I mean kinect does more pre-orders in the Americas in one week than Move has in total. You don't believe me, google it

I'm a hardcore PS fan but this and MS's version will be failures. We didn't buy Wii's for a reason.. We like to have controllers in our hands. Sure I'll take a hit for that statement but it is how I feel about this 'motion' control crap.

I`m getting it day one but I understand why alot of people won`t. I personally think It`ll grow into a pandemic by xmas after people starting getting their hands on the Move at someone elses house. The PS3 is basically what the Wii should have been and people ate up the Wii like it was going out of style....I`m just sayin.

This is Sonys down fall this Gan they seemed to think that because the PS2 was so popular they that they don't need to push the PS3 and it back fired MS and nintendo pushed there console under every ones noses and made sure every one knew what there consoles were.

I don't think they need to push Move to the gamers but for the none gamers they need to push Move as alot of people dont know about it or they say it just looks like the wii controller but twice the price to buy.

If they push it to show off the sports games and Eye pet ect then they may see big increase in sales for the none gamers this is how MS are trying to get Kinect into homes by pushing it in front of the none hard core which looks like it may pay off from the pre orders we are seeing.

It is not just the Playstation brand Sony are doing this with though its like this with there TV's MP3 players, mobiles and so on.

I really think Sony's got this one right. And it's bizarre, because they've taken a very iterative approach with it. Which is a little unlike Sony, because they're usually the ones releasing the expensive, over-the-top hardware.

But Move just seems right to me. The amount of software support it's getting is telling. It works in so many different experiences -- and because it's so easy to implement (there was an Ubisoft interview recently regarding RUSE where they said it was really simple to fit into their with virtually zero hardware overheads) it's going to be supported by a massive range of content. With such a low barrier for entry too (£50, and you probably own some games) I can just see people picking it up on impulse to "try it out". The more people that do that, the more publishers choose to fit it in their games. The more games that have it in, the more people want to check it out.

I think he's right. Day one sales for Move probably won't be huge (I've been sold on this device ten times over by now), but I can see it steam-rolling over time. No doubt we'll see plenty of doom and gloom when Kinect trounces it this Christmas -- but Sony won't be worried. This thing has legs. It has software support. It's cheap. And it works.

Like I say, I think they've got it right with Move, I really do. This thing's going to be a big success.

They may not be expecting it but there gonna get it! ;)

Quote:

'Sony expects motion controller PlayStation Move will succeed through strong word of mouth over time'.

Kinect on the other hand will fail, once the reviews come flooding in.

BTW, for those who say Sony arn't going to advertise MOVE, they are.

Worldwide Coca-Cola, Subway and other tie ups are planned to start shortly.

I think what's going to sell Move is what sold Demon's Souls: word of mouth. That's assuming it encourages positive conversation.

I'm probably not going to pick it up but I'm still eagerly awaiting some press reviews about it.

To the people who thinks that Sony is to quiet about the Move when it comes to advertising, they are most likely gonna "fire the big guns" when the product is on the market. That way, they will get more out of the money they put in when it comes to marketing. I also think that they do that because casuals probably won't pre-order anyway so if they want a piece of that cake, which they want ofc, then it is much smarter to wait with "the big guns" until close to release or on the day of the release.

I find that kind of interesting. Why wouldn't you actually try to get a big push day 1? I get the whole word of mouth thing but I think they are really over estimating how much hardcore gamers want this.

Im not expecting it either but I think its going to do well in the long run!

Sony has always been about steady long term sales. :)

I love the Mopve and will be buying one...but I don't think it will sell well at all.

Where are the advertisements???

I'm glad they don't expect big day 1 sales...they aren't going to get it.

because i want to play ping pong, and time crisis,

Now when it flops they will be seen as "I told you so's"

just show us the games, that will sell or not sell motion.

i really dont care about motion controlls, and neither have any of you. none of you praise the wii. so i dont care if this thing sells millions or even one.

Doesnt expect it to sell like hotcakes on day one. Unlike MS and the Kinect, then again I think MS is aiming more for people who don't have Xbox's with that one.

I can a few days before picking it up

Month One

I am the only one in my house who plays the PS3. My kids (10,6,3 - All girls) are not into it. They play garbage on the PC (Internet sites). However, when I showed them the Move ad they asked for me to get it day one.

The only problem I see with day one buy by me is the bundle Sony is offering. I alreay have the eye. They should come up with something that provides a deal for people with the eye. People with the eye already supported them. It is also sad that they do not have a 2 Move and game package without the eye.

Already pre-ordered.
I think Move is going to beat Kinect when the numbers is compared around March. Kinect will have hype, marketing campains, sell a ton on release and die horribly.

Move is going to launch very well - but there is GT5 thas is launching in November - which will mean it will have to compete on holiday sales with some of Sony's biggest titles.

But Move is going to be a huge success - that I am sure of. Nice upgrade for the Wii crowd wanting to move to more hardcore, and a great motion controller for the PS3 crowd. XB360 owners is going to have to play hype.

isnt it gorgeous how we treat animals.

That’s Zuckermans famous pig.

Move controller was extremely accurate great times back then

That definitely would have been the absolute worst time for stick drift to happen...

I always wanted a true to life surgery simulator for PSVR1. I always knew those Move controllers were precise AF under the proper conditions.

Move was a very accurate device under good conditions. Dr Marks even wanted to open it up for hobbyists and developers to extract more data to do more things. I even seen him use it for space, astronaut like simulations.

Sony always had the tech. They just needed the software to go with it. PS Move limit was not having an analog stick. Which it seems the PS5 controller made up for that.

I would like to see them use PS VR 2 for surgery or something with that eye tracking built in.

At least it wasn’t used for a mini-sub

It failed because motion controls can’t beat traditional controls. I’ll admit the tech has come ways since then but I will always choose a controller over a wand.

It was just a terrible controller. It was so crap that Sony refused to waste any more time or money fixing it. Despite me loving PSVR, the move controllers were the biggest let down of the generation. Always felt like they were a generation behind. Even for the ps3 days.

As a stand alone it failed. But it worked well for VR. But I'm glad to see the end of them with PSVR2.

It failed because it wasn't good and didn't have games. Even the wii was a trend and people are over controllers like that for games.

Little early to call Playstation VR a success too. Like other VR platforms it's a niche product and it's easily the worst VR headset, it's cheap so that helps.

It actually didn't fail or was a failure. It sold around 15 million before VR even showed up and had many games to play. Who knows how many more millions of the device were sold for PSVR. Especially when two are required for more immersive hands on gaming like Iron Man or Blood and Truth.

Dr Marks created Move as for some experiences but he knew that the Eyetoy and PS Move weren't core experiences for everybody like the Dual Shock controller. He's said that many times in interviews. It wasn't to take over regular couch controller gaming.

PS Move not only had titles for casuals to play for motion gaming on PS3, you could also play core games like Killzone and Resistance. Unlike its competitors, Wii and Kinect.

Unlike its competitors, PS Move continues to live on and be sold for VR. Wii motion gaming is pretty much dead. And Kinect itself is dead. All those casuals that propped up those other devices, went off to play on their cellphones. Basically making them a fad that didn't last. PS Move continues to be used and works on PS5 and can continue to be used for the life of PS5 for those using PSVR 1. That's 3 generations that PS Move will have been used.

Maybe the writer needs to make an article on why the Wiimote and Kinect are dead and can't be used on Switch or Series S/X. While PS Move continues to exist.

PS Move was the best form of motion gaming of the last, last generation. Wiimote and Kinect were technically far worse than the PS Move. Only Wiimotion Plus could compare and it was too little too late, with only one or two marquee titles proving the 'Plus' being a worthwhile upgrade.

While there weren't enough PS Move games, at least there were some true 'core games' that supported it, from KillZone 3 to Resident Evil 5. Something that Microsoft's 'casual motion system' could not offer, and most Nintendo Wii games didn't offer traditional controller support, whereas PS3 games almost always had a DualShock 3 option.

I'm a big fan of light gun shooters, and both Wiimote and PS Move ushered back in this genre, something the Kinect couldn't do as well. If you think the PS Move "sucked", then go back and play the light gun shooters on it, something not available on 360, Switch, PS4, XBO, XBSX, PS5.

After the PS Move, we did get one light gun system for consoles, the PDP Mars, and I can assure you, the tech inside that thing is truly unreliable junk.

So to sum it up, the last, last generation had three different motion control styles:
Microsoft - went straight stupid with Kinect, and was overall the least reliable worst experience.
Nintendo - all games supported Wiimote, but this was often to its detriment, not enough games supported traditional controls.
Sony - didn't have a ton of PS Move games, but the overall library supported traditional controls (this is overall the best outcome).

Only ever bought a couple Move-only games like Sorcery and the Fight, but I’ve gone ape over PSVR! I’ll always choose the sticks over the controller given the choice for VR. Big fan now.

Nintendo had better marketing and seemed like the real thing.

Xbox and playstation seemed like imitation.

Well,

The "failure" has a controller for the PSVR and soon the PS5 VR.

For all the Wii's success, where is the Wiimote? And Kinect, yeah MS literally took away any functions on the xbox one with updates.

move had some great games and was an awesome "peripheral". if you played wonderbook or resistance then you would probably agree with me.

Failed because there wasn't enough games or "arcade classics" that used the Move. Still use it to play Time Crisis and HOTD from time to time

Wouldn't say failed given its second life as a PSVR option

I had one and beyond the initial “wow this is cool” hour after unboxing it, it basically sat in a cupboard gathering dust.

It wasn’t that fun or revolutionary really when we already had the wiimote, Kinect was more interesting from a technology standpoint but ultimately, the only good motion games were on Wii - not Xbox or PS.

The move was Sony attempt to cash in on the wii craze. Hell, the last article about the move that actually generated a lot of heat on here was over 4,000 days ago. Nobody talks about this, VR, or the vita until someone shames it.. then all the defenders come out the woodworks.

It is basically only peripheral being used for 3 generations,.. So how is it a fail,.. ?? Still being used for Beat Saber, BoxVR,... I heard it was really hard to get. Article is just shit.

Another one of Sony's demented ideas like PS Home and the PSP Go.

I think the problem that Sony faced with the PS move was the PR marketing mess they created around the thing.
1) if it was aimed toward casual well there was nothing casual about setting understanding what you would need to play a game (some require only the camera, others 1 move and some 2 moves)
2) If it was aimed at a more core audience then sorry but the game library was quite small or non-existant.
3) Wonderbook

If Sony would have communicated better and support better the Move I think it would have fared a lot better
My personal favorite game is Tiger wood PGa 11, because the Psmove really makes the game shine.

wait, it failed?

for me it failed because it never went down in price and only a handful of games appealed to me on it
mainly no more heroes and the resident evil cronicles games

It wasn't useful until VR came along but it hindered VR due to its lack of analogue stick. Fortunately psvr2 isn't just using old hardware because of the excess amount of stock available

Failed? What spanned 3 generations and still being sold. Tidy little profit for Sony if you ask me.
Shouldn't this conversation be kinect failed?

The move controller was and still is great for FPS games, I used them alot with killzone 3, socom 4 and MAG. The deadzone aiming was very very competitive, just as good as mouse and keyboard if set up right. It was comfortable to use too in conjunction with the separate analog move controller in the other hand. Imo it has been under utilised and could still be used today in most shooters.

The reason the MOVE failed is obvious. Motion gaming is for casual gamers and Nintendo did an incredible and much better job marketing to them. At the time where casuals were all in gaming on the phone, the Wii brought them to consoles. However, Playstation is a core gamer machine just like XBOX and as the article stated the cost to enter for casual gamers was not only a barrier but even the look of them (heard people say MOVE looks like a sex toy). All these peripheral things fail because most core gamers are not into these things like Home, 3D Gaming, Move, Kinect, and yes I'm saying it, VR. Core gamers support is the consistent life of gaming.

The casual gamer may stick around for a little bit like the Wii because of the fad and hype for non-core gamers but those folks eventually move on to something else. VR was to be that next thing but it has not caught on as big as the Wii with casual gamers. To its credit it has caught on more with some core gamers but as a VR owner, its losing a lot of steam.

If Sony wants to do the smart thing, MOVE on from VR because it will not be supported by most gaming companies that make games for core gamers who don't want to be wearing goggles for hours. Casuals will not be spending the huge investment of a PS5 for them to play PSVR.

I went to a conference in Seattle right when the Moves were announced that was dedicated specifically to showcasing them. We went out for drinks with some of the execs that were there and we specifically asked them, "why are there no thumbsticks on these things!?" They told us that they didn't want to create a controller with multiple movement inputs because it would confuse people. I told them that that very decision is what's going to doom the controller. And sure enough, even with the Navigation controller, they couldn't create enough software to justify any hype around it.

My own opinion is that it just wasn’t that appealing, the dildo controllers and the lack of worth while games kept it back.

Lack of an analog stick on it in my opinion.