I think that time came with Wrath of the Lich King. A lot of people left when they released that. If you think they have anywhere CLOSE to 11 million subscribers anymore you're sorely mistaken. That was at the height of its popularity about 2 and a half to 3 years ago and has steadily gone down since then. Sure, they are still making money but no where near what they were. The game is really showing its age and I don't think Cataclysm will revive it. It needs a complete graphics, gameplay and storytelling overhaul to be considered fresh, which will cost way too much time and money to be feasible so that's why they're just going to make a new MMO.

I don't think any MMO is good enough to play for more than a couple years. WoW is no different. It's been stale for a long time, and as soon as more and more action based MMOs with better storytelling, more "fun" and less grind come out, WoW will only further decline. They simply wont be able to compete with the fun factor. The only ones who will continue to stay are the ones who devoted their entire lives to the game.

The thing about Guild Wars 2 is that there is no monthly fee, therefore they can actually make the game FUN and not worry about cramming it with useless time-consuming filler. If you don't play the game for years on end, so what? No skin off their backs. Just have fun and play it for what it is and be able to enjoy it without thinking about long term time and financial commitments to it. They were able to design the game based off that philosophy and not the complete time waste "how can we make people play for as long as possible so they'll keep paying for monthly fees" philosophy that games like Final Fantasy XIV have.

There is a real and serious chance NC SOFT will bring GUILD WARS 2 to the PS3.

With no monthly subscription fee, this is the perfect MMO for consoles.....I'd get it.

i agree. well, atleast i liked it better. though GW always seemed to be more of an online dungeon crawler than an MMO.

Every other MMO is better than WOW.

I liked Guild Wars 1, but have never been under the illusion that it was better than WoW. GW centered on PvP (something not everyone, myself included, like) and had a crazy low level cap or 20 (which I hit with 4 different characters in a very short amount of time).

Yes it looked better and had some cool features and had no monthly fees, but the detached instancing of everything but the towns and, low level cap and PvP orientation killed the game for me. And lets not talk about the "expansions", all of which were stand alone games rather than added content to the original.

I just hope Guild Wars 2 doesn't follow the same path because I like the look of it and look forward to playing it.

but it's wrong. You should head to the site and read up on the developer diaries and such. They're focusing on having some pretty spectacular end-game content. PVP will still be a very viable, side-option, just like it was in GW 1.

Honestly, I maybe PVPed 15% of the time in the original GW (and I'm a PVPer). I found the storyline, presentation and lore really captivating and spent a the majority of my hours doing PVE stuff.

With an heavy focus on actual storylines like Kotor online , i dont get where you heard that it's pvp centric .

It's not gw1 wich was mostly arena centered with a still prety good pve campaign .