's worst generation. As much as Xbox is in the gutter, I pray the do bounce back in the hope we get Sony to wake up again.

darthv7265d ago (Edited 65d ago )

If you want to critique MS... you are doing so towards their management. The games output and their hardware have been much better than PS this gen. Sadly... people still hold a grudge against XB because of MS. Thankfully i am not that petty... I've been enjoying their games output in the drought of PS. And add in some NS1/2 games as well to balance things out. Things will change for me once Wolverine hits, and I start using my 5 more. That one I'm looking forward to. And the Marvel fighter... I'm not a GTA player so that has no bearing on my view of things.

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Profchaos66d ago

Big part of that has been the live service push resulting in cancellation or flop after flop but when they put out the games their fans want we get amazing stuff like astro bot

Leadership really screwed the pooch trend chasing

1Victor66d ago (Edited 66d ago )

https://www.metacritic.com/...

https://www.metacritic.com/...
Well I apologize I was wrong about not doing worse but my statement of Microsoft getting a boost still stand 🤷🏿

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1Victor66d ago

Well OBSCURED unlike you I’m honorable enough to recognize when I’m wrong and apologize.
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@ The software you know there’s no comparison between what Microsoft acquired and what Sony acquired that’s why you tried to get ahead of the conversation, yes we all know Sony can do better than what they have done this gen but they inhaled the poison GAS they thought would bring money for years but we make sure they got the message and quite a few games got cancelled you know as well a hit like that take years to be corrected and by now they hopefully will have taken steps away from the GAS and slowed their approach to them.

bsingle4066d ago

You will say anything when you are in denial that your hardware is dead and nobody wants your platform. Good luck with Helix because nobody will buy it.

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SimulationDaily66d ago

But... but... the garbage-mongers always tell us that Square Enix is in trouble! 😂

Christopher66d ago

Square doesn't help that it fear mongers itself with ridiculous 'goals' that they can't reach and then they proclaim failure if they don't reach it. They're quite freaking profitable and people act like they're dying.

SimulationDaily66d ago (Edited 66d ago )

Keep in mind that these "proclamations" are usually third-hand bad translations from somedude who was at the investor conference, posted on Twitter, and picked up by press and youtubers like they were gold, and then when the official translation comes out, they're much softer statements, but at that point, the damage is done.

gold_drake66d ago

to be very fair

being number one on these things does not indicate how "well" their games do selling wise.

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Square Enix Reports Lower Sales but Growing Profits in Financial Results

Square Enix announced its financial results for the first nine months of the fiscal year, related to the period between April and December 2025.

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Shareholder denounces Square Enix's 'sluggish' revenue and profit

3D Investment Partners, a major shareholder of Square Enix, issued a 112-page presentation criticizing the company's 'sluggish' revenue and profit margins.

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SimpleDad171d ago

Basically, their presentation says: Go Woke, Go broke.
Sorry fellow N4gamers.

Alos88171d ago

Or, alternatively, don't cut Switch and Steam out of your biggest releases day one.

360ICE170d ago

If your response to a 112 page presentation from a profit-maximizing investment fund about the need for corporate restructuring (i.e. layoffs), integrating non-gaming (i.e. sell merch or build a theme park) and other corporate initiatives, is that it's about "go woke, go broke", then it's because you've lost the ability to think in any terms. Awful way to live your life. Private equity is destroying the games industry while you obsess that Square made a cringe game everyone thinks is cringe in 2023. Time to move on.

gold_drake171d ago

i mean .. we've been saying this for years.

franwex171d ago

Oh darn. Maybe games with NFTs can fixed that!

Soy171d ago

Waaah waaah our profits aren't big enough! I mean, they're still growing and all, but we want it faster and NOW! Waaaah!

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