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In Depth Look at the Kinect Dashboard Update

@XG247: We had a chance to sit down with Robin Burrowes and a have a play around with the upcoming Kinect dashboard update heading towards Xbox’s sometime towards the release of Kinect on November 10th.

He showed us the new avatar marketplace, movies, how you can control everything from your couch and the new video chat feature which will become cross-platform with Windows Messenger on the PC in the new year. These aren’t all the features you can expect out of the update, we were informed that there will be more to be announced.

coolstuff5734d ago

This actually looks really good. If only the games were this good and Kinect wasn't so expensive.

BeaArthur5734d ago

Yeah if it had been $50 I might have actually been interested just because I think the tech has a lot of potential.

coolstuff5734d ago

Here in the UK it's £130, that's just way too much.

Super-Brad5734d ago

It looks good but they need to improve on the video service, I mean he moved the tiniest bit and it bring up the timer for the video.
Would get annoying and would go of crazy if there was more than one person.

gamingdroid5734d ago

Kinect tracks the person so the other won't mistakenly fast forward or rewind the movie.

Rybakov5734d ago

kinect is that expensive its 100 and coming with a 50 dollar game

tho i hope the dash-bored changes from the tech demo cause i personally don't like this dash i like the current one
.....and the espn feature is hideable cause i don't want that crap on my xbox

Blaze9295734d ago

Yeah the thing that has me the most excited about Kinect is not the games, it never was about the game, but rather the camera and it's tech with the new UI for the 360. Also being able to hook this up to the PC and seeing what clever uses people come up with.

Was never about the games for me, at least not yet. Only game that has me even remotely interested is Dance Central.

On a second note: @5:39...I thought Kinect didn't work while seated?

gamingdroid5734d ago

The next thing people will complain is you can't lay down while using Kinect and then after that, it won't see through walls or people!

Hades13375734d ago

The product hasn't been released yet, but people formulate their judgements based on old builds from E3, only to be left with egg on their faces when the find that Kinect can do all the things they thought it couldn't.

mcstorm5733d ago

I think Kinect is going to prove alot of people wrong when it comes out that video look really good and worked very well. I am getting Kinect when release in uk and for the person who said its £130 here in the uk shop around zavvi have it for £135 WITH 2 games which is a good price.

Im getting it for the media side and so the kids can play the games on it.

I think both sony and ms are on for a winner.

LoydX-mas5734d ago

Does this update happen if you don't have Kinect?

Thrungus5734d ago

Yeah you still get the update, just you can't access it without the Kinect Camera.

Highlife5734d ago

watching a movie might be a problem. Every time you reach for a drink or for popcorn the screen will bring up the hand and the buttons. Could be annoying. Cool concept but controller would be better.

uxo225734d ago

I usually reach forward when I reach for a drink. I typically don't put my hand up around my face prior to reaching for the table to get a snack.

Let's not over dramatize the whole thing.

Also, he said that he was using beta code, so I am sure some of the thing you guys are crying about will be tweaked.

Hades13375734d ago

He said you would need to wave your hand in the final version.

siyrobbo5734d ago

think you can still use the controller if im not mistaken, im sure he mentioned that in the video. you wave to activate kinect

looks pretty good, might be tempted to get it when the price drops significantly

and it works sitting down

Christopher5734d ago

Just don't see the point of using your hands to navigate compared to the much faster controller. I get the tech, but the tech is less efficient compared to what is already there. I don't see myself paying any amount of money for this when I already have a faster method to interact with the dashboard from the controller that comes with the 360.

If there were some true enhancements--because these aren't enhancements, just duplication of current abilities using motion controllers--I might see the point. Perhaps something like using both of your hands to move, resize, and control various elements.

The auto-zoom out/in capabilities for video chat is nice. Good software implementation there. Would like to see more features like that.

Baka-akaB5734d ago

apparently someone can yell xbox pause faster than you pressing a button .

At least i'd hope so given the cowardly disagrees .

uxo225734d ago (Edited 5734d ago )

When I'm snuggled up with my girl watching a movie, I would rather say "Xbox Pause", Xbox Play", etc rather than reaching over her head to pull my arm over, or whatever movement you'll need to reach for the remote on the table.

Or do you hold the remote in your hand throughout an entire movie.

Christopher5734d ago

***Or do you hold the remote in your hand throughout an entire movie.***

First of all, the video is all about motion controls, not voice controls.

Second, voice controls only increase the possibilities of accidentally performing actions. Now instead of just your motions being detected, you have to worry about your general talk being tracked.

Third, there's no way I'm going to pay $150 for a limited controller just so I can say 'fast forward' and 'pause' during a movie that doesn't do the same thing for all of my entertainment area as well as all the elements on the 360 (store, features, settings, etc.). No matter how you use the camera, you still need the controller to perform most of the actions on the 360. I'm not spending $150 on something that doesn't do everything I'd need it to do.

***I frequently misplace my remote, and I don't want my controller on the whole time draining my batteries.***

So, you're still going to need the remote control when you perform any other action with your TV. Remember, Kinect is just for some elements of your Xbox 360, not for your whole entertainment unit. TVs and similar devices would have to be built to recognize and integrate with the camera, none of which is happening.

***Or do you hold the remote in your hand throughout an entire movie. ***

No, but I keep it close at hand. And it also controls every element of my entertainment unit (360, PS3, Cable Box, sound system, TV) from a single device. It's really not that hard to just keep the controller on the back or arm of a couch when you're watching a movie or playing a game.

gamingdroid5734d ago

"So, you're still going to need the remote control when you perform any other action with your TV. Remember, Kinect is just for some elements of your Xbox 360, not for your whole entertainment unit. TVs and similar devices would have to be built to recognize and integrate with the camera, none of which is happening. "

You are right, but I turn the TV on and change it to the correct channel once. I might use the 360 to navigate the available content, fast forward, pause and such throughout the event.

It all comes down to preference, if you are fine with the remote then that really is fine. I like to do voice control, and motion instead of fumbling for the remote somewhere in the dark and look for the correct buttons, which might not apply to you.

Most of my entertainment needs comes beyond gaming comes from my Xbox 360. When it comes to gaming, Xbox 360 and PS3 provides that fix. Wii though, doesn't get used much unless I have a bunch of people over or I play with the family. In terms of fun gaming though, Wii is far the best. In terms of great entertainment though, the Xbox 360 and PS3 rules.

gamingdroid5734d ago

I frequently misplace my remote, and I don't want my controller on the whole time draining my batteries. I never have to look for my remote, nor do I have to worry about battery draining in any of the devices.

It might be slightly slower than a button assuming controller is within reach, but it sure as hell is more convenient for me as long as it isn't like annoying meaning I often trigger the wrong response.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai16d ago (Edited 16d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio16d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing16d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9216d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit16d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing16d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9216d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay18d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn218d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn218d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown18d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay18d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay18d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac17d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger18d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300018d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde18d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde18d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7519d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_17d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.