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Sony: We can't compete with Xbox's spending

Sony has cheekily admitted that it will never be able - or perhaps have the inclination - to spend the same amount on pushing PlayStation as Microsoft does on Xbox.

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Stealth Disagreer5745d ago

Its hard to spend what you dont make

GreenRingOfLife5745d ago ShowReplies(23)
Babypuncher5745d ago

is that why you don't have a PS3???

Dragun6195745d ago

@Stealth

Yeah, It's sorta hard to spend when you have 21 studios all trying to make AAA titles while trying to push 3D and PS Move all at the same time.

Sarcasm5745d ago

lol @greenringoflife supposedly owning a PS3.

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shoddy5745d ago

do you think it's cheap to own 21 studio?
what they are saying is they don't spend that much on ads.

thier resource are spend on quality content.

tinybigman5745d ago

I don't need Sony spending millions on marketing when they can put it towards 2-3 quality titles or some quality studios.

I don't play advertising, I play quality games this is something M$ needs to look into going forward into the future. Because I'm not going to be playing the same 3 exclusives over and over and over.

Smart knowledgeable gamers don't need adverts to know what games are coming in the future becuase we are always looking for game info.

alb18995745d ago (Edited 5745d ago )

wait, you just can't compare does two .....money talking...........remember sony is a company with a lot of owners to make decisions and Microsoft is Bill Gates the richest man on earth.

pippoppow5745d ago (Edited 5745d ago )

Sony spends the money their fans give them on games. MS spends it on marketing, apps and features. As a gamer which one benefits you more?

MAR-TYR-DOM5745d ago

HAHAHA "I'm pretty sure Sony is rich enough to do what ever MS can do." Thats DEFINATELY NOT the case, sony is like one fifth the size of microsoft in terms on Company Value my reference is forbes company values (go have a look before you disagree with a Fact). But who cares really, sony gives us GAMERS great GAMES and offers a BETTER GAMING experience than its competition and that's all we should care about.

dillydadally5745d ago

I think it's smart they only spend on quality content. Spending money on advertising big games is an absolute waste of money. I think the millions MS spends on advertising is going to make them hardly anything at all because the videogame industry doesn't work like that - people don't learn about games or choose to look into them off of advertising like other industries - it's all previews, reviews, word of mouth, etc. Maybe if you have a new IP or a small unheard of game, it would be worth it. Has an ad ever convinced anyone here to buy or look into a game that wasn't an unknown?

Anarki5745d ago

Spot on! This couldn't be more right.

Microsoft are all about advertising
Sony are all about great content.

TheTwelve5745d ago

Sony doesn't need to spend like Microsoft does. If Microsoft doesn't spend this way, they'd have less of a chance than they already have. They're attempting to buy the value of the SONY namebrand and that's priceless.

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timmyrulz5745d ago

Basically Sony put all of their eggs in one basket by introducing Blu ray and the Cell - They expected to cream the competition again but strong opposition from Nintendo and MS have basically shit on their bonnett

wicko5745d ago

Way to stay on topic and instead find an opportunity to troll.

tinybigman5745d ago

I'm glad they did instead of resting on their laurels.

timmyrulz5745d ago (Edited 5745d ago )

How the hell is that trolling??????

The article is about Sony not been able to compete with MS when it comes to cash, my reponse was its down to them spending all of their money made from the PS2 on blu ray and the cell and they were expecting to rake it all back with sales of the ps3, however it didnt work so thats why they cant compete!

Oh sorry i forgot, anything negative against Sony is considered as trolling

raztad5745d ago (Edited 5745d ago )

"Basically Sony put all of their eggs in one basket by introducing Blu ray and the Cel"

Yet I'm enjoying watching full HD movies and playing exclusives that raise the bar in each iteration. On top of that 3D for free and high quality 7.1 sound. It seems like PS3 owners win. Hope you are a MS stockholder.

GrooveChampion5745d ago

I think it's considered trolling because it's pretty obvious that PS3 has tech that is at least less outdated than Wii or 360. It doesn't magically make games better, but it's clear that at least first party devs are making use of the features. Sony may have gone all in with Blu-ray and Cell, but it's paid off in terms of the games we play.

On a side note, the last 12 months or so has seen a rise in the belief that N4G is a pro-sony site. 3 years ago it could be argued it was a pro-microsoft site as there were a ton of 360 articles for various games. Well, I don't know if this site actually leans either way, or ever did, as it's a news aggregation site, so when there is news, chances are someone will submit it.

Frankly, MS has had Kinect, Kinect games, Halo and Gears 3 to crow about for the past year. Last year was pretty light too and next year is looking even lighter at the moment due to no Halo being announced yet. When MS puts out the games, N4G will be brimming with 360 news again.

So when Sony has 5 or 6 high profile titles per year, and another 5 or 6 low profile titles on PSN or whatever, don't be so surprised if they get coverage on N4G. When MS does the same, they will be treated the same.

If you like, you can go ahead and name 10 titles that are coming exclusive to 360 that deserve more news time, and then submit news stories about those titles. That should give us all something to chat about.

Narutone665745d ago

It should be MS put all their efforts into the shooter genre, hence their console is only well-known as a shooter console. That's putting all your egg into one basket.

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bjornbear5745d ago (Edited 5745d ago )

he only speaks about marketing. And its true, I mean, look MS = Marketingstrategy/Microsoft, same difference xD

MS probably does marketing better than anything else they do...so yeah

I rather Sony spend all that cash on good games_/ good console

marketing means sh!t if your product isn't up to par (in the long run, short run Marketing is king)

CBaoth5745d ago

word of mouth can only sell so much. Sony's studios make some fantastic games. But I consistently get PM'ed by friends on the PS3 asking me what I'm playing. Some have never heard of it. Infamous springs to mind.

And yes, I'd rather have games instead of marketing. But the games alone don't garner sales. Consumer awareness plays a part too. Frankly, Sony doesn't have the money since they allocate their resources to game development. This is the double-edge of the sword Sony swings. I utilize the internet, I read the gaming mags; unfortunately, not every gamer does.

ndibu5745d ago

The investors cannot afford to lose anymore money into that blackhole so they decided to go with word of mouth...chuckles
Here Come The Death Threats.
Pretty lonely at the bottom huh? Of course not, ps3 has psp to keep it company

milohighclub5745d ago

sony are making profit now so they lost nothing. personally i'd rather have good games to play, than a flashy ad on tv. ms seems to think gamers dont want to play games anymore.

mantisimo5745d ago

The option to edit comments if you only have 1 bubble.

The idea is to edit mistakes, not stealth edit or edit as a dozen more replys.

Green ring I'm a looking at you.

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TheGreenMan5745d ago

Is that why the Playstation brand has made $63 billion in revenue over it's lifespan?

...get a life troll.

gtamike5745d ago (Edited 5745d ago )

Better to use the money to make games than spam ads

tinybigman5745d ago (Edited 5745d ago )

most of us have been gaming since the atari days so we know our stuff, so here's a question.

does M$ think we don't know what halo is? They are going to spend in excess of $100 million for. Advertising on something we all know about already. Should they use that money on 1-2 new IPs, or a purchase of a quality studio.

If you don't know what halo is after 5 games in this series you are a bleeding idiot in my book.

The Lazy One5745d ago

M$ doesn't market to you or me. We'll buy or not buy it regardless of the marketing because we are informed consumers. They market to the other 6.19999 billion people on the planet.

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dabri55745d ago

While Sony may not spend as much as Microsoft, I do think they spend their money on wiser investments. Sony was not known for their first party titles during teh PS and PS2 erra. They were the console to go to because they had so much love from all the 3rd party companies. Lots of exclusives too. Now they have invested in lots of first party material and the stuff coming from them is AAA material. Seems like a better investment to me considering they still get the amount of 3rd party support that they do.

Sarick5745d ago

Microsoft live subscribers help pay for advertising. Sony gives the users online free with optional services. See the difference?

Of course they can invest on advertisements when they subsidize earnings from mandatory online subscriptions to play online games. Other consoles offer online play at little to nothing.

KiLLUMiNATi_895745d ago

See if you think about it, there's no way in hell all them developers that Sony has aren't paid undercover. I'm sure all them developers such as naughty dog and guerllia games wouldn't mine going multiplatform. IDC what any one says Sony spends money too undcover not just MS. Or unless them developers are faithful to Sony, but I'm telling you money talks.

sashimi5745d ago (Edited 5745d ago )

It's easy to spend when you only have 2 games coming out a year as vs Sony's 41534563(exaggeration i know but you get the point)games per year.Then theres the 26 studios that Sony has to support...how many does Microsoft have again...?

frostypants5745d ago

Why should Sony need to spend as much as MS? The PS3 is selling faster than the 360 at a fraction of the marketing expenditure. Sony is playing this game better.

Anon19745745d ago

I didn't see that anywhere.

I hate when articles splash up a headline that isn't actually supported by the article.

mrcash5745d ago

I don't think it has to do with what they don't make, I think its more about them already taking a huge loss on the ps3 and its time to invest their money wisely.

The Xbox Empire5745d ago

"Its hard to spend what you dont make"

hhahahahahahahahhaaaaa!!!!!

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United4Life5745d ago (Edited 5745d ago )

No shit Sony would Lose.But that Doesn"t Concern me , As long as they Give out Quality hardware and software like the Ps3 and it"s games , the PS3 will always be my Premier gaming Platform.

4pocalyps35745d ago

Microsoft aren't the richest company in the world. Also, why do you put random capital letters in the middle of your sentences?

ExplosionSauce5744d ago

I think Sony spends more money in studios and games rather than marketing/advertising.

AngryTypingGuy5744d ago

"Also, why do you put random capital letters in the middle of your sentences?"

LOL.

Digitaldude5744d ago

That may be so but they aren't using their money wisely then, Xbox exclusives in the upcoming year pale in quantity to Playstaions.

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commodore645744d ago (Edited 5744d ago )

Of course they can't.

They are already in the red to the tune of $5 billion, thanks to the ps3.
Any money that they were going to spend on the ps3 has already been used in subsidising the sale of the Ps3 hardware in the last four years.

Not trolling, just pointing out the truth.

AngryTypingGuy5744d ago (Edited 5744d ago )

Hasn't the 360 been making a profit for a while now. I think the PS3 just started making a profit only a few months ago. Commodore, where do you get your information?

Also, why is MS demonized for advertising? It's what companies do. Good advertising helped MS to outsell the PS3 in the largest video game market, North America. Now if only MS would buy a game studio or two. I think that would be best, but then again, with MS's money, they'll always be able to secure exclusives.

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Oldsnake0075745d ago

lmao dude even apple has more money than Microsoft.

97gsx5745d ago

NO apple does not have more money then ms. NO NO NO.Microsoft kills apple in profits and profit margins. You are thinking revenue which apple only beat ms one or two quarters. Revenue means nothing really.

aviator1895745d ago

Wow, you're...misinformed.

coolbeans5745d ago

Look up these things before typing them. MS isn't the biggest company in the world either

mrdxpr25745d ago

the biggest company in the world is the goverment o.O .. yes well they are a mafia but hey so is the Vatican

Trebius5744d ago

Do some research before typing silly things like that.

PopEmUp5744d ago

what can you say from an Old Snake, he living in the past haha

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97gsx5745d ago

Microsoft has no plan to recuperate the 8 billion and counting they have lost on xbox brand. The whole point of the xbox was to get the microsft name into your tvs not just your computers. The xbox was a trojan horse and now we will see microsoft abandon the hardcore gamers and invest everything into natal. Natal is exactly what MS wanted a device to control the home using MS SOFTWARE.

Sony did the same with blu-ray but they have no intentions on screwing the hardcore gamers.Since its becoming profitable for them again.

Independent_Charles5745d ago

the whole point of the xbox is to stop the dominationof apple and co. getting a gripe on your liveing room. they might take losses but in the bigger picture its capable losses.

frostypants5745d ago

Gawd, could you imagine if Apple took over the home console market? *vomit*

Independent_Charles5745d ago

thinks about your comment* then has nightmares

Theonik5745d ago

They tried to do that. Apple pippin ring any bells?
No?
Well..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

theafroman5744d ago

you're so wrong ms wont abandon the hardcore they broadening their appeal and thanks to live they'll make back those 8 billion back quick last year they made over 670 mill on subscribers alone

97gsx5744d ago (Edited 5744d ago )

The live subscription offsets the loses.Profit for last year for the whole division was around that much. The whole reason live is going up is because they need to make that money back double or investors will start selling. Also natal is gonna be a huge loss for the company many investors think it will cost 1 billion for them to release it. Microsoft has also increased costs to release on xbox live thats why developers are starting to get peeved.

dcbronco5744d ago

Sony had a separate games division until recently. MS has always included Xbox in a division with several other products. Most of which make no profit. Some are things like advertising for operating systems that run into the 100's of million a year while the profits 10's of billions in revenue from those products goes to another division. The 360 was sold at a lose in the beginning, they lose on RRoD. But the 360 started being sold at a profit around two years ago. So even in the third year when the division showed a loss, Xbox itself made money. Microsoft keeps Xbox in with a bunch of other products so they can keep the $299 price tag while making money on the console and no one complains. Do you really think Microsoft can't drop the manufacturing cost of the 360 over the last five years while Sony was able bring their cost down over $450.Microsoft has added several inexpensive parts(wi-fi), but shrunk the main chips two sizes and have now combined them. The GPU and CPU were the most expensive pieces of the console and die shrinks are where you get your major savings. Microsoft is making plenty from the 360.

PopEmUp5744d ago

theafroman fail in so many level, what a brainwash moronic M$ fanboy

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OSIRUSSS5745d ago

Exxon is the richest company in the world.

frostypants5745d ago (Edited 5745d ago )

Nah, J.P. Morgan Chase is.

The Lazy One5745d ago

actually it's walmart this year. Check the fortune 500 listings for 2010.

ABizzel15745d ago (Edited 5745d ago )

People don't realizes this, but Sony is also one of the richest companies in the world. They never make Forbes list, because they are not a unified company. Each part of Sony is ran as it's own business.

Sony Computer Entertainment aka PS3
Sony Music aka the biggest Record Label in US possibly the World (since BMG merger)
Sony Pictures aka Sony's movie, television, and mobile entertainment studio.
Sony Ericsson aka Sony phones
Sony Electronics aka TV's, Blu Ray players, laptops, etc...
Sony Financial aka Sony Life Insurance, banking, etc...
Sony Corp. aka the business side of Sony

Sony is a huge company, but until they become one company then they won't have the support to blow money like MS can and does.

SkyGamer5745d ago

Sony is unified. What are you talking about? Even Columbia Pictures has the "sony picture company" below it. Besides how many of those divisions are profitable? Also Universal says hi as they own more studios than most anyone else. sony bought Columbia from Coke and Columbia isn't even that big back then. General Electric which still owns majority shares of NBC/Universal which owns the majority shares of Blizzard/Activision sees sony like a speck on the ground.

ABizzel15744d ago (Edited 5744d ago )

Sony is not unified, if they were Howard (CEO) wouldn't have initiated a plan to bring all the companies together in order to save Sony billions.

Each company is under the name Sony, but they are not one unified business. They all run separately.

4me25744d ago (Edited 5744d ago )

I think ABizzel1 is right about structure of Sony.
The companies he listed are to some extend separate entities.

Sony Corporation is EQUITY HOLDER for all of them.

For example when you watch TV show you see "Sony Pictures" (or something like that) and not just "Sony Corporation".

I think this is more complete list:

THE SONY GROUP COMPRISES:

Sony EMCS Corporation
Frontage Inc.
Sony Global Solutions Inc.
Sony Enterprise Co.,Ltd.
Sony Chemicals Corporation
Sony Communication Network Corporation
Sony Computer Entertainment Inc.
Sony Supply Chain Solutions,Inc.
Sony Siroisi Semiconductor Inc.
Sony Life Insurance Co,. Ltd.
Sony Semiconductor Kyushu Corporation
Sony Assurance Inc.
Sony Tochigi Corporation
Sony Pictures Entertainment (Japan) Inc.
---Columbia Pictures
---TriStar Pictures
---Mandalay Entertainment (partial interest)
---Phoenix Pictures (partial interest)
---Sony Pictures Classics
---Sony Pictures Entertainment
---Columbia-Tri Star Home Video
---Triumph Films
---Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer
---United Artists
---Screen Gems
Sony PCL Inc.
Sony Human Capital Corporation
Sony Finance International, Inc.
Sony Facility Management Corporation
Sony Fukushima Corporation
Sony Plaza Co.,Ltd.
Sony Precision Technology Inc.
Sony Broadcast Media Co., Ltd
Sony Broadband Solutions Corp.
Sony Marketing Co., Ltd.
Sony Manufacturing Systems Corporation
Sony Miyagi Corporation
Sony Music Entertainment (Japan) Inc.
---Sony/ATV Music Publishing
---Sony BMG Music Entertainment
---Columbia Records - popular music
---Epic Records - popular music
---Legacy Recordings - rare and collectible in many genres
---Sony Classical - classical music
---Sony Nashville - country music
---Sony Wonder - children’s and family entertainment

lonix5744d ago

Sony network entertainment (SNE)

ABizzel15744d ago (Edited 5744d ago )

@4me2

You are almost 100% correct.

Except a lot of those companies on your list are no longer there, they've merged into one of the Sony named companies.

skottey5744d ago

Sony doesn't make the Forbes 500 list because they are not a US company, not because they are not "united." The Forbes list being talked about is the top 500 US companies. That is what they are talking about when you hear Fortune 500. duh!

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Lifendz5745d ago

I said that a few weeks ago. We all know MS has more money than almost every company in the world. MS spending alone will keep Kinect from being the next Virtual Boy. Thing is, if Move is done right Sony won't have to out spend MS. Think about how many Wii commercials you saw. A few but it wasn't over done or anything. Word of mouth and a good spot or two on Good Morning America and Oprah are all that's needed. Unfortunately for Sony I gotta think MS is going to use both of those venues as well as excessive advertising. It'll be interesting to see which of the two (Kinect and Move) will be more successful.

andremasonbaba5745d ago

spending all that money to advertise a "so called good system(359)"...smells fishy

avengers19785745d ago

So what if they spend more money...They got it they can spend it.

Trebius5744d ago

M$ ONLY has Halo, and Gears maybe, but MOSTLY just Halo.

So they have to throw millions and millions into ads for it because it's their flagship title. It's THE Xbox brand's mascot, Halo.

SONY on the other hand has so many 1st party games that are good, that it doesnt NEED to spend millions and millions on advertising just 1 title, there are far too many exclusive games, so pushing just 1 would not make sense.

Uncharted 2 was an incredible game, and it wasnt heavily advertised, because it doesnt need to be.

Let M$ spend 100mil on advertising and putting images on bubble gum and mountain dew cans, that's their style, they want every child in the world to know and love halo, which is why there's so much fanaticism when it comes to Halo. Cause a lot of kids began their gaming experiences with that title.

Imperator5744d ago

Yea well I could care less about MS spending all that money on ads just to play the sales game. I'd rather Sony continue pumping out AAA, GOTY PS3 exclusives year after year like they've been doing for the past 2 years.

Anorexorcist5744d ago (Edited 5744d ago )

Advertising campaigns/Promotion costs are not what makes Hardcore gamers happy, it is the quality hardware, software, online offerings, and future potential that make hardcore gamers content with what gaming console manufacturer's console they choose to invest in and support.

Since the PSOne days, Playstation has always delivered in qualitative, quantitive software. Why would any real hardcore gamer have any resentment toward's Sony and it's console???

Hallmark Moment5744d ago

Sony's way of admitting defeat blaming the 360's success on marketing alone LOL

rareairtone5744d ago

How much of a feat the Playstation Brand is.

Quality over purchasing power.

RussDeBuss5744d ago

does the 360 being into profit include the $3billion RROD bill?

typical microsoft, overspend on advertising to convince their product is better than it actually is.
not just in gaming. I heard their budget for advertising windows mobile 7, or whatever its called, is into many $billions, shame the product is going to suck compared to android and iphone

KrazyFace5738d ago

Is your CapsLock BuTton BRoken?

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TLG19915745d ago

money isn't everything :D look who is overtaking (just saying)

CrazyForGames5745d ago (Edited 5745d ago )

*looks at the wii*

k what am i supposed to be looking at?

GarandShooter5745d ago

A dictionary, for the definition of overtaking. How the hell does Nintendo overtake a competitor from first place?

sashimi5745d ago

You fail at english sir. why don't you keep a dictionary around at all times to prevent self facepalm.

Senden5745d ago

And that's precisely why sony will never have a game like halo. I'd love for nothing more than for sony to crush microsoft out of the console race but in all fairness, it's never going to happen unless they seriously invest in their top games.

retrofly5745d ago

Why, the fact they are competing against eachother means the gamers are the ones who benifit.

Without out one there will be les drive to "be the best" as theres no competition.

mrmikew20185745d ago

Excellent point bro, but your statement is falling on death ears (sad to say) because the fans on N4G are full of a bunch fools sometimes. This is the healthiest the industry has ever been in while. The more Sony and MS "duke it out" the better games we will see in the future.

Heisenberg5745d ago

Don't mea to be a dick, but for future reference: it's "falling on DEAF ears" not "death ears".

BannedForNineYears5745d ago

Ahem, for the record, Senden.
PS3 owners will possibly be getting a game like Halo.
Bungie will be developing multi-platform games after Reach.
:P

Raz5745d ago

It's "mean" not "mea", Mr. Spellcheck. Unless you're trying to say "mea culpa". Oh, and you might want to include a personal pronoun at the beginning of your sentence, if you want to abide by proper grammar. ;)

On topic: *nobody* can compete with M$ advertising dollars. Except possibly politicians taking a run at the Oval Office. Which says to me they're all talk. Maybe if some of that cash went toward improving XBL or their core hardware issues...

PopEmUp5744d ago

thank for the input MR. Gramm@r Polic3, now STFU

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ravinash5745d ago

Why would you want to make a game like halo? We have halo for that!
I'd rather they make new unique games.

TotalPS3Fanboy5745d ago (Edited 5745d ago )

That is profound.

That's deep, man. That's deep.

Sarick5745d ago (Edited 5745d ago )

So Uncharted, Little Big planet and Killzone aren't being invested in?

Uncharted 2, highest ratings and a game so good it even helped media move away from "The PS3 is doomed" attitude.

Little big planet, so good that Sony purchased Media Molicule.

Killzone 2, when it first launched it set a new level for what console FPS was judged by.

IMHO, because Sony invested heavily in these games development they raised the curve for the quality of games in this generation. Sony markets games through word of mouth over placing advertisements everywhere. If this means using those extra dollars in development over marketing good for them.

The Lazy One5745d ago

he means investing in the existing product. Having an amazing product does not equal amazing sales. I wouldn't have even known God of War launched if I didn't come to N4G.

I'm sure sony would more than make up the cost if they actually advertised their games like M$ does.

Dacapn5745d ago

Which brings us to the point of this article. Microsoft will spend as much on advertising as Sony will in developing a game.

heyheyhey5744d ago

"And that's precisely why sony will never have a game like halo."

Gran Turismo will always be bigger than Halo, hell GT Prologue sold over 4 million copies, and that is like 5% of what GT5 is going to be

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Prcko5745d ago

Sony saving money for more important stuff,EXCLUSIVE GAMES!!!

WetN00dle695745d ago

That and the Multi-Billion Dollar debt............JUST kidding.......dont kill me!

meluvulongtime5744d ago

Sony's model is much more beneficial to me as a gamer. What would I rather have? A bunch of high quality exclusive games or see a whole lot of ads trying to push a couple exclusive titles? Hmm such a tough decision /s

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai34d ago (Edited 34d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio34d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing34d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9234d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit34d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing34d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9234d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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(For Southeast Asia) New Price Changes for PS5, PS5 Pro, and PlayStation Portal remote player

For Southeast Asia, new price changes.

Prices effective starting May 1st, 2026.

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BeHunted37d ago

Looks like PlayStation took a hit with Marathon and is now quietly adjusting prices worldwide to recover the losses

andy8536d ago

Lets be honest raising prices doesn't do that when no one's buying it. I imagine the profit it greater selling 10 times more at a lower price

Pergele36d ago

Whatever you say buddy, let's all wear the tinfoil hats.

IceKoldKilla36d ago (Edited 36d ago )

LMFAO Your comment alone says a lot more about you than anything else. When has one game not selling 10 million copies made a company raise the prices of their console? Then Xbox would be costing $5000 by now lol. You remind of the crazy drug addicts on the street rambling on about conspiracies. xD You sure you don't need a hug, buddy?

ChunkyMonk36d ago

One game that Sony payed $200 million for. lol
Also, you sure were quick to get triggered. Maybe your the one who needs a hug?

Eonjay36d ago

If nothing else, we should be united against the real issue here. AI and unnecessary tariffs that are effecting all gamers.

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Athlon10136d ago (Edited 36d ago )

The price increases are due to the RAM demand associated with AI and the US-Iran war. You can look to any business news website and local news to see that. Heck, even the 2026 Asus Zenbook Duo I've been eyeing has faced delays and has had a price increase of $400; that laptop has two specs. Asus is doing a staggered release with per-orders for the lower spec now and shipping in May and pre-orders for the higher spec that I'm eyeing starting in June. Basically, all computer manufactures are affected. It'll most likely start affecting smart phones too if it hasn't already. I can't remember the last time any major console maker (Nintendo, Sony, Sega, etc) increased the price of their console mid cycle outside of Microsoft just to make more profit.

S2Killinit36d ago

Its not the war. Its the RAM issue.

jznrpg36d ago

War is causing gas prices to rise. Transport of everything requires gas so the prices of those items go up as well. So it does have an impact

Athlon10135d ago (Edited 35d ago )

The blockage of the Straight of Hormuz due to the US-Iran war has affected raw components used in semi-conductor manufacturing such as bromine, aluminum, and helium. Iran had attacked the liquified natural gas (LNG) plant in Qatar which is a large producer (1/3 globally) of helium which is used in semiconductor etching. So it's the both the war and the RAM crises.

badz14936d ago

Oh no...should I get the Pro now before the price increase?

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay36d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn236d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers36d ago (Edited 36d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn236d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown36d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos36d ago (Edited 36d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay36d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay36d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac35d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger36d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300036d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde36d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood36d ago (Edited 36d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde36d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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