thats when i realized PS3 and 360 suck balls

the consoles are not maxed out..
of course they are gonna say this they are PC Ho's
Look at Reach, same engine, but it looks so much better than the last Halo.
KZ3 will look better than KZ2

what was the last PS3 game these dudes put out ?

Will make them eat their words so fast it will make their heads spin

I concur , Maybe there can be a bit more pushed but I think We've seen the best these machines can do for the most part . I'm ready for the next wave

Seems like we have......

consoles, but the power left is enough to allow devs to polish their games even more than they do now if what you expect is better AA, motion blur better effects etc) but if you are expecting more polygons, 8xAA and up and native 1080p resolutions with 60 FPS then thats a big NO NO

well you get what you pay for. maybe now there will be more inovation and less graphic competition. if its as good as it gets then focus on gameplay, plenty of room to continue inovating there, ya think. that to me is next gen. still yet to be seen

LOL says the people who wont even use MLAA for PS3

Maxed out is inevitable with consoles, but that is not a bad thing for many of us gamers. One of the reasons consoles have won over gamers that used to PC game (like myself) is the stable, predictable, and yes static unevolving hardware. As a consumer, I am not aligned to developers' desire to always want to challenge hardware to the point it needs to be upgraded to match the software's thirst. I know some like to geek out on the PC hardware/software arms race, but that really doesn't serve the average consumer like myself.

Don't take pc people all to serious, most want you to believe that they can run crysis at 1080p 60fps with 8xAA or better yet 16xAA with inexpensive hardware, but all you have to do is go to toms hardware and see their full of it. I don't know how an hd 5970 500-600 dollar card can't get 60 fps on crysis with only 4xAA 1080p. Poorly made game.

its been maxed out for a while but the games keep looking better and better

this makes a change. The unity in here is refreshing. The consensus seems to be that these pc devs do not know what they speak of fully in regards to console development. Of course time will tell if its a hardware or user error if you know what i mean

I have to agree, but honestly, fail to understand why.

They had millions and every company helping them, intel,ati,nvidia,amd, at that time crysis was being made.

I'm all for pushing hardware, but other then the trees and beach, buildings looked crap, It's not perfect by any stretch.

The only thing that hurts pc's on crysis is the sheer amount of trees/shadows etc.

I think maybe the better way of saying this is "current gen consoles internal RAM is maxed out". I think the 512MB of RAM limitation that both consoles have (they both do it differently but in the end...both have this issue)is the real culprit. I think the processors on both are more than fast enough to still do some fantastic things, but developers are now really getting handcuffed by what they can push through the pipes, etc....

when a game it looks great on a console its the developers doing,they learn new trick every day to upgrade their graphical engine,PS3 reached his limits too,360 was a long time ago,i don;t see on PS3 games too look better than Uncharted 2 or GOW3,as for Killzone 3,from what i saw till now from the videos looks the same as K2 only now it has stereoscopic 3D,

if kz3 fails to show us best consoles graphics then im agree with this article because theyve primissed us a big jump from kz2

These consoles are not maxxed out. There is plenty of tweaking and other optimizations that can be done.
If maxxed out means:

Higher use of Anti-Alaising
Higher Floating Point Precision for HDR
Higher Resolution
Advanced Depth of Field
Tessallation
Higher Polygon counts
60FPS
Higher detailed Texures throughout

Then yes...these consoles are maxxed out as the current console hardware cannot do those things...but games on consoles can still look amazing. KZ3, GEARS 3, GOD3 are proving this

Crytek just talk and talk and have they ever made a 'AAA' game yet?

Bullsh!t
KZ3 > Crysis 2, and they are refering to Crysis 2 graphics.

the yet to be released Ps3 AAA titles will prove the Ps3 still has some power left in it.

German twilight mind don't know about optimization, gameplay & good storyline. They born in jungle and there remain nowadays.

great, hopefully more games use this maxed out engine

its going like that.
crysis >killzone 3>rage>halo reach >> medal of honor >>> black ops>killzone ps2.LOL!

Consoles dont have hidden power..

The thing most people don't understand is the CryEngine renders everything in realtime

If Crytek say PS3 and 360 is maxed out I would say I believe them
If NaughtyDog or GurillaGames don't say the ps3 is maxed out, its not realtime
If Bungie or Epic Don't say the 360 is maxed out, its not realtime

Crytek only do Realtime all the time

This has been said so many times, not just by crytek. That or "We're pushing it to the limit!" etc etc.

If crysis 3 is on this gen of consoles, then we'll know they were lying.

All nay sayers..HAVE you played the goddamn CRYSIS ever. Just play it to see the gap b/w your feeble consoles and PC.

I played, and what? Crysis is depressed cr@p with nothing of various gameplay and good story.
2 many bots that disagrees my previous posts - did you know that all gameplay of crysis2 recorded & demonstrated on pc with 360joy. And what about optimisation and best graphics now? This will be another "mafia2".

I dont think i agree at all with them. The footage that they have shown of crysis 2 has been less than impressive. Infact their original goal of being number 1 on any console was changed to top 3 or 5 and now they dont even talk about it. Its cause they simply dont understand the consoles well enough yet. They need more time and a few more games under their belt before they can really say they have maxed them, right now this is just simply untrue.

I remember when Donkey Kong came out for Snes. People didn`t believe it.
Nuff` said.

were maxed out in 2007.

uncharted 2 is a linear adventure game with low res, pre rendered backrounds that you cannot interact with, god of war 3 is a fixed camera, pre rendered uniteractive backround game, granted, these both look beautiful, but are rendered at 30 frames per second at 720p, modern warefare games are 600p, halo 640p, alan wake 540p, splinter cell 576p, and gt5 is 1280x1080....and its a freaking racing game, all the have to animate is one freaking track at a time, the crowd looks like the sims 2, the consoles are freaking dinosaurs, old backward tech from 6 to 7 years ago,

its time for the new consoles....720p is crap, you can't even find hardlly any 720p tv's anymore, i don't know a SINGLE PC gamer who games in 720p, or...even worse....halo resolution, mw2 resolution----ewwww

the console version of most games would best be played on this

http://www.topmic.com/m781s...

:)

Cevat's claims have also turned out to be facts. For crysis 1 he wanted a "future-proof" game, that turned out to be true.

just accept it, the consoles really have ben maxed out. They resort to different methods and tricks now to out do their previous efforts. look at the jump from gears 1 to 2, not much eh? killzone 2 to 3, the games look just as good if not slighly different not better...

there are other aspects of development that could max out hardware... not just the looks, physics, mo-cap, animations, A.I all take up processing power not just visuals.

well the difference between KZ3 and KZ2 is very minimal, but that could be due to lazy developers.

Future proof games, yeah you just add a ton more shadows,shaders,polys, then a current card can handle. Da dahhhhh it's future proof.

The skill of a dev is to get a great looking game running either at 30fps or 60fps.

Have yet to play a title from Crytek that maxes any of my consoles. Until then, I ain't buying that line, Crytek.

It would be nice to see crytek actually release this one…

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