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Kinect Will Launch in Spain with "Mexican" Language Support Only

VGChartz.com writes: "When Kinect launches in Spain this November, it will only include voice support for 'Mexican.' That's not even a real language, and it's different enough from Spanish that the whole of Spain will be pretty much out of luck when it comes to controlling their 360 with voice commands."

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yoshiro5733d ago

its normal...MS doesnt give a f about europe (except UK)

Red_Orange_Juice5733d ago (Edited 5733d ago )

Mexico - official language: Spanish

/it must be weird to talk in language that is not named after the country you live in anyway

Longrod_Von_Hugendon5733d ago

Ahaha it's Montezuma's revenge!

Cenobia5733d ago

Well I only speak American, so I'm all set.

/s

darthv725733d ago

it would be funny if in the UK it doesnt understand english. After all..american english is based off the queens english (aka "English" english) but with waaaaaayyyy more words in the vocabulary.

Mexican spanish is like spain spanish with some extra vocabulary words as well.

Christopher5733d ago (Edited 5733d ago )

It's not about Spanish, it's about the vast differences in dialects.

Most of Spain speaks Castilian Spanish and the rest Andalusian, which wouldn't be supported if they only have support for Spanish from Mexico. That means voice commands won't be much use to them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

Edit: Of course, this only verifies that there will be issues with ascents in any language if they're not supported.

Christopher5733d ago (Edited 5733d ago )

Andalusian: http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

I'm no expert, but I do know the differences. My wife speaks Highland Spanish from Bolivia, I've lived in Panama, and know more than a few other people from various other countries. I understand that there are differences in Spanish just like the differences in a Boston accent compared to a Texan accent.

***But he's actually from Spain cgoodno. You're getting asked what andalusian is from someone who is actually Spanish. ***

It's my fault he's ignorant. It's not like most people recognize someone from Puerto Rico as speaking Caribbean Spanish. They just say that the person is from Puerto Rico. Same with Bolivians, you're either from La Paz or Santa Cruz, not Highland vs Argentine variant.

I answered his question, so I don't see the need to go further with this.

lolzers5733d ago (Edited 5733d ago )

But he's actually from Spain cgoodno. You're getting asked what andalusian is from someone who is actually Spanish.

EDIT:Those damn ignorant Spaniards. They make me sick. Living in their own country and not knowing the different dialects. Thank God there are foreigners to help them with these issues.

Christopher5733d ago

***The Andalusian dialect is the second most spoken dialect in Spain, after the transitional variants between Castilian and Andalusian***

I guess you learn from who you can then, lolzers.

I know a few people who can teach me a lot about my own country. I can never remember all of the state capitols and similar information.

lolzers5733d ago

This is true. Only today I learnt that Bob Hope was English and that he also enjoyed a bit of back-scuttling. I got told this by a Mongolian friend. A bit of knowledge goes a long way.

Xelai5733d ago

Man, you really know zil about Spain and its languages.

Saying that Andalusian is a dialect when it is just an accent is plain wrong, as it is saying it is the most spoken dialect of Spanish.

There are NO dialects in Spain, there ir Spanish, different accents and different altogether langueages, as in the UK.

Read a REAL encyclopaedia for a change, and get your act together.

American English from Texas is a dialect of American English? It is not, same in Spain.

Just a bit of logic makes wonders.

Snap! It is N4G! My fault pointing out logic then, sorry.

By the way, support for European languages comes in Spring, including Spanish with Spain`s accent.

Christopher5733d ago (Edited 5733d ago )

***Saying that Andalusian is a dialect when it is just an accent is plain wrong, as it is saying it is the most spoken dialect of Spanish.***

Dialect: A regional or social variety of a language distinguished by pronunciation, grammar, or vocabulary, especially a variety of speech differing from the standard literary language or speech pattern of the culture in which it exists: Cockney is a dialect of English.

Accent: A characteristic pronunciation, especially one determined by the regional or social background of the speaker.

Also, it's the second most spoken dialect in Spain, which is what I said above.

***Read a REAL encyclopaedia for a change, and get your act together.***

Use a dictionary. Online or otherwise.

As far as using an encyclopedia...

From: http://www.encyclopedia.com...

"Andalusia also has its own regional dialect—Andalusian—that contains words derived from Arabic, reflecting the region's period of Moorish rule."

***Just a bit of logic makes wonders.***

Indeed. It does.

***Snap! It is N4G! My fault pointing out logic then, sorry.***

Oh, no worries. You pointed out no such thing. Carry on.

Xelai5733d ago (Edited 5733d ago )

It is just awesome how a guy from his computer screen in the Americas goes and tries to establish the standard and reality of a place he has never ever been to. Cool.

Cockney is infinitely much different to English, than the "Andalusian" accent is to Spanish. As I said, is Texan a dialect?

It is a simple as the fact that if you go to Spain and speak about this Andalusian dialect people will take you for what you are.

Your cool link says there are words in Andalusian that are intrinsic to that dialect, different to Spanish, ok say me two such words that do not appear on RAE.es.

There are none.

But hey, do not feel bad about me crashing your little prejudice stuff, or how just from reading some cool links from the net you feel like you know something about a place.

Or better still, do not stop feeling so so so smart and knowledgeable for knowing how to copy paste and googling.

Cheers m8.

PD By the way not losing more time discussing this stuff, continue by yourself.

Christopher5733d ago

***As I said, is Texan a dialect? ***

Yes, it actually is.

***Cockney is infinitely much different to English, than the "Andalusian" accent is to Spanish.***

This isn't a matter of slang. It's a matter of pronunciation. We're talking about voice commands here, and differences in pronunciation is a key factor. The one put out by Microsoft takes into account Mexican pronunciation, which is different from other regions in a number of ways.

So, the way someone with a Cockney dialect says 'stop' is different than how someone with a Texan dialect says 'stop'.

***It is a simple as the fact that if you go to Spain and speak about this Andalusian dialect people will take you for what you are.***

If people are not ignorant, they might take me for someone who took the time to look up the history of their people and their language. You on the other hand have not done the same thing.

***But hey, do not feel bad about me crashing your little prejudice stuff, or how just from reading some cool links from the net you feel like you know something about a place.***

It's better than opening my mouth and being proven a fool.

Xelai5733d ago

Just proving that you have to try and "best" anyone even in matters you did not even know about them 2 hours ago, by reading links on the net.

Awesome, try going to Spain for a change and see for yourself, it would be surprisingly enlightnening.

I have been last week in Madrid, Malaga, Barcelona and Ibiza, and you sincerely got no idea whatsoever, apart from your 5 minute "culturization" on the web.

But hey, you are the educated one, that cares about their history and traditions, instead of someone that has lived there and makes business with them monthly, hehehe, yeah, über cool man LOL.

By the way, living in any hispanic american country is not by a long shot even similar to European Spain, whole different stuff, just if you are tempted to make one of your 2nd Grade comparisons.

Calling a fool to someone who lives in a country because you just read the Wikipedia and feel superior denotes a special type of class.

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saint_john_paul_ii5733d ago

Mexico= Different type of spanish, or you can say, spanish slang.

potenquatro5733d ago (Edited 5733d ago )

Spanish is Spanish no matter what country you go to. The difrences in Spanish around the world are mainly accent and pronounciation, but words are the same. NO spanish speaking country in the world has a a single way of speaking spanish. There are many forms and accents of difrent spanish in every region of every hispanic country.

This is purely market driven and is not as bad as it sounds. MS is a north american corporation. There are 250 million english speakers and 250 million spanish speakers in north america. compare that to the 60 million english and 40 million spanish in europe.

Just like "brits" don't have a problem understanding "yanks"..."vato s" and "gallegos" can understand each other just fine. There are other countries outside of europe that speak spanish, english, portuguese and french. And we're the majority so..........

EDIT: MEXICAN doesn't exist. They speak Spanish in Mexico. It is a huge(kind of offensive) fail on that part.

Non_sequitur5733d ago

potenquatro is right. I could understand many Spanish dialects just like I could understand many English dialects. The biggest difference is in the slang but they are still the same language when speaking formally. Some everyday language is different, but only in word choice. Some countries may have the preference to say 'that's great' where in another country they would say 'that's dear'.

bjornbear5733d ago (Edited 5733d ago )

wow...what a huge level of fail.

expect the basque people to go ape shit over this.

"mexican" as a dialect has nuances that aren't in various spanish dialects...wtf MS...ignorance =/

seriously you'd expect people behind such a potentially successful product to be more educated about basic stuff like this...*smh*

Playerz85733d ago

This is an example of Microsoft not knowing about the rest of the world, besides the US.

no_more_trolling5733d ago

just like the average american lol

Sarcasm5733d ago

"Spanish? Mexican? Aren't they the same?" -MS exec

potenquatro5733d ago

Spain is not the biggest spanish speaker in the world. North and south America have spanish speakers in the hundreds of millions. In a globalized world, perhaps it's europe ignoring certain realities and, eurpoe is failing to see outside of itself.

Theonik5733d ago

MS Exec #1: What language do they speak in Spain?
MS Exec #2: Mexican
MS Exec #1: You're sure?
MS Exec #2: Yes, in Spain they speak a Mexican dialect called Spanish.
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Beyond the joke now, that's like saying that they speak American in the US, not English...

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B00M5733d ago (Edited 5733d ago )

darthV72 - How does 'American English' have way more vocabulary than English?

Theonik5733d ago

Don't know. They only replace some words with others. And very few words that aren't relevant in the average US dictionary. But it's the same the other way around. Oh and they hate the letter "u".

B00M5733d ago

English, Japanese and Mexican - haha MS get your act together.

Xelai5733d ago

European languages, including Spanish from Spain will be supported in Spring.

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bmw695733d ago

Nobody said it was - read the article

TheLeprachaun5733d ago

I did. I was referring to the title.

bmw695733d ago

It is in inverted commas - read the article. They clearly talk about the dialect and how it is different enough to traditional Spanish that MS shouldn't be confusing the two. Nobody ever said Mexican was a seperate language.

Red_Orange_Juice5733d ago

come on, we all know n4g is about catchy titles, not the articles

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DORMIN5733d ago

Say whaaaat!?

I can speak Mexican.

/s

thorstein5733d ago

Not bloody English with its: bits and bobs and plonkers.

B00M5733d ago

You don't speak American, the language is 'English'.

thorstein5732d ago

I thought that was obvious.

nycredude5733d ago (Edited 5733d ago )

Tell that to the Dominicans and Puerto Ricans!

J/K

@Pwnsause

I have lots of Mexican, Dominican and Peurto Rican Friends and they all swear it's all different languages! I swear it so funny when we hang out. All they do is make fun of each other!

Dominicans are more understandable if you can keep up. Damn they speak fast!

pwnsause5733d ago

Puerto Ricans has the worse spanish. if you listen to their conversations, its ridiculous, its like speaking in code.

Dominicans though are a bit more understandable.

Longrod_Von_Hugendon5733d ago (Edited 5733d ago )

"It will only have voice control capabilities for Japanese, English, and Mexican."

Mexican is not a language and MS' documentation incorrectly states it as so.

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NYC_Gamer5733d ago

when on here can speak Mexican?new invented language

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Joy Ride Turbo - The Beginning of the End for Xbox Kinect

Joy Ride Turbo launched 10 years ago today. The first title was Xbox Kinect exclusive, yet this sequel failed to support the device at all.

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10 of the Biggest Video Game Hardware Failures Ever

Cultured Vultures: "Sadly, not all hardware is created equal, and no matter how much developers might try, some gaming hardware just fails to hit the mark. We’ve compiled a list of 10 gaming hardware fails, and boy did some fail hard."

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Knightofelemia1572d ago

I would label the Power Glove, Kinect, and that Tony Hawk skateboard more as hardware addons hardware failure would be like the Virtual Boy and one day Stadia.

Magog1571d ago

Kinect was bundled with every Xbox One and inflated the price on an already underpowered and low RAM machine so for the One it wasn't an accessory as much as a white elephant.

CaptainHenry9161571d ago (Edited 1571d ago )

Definitely the RROD but that power glove had a lot of issues as well. The Kinect just didn't work

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CrimsonWing691571d ago

Hardware add-ons are more like RAM or a video card, basically components that enhance capabilities or performance of the computer.

If you really want to get technical the Kinect is more of a peripheral device, kind of like a keyboard or mouse to a computer.

ThatsGaming1571d ago

The person in this article obviously is not up on their gaming history....

Sega Saturn, Sega Dreamcast, Coleco Gemini, Commodore 128, Commodore Amiga, Atari 5200, Atari 7800 were all massive failures and in most cases cost their companies participating in future gaming generations.

Gamer791571d ago

Sega saturn (successful in Japan) and dreamcast were not failures.
Seems like you're not up on you're gaming history

septemberindecember1571d ago

@Gamer79

How in the world are the Sega Saturn and Dreamcast not seen as failures? They both sold around 8M each, which is much lower than the ~30M that the Genesis had sold before it, and even the Master System before that. They were both the worst selling consoles in their respective generation (PS1, N64 outsold Saturn, PS2, GC, and Xbox outsold Dreamcast). Both of the consoles were incredibly short lived. The Saturn was discontinued in every territory but Japan after just three years. In Japan the console was discontinued after six years. Meanwhile the Dreamcast was discontinued worldwide in 2001 after launching in most territories in 1999 and in Japan in 1998. The failure of the Saturn and Dreamcast lead to Sega pulling out of the hardware market. Which, by the way, all of this occurred when Sega was massively dropping the price of their consoles quickly to compete. Sega was hemorrhaging money at this point.

None of this indicates a successful console. Saying the Saturn was a success because it did better in Japan is like saying the Vita is a success (they both sold around the same amount of units in Japan). Even the Wii U outsold these consoles worldwide.

Magog1571d ago

The picture should be the 360 RROD. When I think of gaming hardware failures that's what springs to mind. Kinect and it's bundled price tag definitely hobbled the already underpowered Xbox One though for sure so I would give it a close second place.

porkChop1571d ago (Edited 1571d ago )

That's not what the author means by failures. It's about hardware that failed in terms of sales (Wii U) or just failed to deliver on its promise (Kinect).

Magog1571d ago (Edited 1571d ago )

Given that the 360 had a year head start, much easier hardware to develop for, was cheaper, and still ended up in third place I think it qualifies especially when you factor in the frustration and huge losses incurred by RROD.

porkChop1571d ago

Selling over 80 million consoles isn't a sales flop. We get it, you don't like Xbox, but that doesn't mean the 360 is suddenly a failure.

Rhythmattic1570d ago

Porky....
You know how many people I know bought a 2nd or third 360 due to RROD? Even when MS had to confront the issue with replacement systems, my mates couldn't wait for even the turnaround of sending it in, and waiting for a replacement.,,..,..
If that's how you consider it a win... OK.. but so is having 5 , of which 3 don't function.... Its a win win....mwhahahahaha

porkChop1570d ago

"my mates couldn't wait for even the turnaround of sending it in"

You're acting like it would take months. When I sent my 360 in I got a new one literally 5 days later. As soon as MS had tracking confirmation that you sent yours, they'd send a new one to you the same day. No one is going to spend hundreds to buy a new console instead of waiting a week. I swear you guys pull some of the dumbest shit out of nowhere and think people will actually believe it.

Regardless, none of this changes the fact that this isn't what the article is even about.

Rhythmattic1569d ago (Edited 1569d ago )

Porky
"You're acting like it would take months"
Sometimes it could.. FFS.. 'Strya here...
Best turnaround I reckon was 2-3 weeks.....
Either way, My mates experiences still exist.. So Sorry, no point trying to earn Xbox Achievements when it doesn't feature in what was a situation you never dealt with,,,,
3 of my friends would disagree (overall, 10 extra Xboxes purchased)
Regardless.. MS sold a lot of 360's that was due to this reason.. That is sales. Fact

"none of this changes the fact that this isn't what the article is even about."
Headline says HELLO !
Oh and "Sadly, not all hardware is created equal," that's enough to pass this on without taking your article bias into consideration.....
As for the rest.... Ok.. But you've actually gone out of your way to give MS a Pass... Fap on.

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Aloymetal1571d ago (Edited 1571d ago )

Yup, and because of that big fiasco MS had to fork out 1 billion but knowing them I think they're very proud of the 360, it's the only time a MS console reached 80mil+ sales, RROD played a big part of that and a record they will never break again.

Rhythmattic1570d ago (Edited 1570d ago )

So true.. Even when MS accepted they where caught out in the biggest lie of any generation, The wait for a replacement was outweighed by just buying another, and having one be returned as a backup, which, btw, generally failed on first swap.
I own honestly can't believe MS tards are just supporting , or arguing why and what MS did by just dismissing it....

lonewolf101571d ago

Lol I had the Atari Jaguar, surprised its "competition" the 3DO isn't on the list too, both as "popular" as each other.

SullysCigar1571d ago

Lol same. Played the crap out of Aliens Vs Predator and Tempest 2000 .... aaand that's about it really!!

lonewolf101571d ago

Sad but true that was pretty much it.

Kurt Russell1571d ago

Agreed, I never actually saw a 3DO make it to retailers in the UK. At least the Atari Jaguar was sold for around 6 months.

lonewolf101571d ago

It made it to some my brother got one, fared just as well as the Jaguar so most probably hard to find in general.

darthv721571d ago

3do had way better games. Jaguar not so much. Neo Geo sold less than both and yet isnt considered a failure. Go figure.

LWOGaming1571d ago

Stadia is a weird one. It hasn’t sold at all well but in terms of how it works it’s still miles ahead of Xcloud in terms of stability and performance. Xcloud is still a way behind and that needs sorting but it will be in time. Stadia for me is one of those things that will go down as a what could have been moments. With better marketing it could have been a roaring success. I still play it and it remains the best place in my opinion to play CyberPunk 2077. Only platform I have played it on without having any issues at all. The tech is great. The concept is fine. Marketing terrible. Shame really.

Magog1571d ago

The sales model was awful. They should have teamed with an existing player to allow for local and cloud access to games or a gaming subscription service.

LWOGaming1571d ago

It was a strange mess from such a huge company, as I said, as a system it works really well but without gamers it’s nothing. Such a waste,

LWOGaming1571d ago

The Xbox One was Microsoft’s Nintendo Wii U. Undercooked, undersold and just an unholy mess. The thing is with any of these failures is to learn from them and thankfully both Nintendo and Xbox did just that to the benefit of gamers everywhere.

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Pivotal Decisions in Gaming History - Xbox Goes All-In on Kinect

Xbox 360's Kinect had flopped yet Microsoft insisted on mandatory Kinect for Xbox One, driving the price up and alienating their potential customers.

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darthv721748d ago

the tech was pretty damn good but their focus on making it the centerpiece was not. Had they opted to keep it as a secondary or even tertiary device, it may have found new use for AR/VR.

PrimeVinister1748d ago

Maybe. But they were two early for VR and too late for motion control

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Godmars2901748d ago

Their focus was marketing metrics. Information gathering for targeted advertising. Also "event curating" or head counting for special TV events. If MS had had their way with always online and mandatory Kinect pre COVID, as and during it they'd likely be turning into dominant presence in many Western homes. Be getting subsidized by Disney and other streamers as well as the NFL.

Thing was, Kinect as an actual game system, its games, just weren't ready. MS moved on it too soon. Thankfully.

Atticus_finch1748d ago

Sorry but it was incredibly bad for gaming. The thing barely worked as intended and the games were broken shovelware. And let's not forget all the lies from Xbox to try and sell it. What happened to Milo?
It's like Xbox it's a perpetual lying machine.

PrimeVinister1748d ago

I had almost forgotten about Milo. It looks so unbelievable in retrospect. How did anyone believe it?!

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TheEnigma3131748d ago

Kinect requirement, TV focused, DRM, and $100 buried Xbone before it even stared.

PrimeVinister1748d ago (Edited 1748d ago )

I think Kinect was the worst of the bunch. They reversed DRM overnight and try to play down the TV stuff when they realised it made them look disinterested in gaming.

Kinect stuck around for six months, preventing sales and making more and more people upset when they dropped the Kinect and the price.

Atticus_finch1748d ago

Don't forget the inferior hardware which affects their game development to this day.
And the constant boasting and lying that hasn't change very much to this day.

kayoss1748d ago

I was kind of excited for the kinect. It had potential. That was until i tried it at one of their Microsoft store. The thing was so laggy and worker who was there, had no clue what he was doing. It kind of made rethink about buying an Xbox One with Kinect.

PrimeVinister1748d ago

I had already been turned off of the idea by Kinect for 360. Even when it worked, the games were bad and showed no potential.

Wii made you understand what they were going to do with it within about 10 seconds of Wii Sports. It went on to become a bit of a joke but at least it worked and had a purpose.

Thundercat771748d ago

The damage to the Xbox brand was so hard that til this day they are just the last place brand in the market.

PrimeVinister1748d ago

Totally. They haven't been really all that relevant since.

Godmars2901748d ago

That has to do with repeatedly failing, having to reaffirm only to again fail at creating a competent flow of decent games.

@PrimeVinister:
Until Game Pass and BC are mentioned. Only for the point to be missed.

kayoss1747d ago

thats because they dont know what they want to be. A gaming console, Television, or a gaming service?

Godmars2901747d ago

@kayoss:
They wanted, expected, to be Steam. To have everyone coming to them and paying for the privilege. That's the exact mentality on display when they tried to push always online.

brewin1747d ago

Its sad because the Xbox one version of Kinect was actually pretty solid. Not for motion games, I couldnt care less about those, but for the other features that are now commonplace in the gaming ecosystem. Things like voice control and optional motion features in games. Stuff that Sony did with the PS camera was pretty sweet and they could have done some of that stuff with Kinect.

The tech was pretty sweet when implemented right though. Who remembers the implementation in Dead Rising 3?! You could lure zombies away by saying stuff into the kinect, it was a bit hokey at first, but it actually enhanced the game significantly once you learned all the different voice commands. There was and still is nothing else like that!

The focus on TV seemed to be an issue for people, but the TV pass through had some real potential. They could have had cable companies giving the XBone out instead of cable boxes! I understood what they were trying to do, but they needed to show the games too, and thats where they lost the core gamers. Being able to jump right to a sports event or TV show with out leaving the console was actually a pretty cool thing. I spent many nights switching between NHL games or TV shows and jumping right back into my games seamlessly, just by telling Kinect to do so. It was better than people care to admit, but I loved it!

People say XBone had no games, but on launch I got Dead Rising 3, AC Black Flag, Watch Dogs, Killer Instinct, Battlefield 4, Forza 5, and Ryse. That was actually a pretty solid lineup in hindsight! Then later on it got gems like Quantum Break, Dead Rising 4, Sunset Overdrive, Gears 4 and 5, the Ori games, Rare Replay, Forza Horizon 3/4, State of Decay 2, ReCore (SUPER UNDERRATED GEM), Halo 5, Halo Wars 2, and all the great 3rd party stuff as well! I dare anyone who sat on the Xbox One to go back and give it a shot now.

It was actually a pretty great console all things considered. Yes the PS4 had better 1st party stuff, stuff that MS just couldnt top or even compete with, but there are some really great games that a lot of people missed out on that they would probably really enjoy if they actually played them. Thats why I recommend a Series S and Gamepass to a lot of people, as its a great way to get an awesome lineup pf games for super cheap!

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