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5 Reasons Why Kinect WONT Fail

So many articles have gone around saying how Microsoft’s upcoming product, Kinect, will fail miserably, sometimes stating why Move will own everything. Is it just me or does nobody like the idea of Kinect at all? To be honest with you, it is what you would call the best thing to ever happen in gaming.

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Kran5736d ago

Again, another one of those idiots who take the mick out of a name -_-'

danmachine5735d ago

crappy blog site isnt it? judging by your comments on here. your biased immature and misinformed.

dont click on the link.

Red_Orange_Juice5735d ago (Edited 5735d ago )

none of those reasons are valid, you don't copy and paste features from advertising brochure and call it reasons

Kran5735d ago

I dont own the site, so no.

rockleex5735d ago (Edited 5735d ago )

But it will fail the core gamer base once they get in touch with it. It will be like the Wii all over again. Realizing all the limitations.

PS Move is best of both worlds, camera and motion controller. But infinitely more precise. It adds more to the gameplay, while Kinect takes away from the gameplay.

Notice how all the core games that use Kinect has become on-rails.

I would be glad for Kinect if it actually was the best thing ever to happen to gaming. But its not.

Can you tell me ONE, just ONE legitimate reason why Kinect is the best thing ever? Other than "just IMAGINE the possibilities".

Because I want innovations that are actually applicable to gaming and helps move it forward. Not just some "imagine the possibilities" BS.

Kinect won't fail. But expect to "flail" when you're playing it though.

Is that the next level of waggle? Hmm...

Anon19745735d ago (Edited 5735d ago )

I can't knock the guy for sharing his opinion, but I did find his reasons rather nonexistent.

1. Technology - First off, why doesn't the eye toy count? You say there's been no other device that could do the things Kinect can - but the Eye Toy doesn't count because it didn't catch on? If anything, right there that should be a red flag that maybe Kinect won't catch on either because they are very, very similar in function. There's a reason that Sony and Nintendo both passed on this technology.

2. Pricing - So how is price not an issue? How is it not an issue when they're targeting the Wii's demographic, but the camera itself is almost as much as the Wii console? You don't really address why pricing isn't an issue in this segment.

3. Design - you lose me here as well. It's a camera, and not a pretty one. I don't think it wins any awards for design. But then you make the same ole, tired phallic reference to the Move controller. This is where your true colors start to bleed through. What on earth does the Move controller have to do with Kinect's success? If you can't make a compelling argument for Kinect without resorting to "Look over there! A dildo! Ooooooooo!" then you know something is wrong. Stick to the facts.

4. Content: "Soon there will be shooters! Shooters!" Word from the development world is that Microsoft specifically said NOT to attempt to develop games like shooters and 3rd party action type games due to issues with how these traditional games would transfer over to Kinect. Don't hold your breath waiting for a top of the line shooter. In the meantime, Kinect has a whole bunch of games...that were available on the Wii 4 years ago. Sorry, buddy. Content isn't one of Kinect's strong points.

5. Response: So, the overwhelming negative press that Kinect has received is OK because Kinect was just in Beta at E3 and Gamescom and Microsoft has tried "1000% harder than Sony"? Do you even hear yourself? Why not take some of the criticisms that the media has leveled against Kinect and look at those, instead of making ridiculous , unfounded claims to try to make your point.

It's rather worrying when an article about "Why Kinect won't fail," can't come up with a single, credible reason why it will succeed. Your entire article is baseless. It reminds me of that quote from Macbeth. "it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing."

Biggest5735d ago

So many articles have gone around saying how Microsoft’s upcoming product, Kinect, will fail miserably, sometimes stating why Move will own everything. Is it just me or does nobody like the idea of Kinect at all? To be honest with you, it is what you would call the best thing to ever happen in gaming.
Reason One: Technology
Now can anybody here tell me of a motion product that has been incorporated into gaming that DOES NOT require to hold anything? … No? (The Eye Toy doesn’t count. That hardly lasted long. How many people own them now?) Didn’t think so. You may have the Wii, which you have a Wiimote for and that silly Wii board thing. With the PS3, you have the Playstation Move, which is basically a copy of the Wii but for hardcore gamers and with a little light at the top of it. Kinect requires no controller. Something that has not yet been done in the gaming industry. Where the Kinect device will follow your every moment, detect your movements; listen more carefully than any other product to your voice, and much more. Now, I’m not being funny, but since when did the Playstation Move and the Wiimote do that? Does the Playstation Move and Wiimote have a hidden camera or something, or a hidden microphone? No. Well there you go then.
Reason Two: Pricing
One thing pretty much everyone bagging on Kinect have mentioned is the price. Do I have to remind you again that this is a high piece of tech? So if Robots were fully invented which would take hundreds of years to figure out how to make a fully functional one, you would expect to pay just a few hundred £/$ for one? Despite being the most high tech item of its generation? No! Again, do I have to remind you that Kinect has almost everything a gamer needs? A microphone to talk to friends, a camera to be seen by friends, no need to move the camera so when you are out of shot, you no longer have to get that PERFECT placement, a selection of fun games to play on and not to mention you can fully interact more into games than you would do with a normal controller? Now for Microsoft to make something so complex, which they have been working on for years, and to make it small enough that it wouldn’t clonk up the room, no doubt they’d want to earn a profit? Wouldn’t you if the whole idea of it nearly ripped your head open? The PS3 barely needs to be applauded as they just took the Wiimote technology for god sake, something that has already been done, so they hardly struggled.
Reason Three: Design
Now the first thing that needs mentioning. Kinect takes the weight off your hands. Yes sure, what’s the harm in a couple of pounds on your hands? Well there’s tonnes for those with arthritis. The Wiimote is basically a white block, and with the new designs which were recently announced, the controller is going to look even sillier. The way you use the Wiimote at times is just plain silly too. With the Playstation Move, and if I get in trouble for saying this, so be it, but as Inside Gaming has stated, and what looks like IGN is saying now, it’s basically just a big dildo. End of.
Now Kinect is just a sleek and smooth item that fits perfectly in an area, and you’ll barely know it’s there. Now what’s wrong with that?

Biggest5735d ago

Reason Four: Content
Now of course. When releasing a new product, you are bound to have only a certain number of release games. So far, the games that have been announced are less hardcore than the shooters, because Microsoft is trying to play it as safe as possible. They are trying to work their way up, going from fun family games, to more hardcore games such as shooters. Knowing Microsoft, before they start announcing shooters with Kinect, they would want to check it works fully, and then again, and then 1000 more times before they release it. The selection of games they have right now are a lot more simpler. In due course, such games people actually want will be available in no time. Playstation Move is taking a big risk, as anything could go wrong. Sony seems to think to themselves: “Yep. This works. Good. Check it again- oh it works still? Oh great. Time to release it”. That’s how Sony works. They think once it’s good the first time, its good forever.
Reason Five: Response
When events such as E3 and Gamescom were here, when Kinect was available, people came across numerous errors, and laughed at it and walked away, thinking it will be the most pointless piece of technology since the iPad. WRONG. Why do you think Microsoft have made a beta? Why do you think Microsoft release Kinect at those events? So that they can get response from people like us so that they can fix the errors, improve and hopefully begin on more technological items. Yes, the Playstation Move was also at these events, but did you see a beta anywhere for those who couldn’t be at those events? You must give credit to Microsoft for trying 1000% harder than Sony.
You get many people thinking to themselves: I wonder what virtual gaming will be like? Kinect is a start. With what people imagine virtual gaming would be, it would be wearing a big headset with no controller, as if you were actually in the game. Kinect partly does that, as it makes it feel like you are in the game. Having a big, clunky controller in your hand doesn’t give it a sense of realism. And with 3D technology arriving in our own living rooms, virtual gaming is getting ever so closer to us. Most people would disagree totally with what I’m saying in this article, but what you just read, if you could be bothered, is true. We don’t seem to appreciate what these people try to do for us. We just look at the bad things, laugh and walk away. When Kinect fully arrives in November, people will look back at this and think: That nutbag of a guy was right.

Petro5735d ago

clockback did write this crap! evidence http://twitter.com/kranitok... found this link from the article that was "Posted by Kranitoko"

This sentence was funny one "Does the Playstation Move and Wiimote have a hidden camera or something, or a hidden microphone?"

YES! Part of PlayStation Move is PlayStation Eye that happens to have camera and microphone here's a cut from Wikipedia to educate you:

"The PlayStation Eye features a built-in four-capsule microphone array, with which the PlayStation 3 can employ technologies for multi-directional voice location tracking"

karl5735d ago

"it is what you would call the best thing to ever happen in gaming"

did he really said that? jesus.. i hope kinects dies and drags MS down with it..

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Sebianoti5735d ago

Don't comment if you don't own a Kinect,
You can't say much now can you?

lex-10205735d ago

Wow, you are just really trying defend Kinect. And your comment defeats you just as much as whoever you aimed it at. I honestly do hope that Kinect works. I would be thrilled. I will also admit that i am a PS3 fanboy. But i love the idea of Kinect and think that its a brilliant idea. But until someone really learns how to develop for it it is going to fail. You don't have Kinect so you cant defend it anymore than what i just said.

Sheikh Yerbouti5735d ago

I too wish Kinect all the success. It is cool technology and should capture some of the market. It certainly won't happen for any of the reasons the idiot who wrote this dreamed out his ass.

His are fanboy reasons - made while making snide remarks about the competition while hyping well-known features. Fanboys can wish all they want and buy two Kinects a piece, and their opinions won't matter.

Kinect will win because of marketing. That's why companies market products. You can market a product people don't know jack about, and they still want it. The only question are what are our criteria and standards for success, and what is the impact of the marketing mix - price, product, placement and promotion - in reaching that level of success.

Looking at Sony, they've recently called EyeToy a big success. I thought of it as a failure, but they have lower standards of success that Microsoft, whose shareholders are used to huge margins (25%)compared to about every other industry (5%).

Along with paying $60 for LIVE,you can expect to see Kinect everywhere come November - Microsoft is under pressure to further monetize their business and guarantee high volume sales. Sony on the other hand is happy with word of mouth, only to let a product run through a short life cycle.

Agent-865735d ago (Edited 5735d ago )

Nice try, but these are some of the lamest reasons I have ever heard in support of Kinect.
TECHNOLOGY: Tech is fine, if it works, but the Kinect fails there. It was gutted to make it cheaper (chip dropped and camera resolution decreased) and resulted in a device with too much lag and not enough precision to be worthwhile.
PRICING: That's a joke right? $150 for that thing and that's just for starters. Need longer extension, oh that'll be $50. Need a stand, oh that'll cost you $30. Don't have a 360, you can buy a crappy 4gb Arcade Kinect Bundle, but increasing the HDD capacity by 250gb will cost you $150 more.
DESIGN: Games are supposed to be immersive and pretending to hold something when you have nothing in your hands is lame and takes away from the immersion. Swinging a sword, bat, club, or whatever just feels better with something that gives tactile feedback. Combine that with the rumble in the Move and you can also feel the "whack" when you hit something onscreen.
CONTENT: This is the biggest WTF of the whole article. The release games are lame: all fitness, dance and Wii-party games....oh joy. Then, the author goes on about how MS is so careful and always check "1000 more times before they release it". Really, and what was the whole RROD fiasco about. And, then to say "That’s how Sony works. They think once it’s good the first time, its good forever." What a joke!
RESPONSE: E3, Gamescom, the gaming press, and core gamers have all express their doubts and you think this is positive? You brag about a Kinect beta, but don't you think its a little too late for that. This would be the right time to beta software, but the device itself? Its problems should have been ironed out months ago. And about the Sony Move, he states "did you see a beta anywhere for those who couldn’t be at those events?" Ya, seem to remember hearing something about Move House Party event. Sounds like it to me.

Christopher5735d ago

What a horrific article.

***Now can anybody here tell me of a motion product that has been incorporated into gaming that DOES NOT require to hold anything? … No? (The Eye Toy doesn’t count. That hardly lasted long. How many people own them now?)***

Yeah, okay. If the Eye Toy and PS3Eye don't count, sure, then I've never seen it before. By the way, if you also ignore the Wii, the 360 is currently the best selling console this generation!

***One thing pretty much everyone bagging on Kinect have mentioned is the price.***

No one is 'bagging' about the price. In fact, people question it since it's $150 for a 2-player (max) peripheral and $60 for games with a development cost nowhere near that of hardcore games. That doesn't include having to own the console itself.

***Again, do I have to remind you that Kinect has almost everything a gamer needs?***

Actually, yes, please remind me. Even better, show me. Because so far Microsoft hasn't done either.

***Kinect takes the weight off your hands.***

Leading to a lack in muscle memory capabilities.

***Well there’s tonnes for those with arthritis.***

You do understand that people with arthritis feel pain in movement, right? So, no matter the peripheral, if they have to move their arms/wrists, it's pain.

***They are trying to work their way up, going from fun family games, to more hardcore games such as shooters.***

Yes... take another drink from the punch bowl there.

***Knowing Microsoft, before they start announcing shooters with Kinect, they would want to check it works fully, and then again, and then 1000 more times before they release it. ***

[Insert *facepalm* here]

Seriously? You're saying they haven't fully tested the capabilities of Kinect and they won't have done it until... when again? Sorry, but they've spent millions upon millions on this hardware. They know exactly what its capabilities are. If they could put out a shooter with Kinect, they would have announced it by now. And we're not talking the on-rails shooter we've see Star Wars to be.

***Why do you think Microsoft have made a beta?***

Marketing. It's the #1 priority with all betas.

***Why do you think Microsoft release Kinect at those events?***

The same reason everyone else in the industry does it.

***Yes, the Playstation Move was also at these events, but did you see a beta anywhere for those who couldn’t be at those events?***

You do know the only reason there is a beta at the time of the PS Move release is so they can have people talking about Kinect at the release of PS Move, right? They already know the issues that people are going to have with Kinect, heck we already know the issues. They don't need a beta to tell us more, it's just a huge marketing ploy to water down the news during the PS Move release and provide for some extra marketing from those who got the free peripherals.

Kind of like how they only showed the successes of the Kinect experience in the various malls on their shared Web site and none of the issues that were had at the events.

***You must give credit to Microsoft for trying 1000% harder than Sony.***

I give you credit for being a delusional tool.

doG_beLIEfs5735d ago

pure brilliance. this is the smack down of smack downs on kinect, and the best part is everything you said is true.

You could post articles and videos showing yet again that the PSeye does voice recognition has the same 4 microphones, can do head tracking, facial recognition, augmented reality, full body tracking including finger tracking (120fps eye vs. 30fps kinect), head tracking. most of the goodies the eye and kinect can do are from software not the hardware.

but yet again these FACTS about what the eye can do will be ignored as they have by this author so posting links would be a waste of my time.

add into the fact that motion capture studios use the little glowing balls for proper tracking which is EXACTLY what the move uses for the eye to track it....that is what makes it so accurate and precise, and that is why both the wii and kinect will NEVER be able to do even half the things the move can do and DOES with ease.

ndibu5735d ago

Move 3 weeks left. 2739 last week 24 000 total...*raises eyebrow*
Kinect 11 weeks left. 29 000 last week *double checks* not a typo...100 000 total
*grins trollfully* *points at move and move defenders* *laughs*
You're backing the last place horse. Last in consoles, last in handhelds and last in motion controlls. Teh Cell is a dud. Teh ps2 graphics psp is a dud. Teh real motion simulator is a dud.
Great to be technologically 1st but it don pay the bills when you're last.
*satisfied*...*gets back to cloning jailbreak* . . .for homebrew ;)

TheGreenMan5735d ago (Edited 5735d ago )

Since you seem to get off on the idea of sales figures, is MS paying you to spout fake-ass drivel that you claim to be "pre-order charts?" Because if they are, kudos - you were able to turn being a fanboy into a career. If they aren't paying you, then why are you so infatuated with how well Kinect sells? Here I'll play the sales game too. Ready here goes...

1. Kinect/360 will NEVER outsell the Wii - get over it.
2. It will take MS three consoles to outsell the PS1 (nevermind the PS2 & PS3).
3. The Wii will most likely outsell both the original Xbox and the 360 COMBINED.
4. The convenient truth that most of you fanboys ignore - the gap between 360 and PS3 is shrinking. And I'll bet my hat that by Xmas 2011, PS3 will be ahead. Why? Because MS has nothing but river rafting games and fake Stars Wars demos to keep Kinect going. It's okay though, you can still cling to your argument that MS is ahead of Sony...for now.

...see isn't playing sales fun!?!

BTW, you say the Cell is a dud yet MS has absolutely NOTHING that compares graphically with Sony's heavy-hitters.

It's okay though, because Kinect will sell well thanks to blind sheep like you who will buy anything with an MS label on it. And I guess that's all you need to sleep at night.

...sad

- B.C.

peyote5735d ago

Because MS has spent FAR FAR more on their marketing for kinnect. That still doesn't change the fact that kinnect is a terrible peice of technology that has no games.

I can understand why casuals may be happy, but core gamers? WTF? Why would you be happy? Your sense of pride in some large corporation making money as if you were somehow involved or responsible is sad and misplaced. But it does amuse me.

Scotland-The-Brave5735d ago

I bet your whore of a mother is proud of you!

a08andan5735d ago

The author of this article failed. There is no such word as "WONT" at least not in the context in which he intends to use it. Should be "WON'T". Assuming he means "... Kinect WILL NOT Fail"

thorstein5735d ago

That doesn't even make sense.

Oh, wait, gamenoob.co.uk hasn't heard about apostrophes yet. (No, they're not trophies) and they won't get your point across unless you are wont to use them correctly.

a08andan5735d ago

Are you talking about my post? I don't understand what you mean :P

thorstein5735d ago

replying to the 1st post.

EVOLVED5735d ago (Edited 5735d ago )

yea finally a article that flames the other side.

I figured it out, sony fanboys don't play games they site on the internet all day flaming xbox 360 article's.

Scary695731d ago

I could give you 10 reasons why kinect will fail completely.

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Livin_in_a_box5735d ago

I don' think it will fail because there too many MS fanboys out there who will buy whatever accessory is released for the 360 and the people who genuinely think that this will be the greatest motion controller this gen, but I still think it's pure crap. Sure, it might be an expensive bit of technology but I just really don't like it. It requires you to stand for all games and have a large room to even be able to play with 2 or more players.

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jack_burt0n5735d ago (Edited 5735d ago )

box is right, they will pay anything for live for new controllers and will buy kinect and smile about it even if it doesn't really work properly.

EVOLVED5735d ago

jack is for jackass, the controller comes with a play and charge kit, which is 25 alone. you ever hear of bundled package. all the companies do it. even sony, so stop running your mouth about something
every single company does. the normal controller you can get for 39.99.

so your comment is what a fool would say, fool.

Kain815735d ago

mmmhhh...cause of LEMMINGS???

BenjamazingUK5735d ago

Some fair points. I still think there should have been more variety to the launch titles rather than these 'Wii-esque' games and definitely some more options for the starter pack.

Kran5735d ago

Look at the Wii. Its the top selling console of all time. Why cant the 360 do the same then?

Sarcasm5735d ago

The PS2 is the top selling console of all time... currently...

Kran5735d ago (Edited 5735d ago )

OK. Second most. whatever most. Whatever. Its sold more than the PS3 and 360 combined. end of.

Livin_in_a_box5735d ago

Because those games are casual crap that the main 360 audience doesn't care for. They're trying to draw in new gamers, which is all well and good but look at the Wii and what that has turned in to.

ZombieAutopsy5735d ago

Wrong again clocky i belive the Ps1 is the second highest selling console right now, either that or the NES or SNES but i believe the Ps1 just barely outsold one of them.

a08andan5735d ago (Edited 5735d ago )

The ps2 has sold over 132 million consoles. Think the ps1 is around 100 million if I'm not mistaken :). Imagine the next Playstation being backwardscompatible with ALL ps1, ps2 and ps3 games. That is one hell of a library of games :P

So the order (in terms of sold consoles) should be:

1. PS2
2. PS1
3. Wii
4. Xbox 360
5. PS3
6. Xbox

Dunno about Nintendos other consoles though. :)

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TheGuardianFID5735d ago

but that doesn't mean it won't sell!!!

AllroundGamer5735d ago

cause Kinect has the Oprah sticker on the cover ;)

TheGuardianFID5735d ago

Oprah FTW, yeesh, I can't believe I just said that out loud!!! 8P 8)

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio15d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing15d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9215d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit15d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing15d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9215d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay17d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn217d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn217d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown17d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay17d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay17d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac16d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger17d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300017d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde17d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde17d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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Agent7518d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_16d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.