Yeah, but what happens if you have to turn the camera around? In singleplayer this sounds fine because your always moving forward but what happens in a multiplayer map?

You just turn with the Move controller..... Same like a mouse, just move the controller in the direction you want to turn. (assuming you've played a FPS on PC)

I believe your mixing Kinect up with Move, Kinect is the one that will have trouble with character movement, thats why the games are on-rails.

I'm assuming when the target reticule nears the edge of the screen, the camera rotates round. I don't see that being much of a problem. And I've also seen gun accessories for Move that have an analogue stick on the gun, which I guess you can turn the camera with. But like the guy above said, Move came out on top of the dualshock in the socom trials so....case closed

FPS on wii dont require motion control,
it uses IR which is 1:1...
the lack of knowledge around here is like looking at a forum after the wii launched. It is IR god dammit not motion control.

The move is not going to EVER be as good as the mouse and keyboard for the exact same reason the Wii is never going to be - this being the fixed reticle issue. Its the simple step of being able to lift your mouse up to disengage input and place it back in the centre of of the mouse pad when you are performing a 180 (or close to) turn. you cant do this with either of these devices, as when you reach the end of the screen you will turn - however getting back to a confortable/playable position will result in your reticle (and thus your percpective) moving back to where it was (or close to).

Developers have tried to combat this by using binding boxes that are in the centre of the screen - meaning that when your reticle is in that box it is not fixed, however when it is moved outside of this box it will make you turn. Making these boxes very small has made it alot better (See Metroid Prime 3) however still far from matching a mouse and keyboard set up. AND THE MOVE IS GOING TO HAVE THIS EXACT ISSUE FOR FPS. Regardless of its 'slight' increase in accuracy over a wii (with m+), it is not going to be any better for playing fps.

truly mandatory? What I mean is that whats to stop them from implementing a control scheme without dead zones so that the camera moves wherever the Move pointer is pointed to. Its exactly the same control that the current right analog stick is using. If they do implement a control scheme with dead zone then, to not give the ability to customize would be brain-dead. Every console shooter has the ability to customize controller button layout. I would be very surprised if this wasn't there.

agree m8 IR is the most 1 to 1 controls out there at the moment perfect 1on1 movements for pointing guns on wii best console period with not enough Goldeneye 007 level games but that game will change that though i agree wii has the best FPS controls and the Wiimote looks grown up not like a starwars toy that lights up.Wii has Metroid other M,Goldeneye 007,NBA JAM,Trackmania,All amazing games that use IR Trackmania uses it for making your tracks cool Console with the best yet to come i think.

Ocnkng this is an inherent design issue with gyros.

If move truely was better it would not need gyros. Or ethier the camera. What fans are claiming is some how the gyros in move are more accurate than the ones in the motion plus.

Then some claim it's because of the camera.

First of all for the camera to true track the move in 3d it would need two globes. Sure the camera can track the proximity of the globe but not it's angle thus you can not point with the move globe camera only. On the wii we can look for the two ir lights and use that to do the distance and pointing. On the move this can not be done.

So after the player moves off screen the full power of motion plus is used for one to one yet because we have to use gyros to aim you get some errors. Now this is all that move uses almost a 100% of the time.
This is bad for shooting games.
For example no arcade light gun game uses gyros for aim. All aiming is line of sight. With the move I can rotate the wand and the system never knows what it's pointing at it only guesses what you are doing based on the gyros.

This controller is setup for failure or waggle controlls. During stress playing or true fps combat you will need to constantly recenter it. We can do this on the wii with out the player even knowing once the IRlight are seen again.

The wii mote is effectively two types of motion controllers now. The pointer and a full one to one motion controller.

The fps controlls are pretty much perfect on the wii. Conduit 1 cleared all of that up. Red steel 2 is currently the control king till golden eye or conduit 2.

Here is a design issue we are dealing with on move right now. A player celibates the move in a off manner some thing 35 degrees off. Then tries to play the game that way. All gyro readings will be off so effectively the play will have to adjust to how off they are every time they play. Yet on the wii we can ask the player to level the controll to set the gyros then pick ot up and point it at the screen till both IRS are seen then gyro data is corrected and the true center can be found.

That way user error is limited. I'm mean come of the Mario maker was a industrial designer also.

Move is cool but half baked once more.

I didn't like Days Gone either, it doesn't deserve to be on any best of list.

Same. They nailed it with Horizon. The trouble is I also want a new Killzone! Can't I just have it all?!

I’m with you I want Horizon 3 , Killzone and new IPs

One year after realease HZD sold 7.6 million.

https://www.noobfeed.com/ne...

So not a drop off.

Unless you're saying a HFW should have sold as much now as HZD sold in 5 years?

It's been 3 games, this includes Call of the Mountain. Also no, its a great improvement over HZD.

lol you are comparing:

HZD: 28 February 2017 - May 2023 (6 years+)

HFW: 18 February 2022 - May 2023 (1 year+)

We will see if it surpass original number.

There were rumours that they were working on a Socom reboot.

Even emulators are super simple to use.

Youre getting flak because people on here thibk of themselves as pc wizards. But honestly most poeple try and go get emulators and romz they end up with malware.. yes theyre "easy" if you know the basics but alot of people dont. That said the fact that its taken nearly 20 years to get a sustantially better experience for ps3 games than on its native system shows the complexity of getting bc to work. Sony, if they have any intention, should just invest in a vastly better psnow experience.

Did you purposely miss the entire point of my post?