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0mega45774d ago (Edited 5774d ago )

like as in EA's BadCompany2 you could go out and purchase the game used for much less but you would also have to buy a code to get extra maps and other stuff that was originally paired with the game

It really isn't a bad idea as it allows for gamers to still get access to used games while not hurting the sales of the developers as much when its offset by a online code to get extra content and access to certain online features

i would much rather sony use online pass as an option to gamers who didn't purchase the game new
than charging you for multiplayer online like xboxlive where even though you purchased the full game you have to
have live just to access mulitplayer

fastrez5774d ago

I agree with that, moreso the last point about Sony charging for an xbox live style online service. I don't think it will ever come to that. Can you imagine the backlash?

As much as people disagree with online pass and penalising preowned buyers, the fact is that preownerd really, really does harm the industry in a big way. Developers only get a small cut of a game sale the first time that game is sold, not the 20 times it gets sold as a preowned game.

I commend developers for exploring new ways of keeping sale revenue in their own pockets, but I understand why preowned buyers are upset.

In short, it's a tricky one :/

Red_Orange_Juice5774d ago (Edited 5774d ago )

Sounds reasonable, I almost always buy games new and sometimes sell them but keep most.

How is it going to work with rental copies?

DJMarty5774d ago (Edited 5774d ago )

Used Cars never hurt the car industry. You don't see Ford wanting a cut of all used cars sold now do ya.

Cars cost thousands of pounds, games alot less.

It's complete bollocks that they say it's hurting them.

Games Industry just greedy bastards.

Dramscus5774d ago

@dj marty

Car companies get more money back from each car sold than just the purchase price though. Usually when you buy a car new you get a service warranty on it for a few years which costs extra. Also after that runs out many people continue taking it to the dealership for repairs.
The companies also sell many of the repair parts for the cars. So even after their sold two three or four different people they still make money on it.

Used car dealerships also have to repair and refurbish the cars before they go out.

With video games it's just a revolving door policy.

squallheart5774d ago (Edited 5774d ago )

I as well support this pass as well. I always buy games new and never trade because i like to support the developers.

btw marty used cars did hurt the industry in a way. People were out purchasing used cars while car companies kept flooding the market with new vehicles. In a way, people would buy used more than new and lots were stuck with inventory. In an interview one of the heads of one of the car companies that failed mentioned they shouldnt have produce vehicles just to output the most they could. They should have looked at it from a different perspective like following trends and only producing the amount they believed would sell.

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krisq5774d ago (Edited 5774d ago )

Do you play online with your used car everyday on Ford's servers, for free?

evrfighter5774d ago

if anything it just shows that Gaming has mushroomed into a huge beast that takes every trick in the book to keep fed.

Eventually the downward spiral will come. Right now all the publishers and dev's, console makers are doing all in their power to keep stocks up. that can only last for so long.

krisq5774d ago (Edited 5774d ago )

because I buy my games new. The only thing I'm scared of though, is that it's not that far from subscription based gaming.
Let's face it, Online Pass is happening and we can't do anything about. But once we approve it, they will try yet another payment model. And another, and another... We will be paying on a monthly basis eventually.

gamingdroid5774d ago

What about big families? These online passes only work on one account.

These aren't used game buyers, yet they are getting penalized!

We need to stand up to these companies now that online play is almost half the game.

CDs, DVDs, other software and books don't have issues with used resale media, so why does the gaming industry?

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siyrobbo5774d ago

If they did offer an online pass, it would be good if it was free for + subscribers

Enate5774d ago (Edited 5774d ago )

Ok so you support it blindly but did you even stop to think about all avenues. I have 3 PS3's in my house currently. So that's 20 bucks extra to play on those systems? an that's cool right? Then what about letting a friend borrow a game now they gotta pay for that to. Making quality DLC on a game generates revenue there after a game is sold. The only reason you should feel the need to force something like that is if you know your game doesn't produce quality DLC.

Also what about renting games, now what I gotta rent the game and pay to play 10 to 15 bucks to get online with it to. I'm just saying look at the big picture before you claim its the greatest idea ever. An believe me you don't want to start alienating things like renting. There has been plenty of times where renting a game made me buy it there after. An what if I'm sitting there like well the single player was cool. An then I'm like I'm not sure about the online, I wanted to try it out but I'm not about to throw down money just for that I'll send it back.
I had MWII for a month from gamefly and still ended up buying it new just for example. An it was that time I got to spend with the online that made me realize I wanted to own the game. Not everything takes 7 days so that's not the answer either.

The more restrictions an fees you apply the more cautious your buyer is going to be.

danielle0075774d ago

I don't support this at all.

I buy games new all the time, really. But, I would rather have options, than not have them. Especially since used games sometimes go further down in price more quickly, and they're more easy to find after a long while, because eventually you just stop being able to find a new copy at the GameStops around here.

I just don't like this. I like borrowing games from my friends, I like having the option to buy used if it's all I can find easily, plus sometimes I don't have all the money in the world, and having that used option helps. I'm not perfect, but I think there are lots of other people like me..

Plus.. didn't EA get some flack for doing this? Why is everyone behind this now?

Dramscus5774d ago (Edited 5774d ago )

Good. Lousy used games sellers should be giving the publishers a cut. I'd rather the people that make the game get payed than the people that own the store get payed extra.

This is why I buy all my games brand new from a store. If I don't want to pay full release price I wait a few months till it drops. As I'm presently doing with RDR.

Though my playlist is totally full up anyway of other games I bought day one.

Calm Down Sunshine5774d ago

Change the word Sony to Microsoft and suddenly it's a bad idea.

N4GayFanturds5774d ago

If Sony; did it, said it, pissed & shitted it, it wuld be the best thing since pussy around here!

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0mega45774d ago (Edited 5774d ago )

it would be like double dipping they already force you to pay for live to have access to the online multiplayer which is half of the game you payed for in most cases
so if they additionally forced used players to have live and pay for an online code it would be borderline extortion

at least in my opinion

yet it wouldnt be surprising if microsoft did it.
because they exploit the consumer base all the time
paperitary hardrives where they charge way more than the average going rate per gig
rechargeable batter packs (plug&play)
xbox live required for mulitplayer
slim being leaps and bounds better than original
im not even going to give mention to you know what

milohighclub5774d ago

plus wireless network adaptors + transfer cables

Dramscus5774d ago

It's because everybody knows microsoft is really evil inc.

The real fact of matters is that microsoft is just tainted in many peoples minds because of that lawsuite the us government filed against them for bad business practices and attempting to monopolise their os back in the 90's. The whole thing about making people have internet explorer installed.

Also they've been sued numerous times for violating the privacy of pc users. It just makes a negative corporate image you know.

My thing against them personally is that their business plan from the beginning has been to buy something reliable from another company use it as theres and sell it then buy more reliable thing's from other companies. They've not created one thing in their portfolio. They've not innovated in a single thing ever. They just buy stuff and advertise it.

Dos, lotus notes, hotmail, messenger, their server software, natal, outlook, the look of their operating system. All acquired.

Calm Down Sunshine5774d ago

Whilst I agree with all of that, there's no denying that if it was Microsoft in the headline these comments would be very different.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending Microsoft. In fact I think they're really quite an awful company.

It's just... It wouldn't be N4G unless there was a comment like that, so I felt it was my turn.

Snoogins5774d ago

Nice Tom Waits avatar! I'd have given you a bubble if your comment wasn't such slanted bait.

Nate-Dog5774d ago (Edited 5774d ago )

Edit: Sorry, wrong topic.

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Chromer5774d ago

I understand that Sony wants to make money as it gives a bigger incentive to go out and buy the game new but it's still disheartening to see the state the global economy is that companies would even resort to this in the first place.

Also I bought a Xbox 360 like 20 minutes ago, and I feel kinda queasy. :/

0mega45774d ago (Edited 5774d ago )

& really looking forward to sharing the kinect experience with the family

or you just really really like halo reach because that has to hold you off until gears 3

Ray1865774d ago

Fire-team bravo 3 already has this in place. A Sony first party title.

Snoogins5774d ago

Modnation Racers PSP also sells "online entitlement."

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(For Southeast Asia) New Price Changes for PS5, PS5 Pro, and PlayStation Portal remote player

For Southeast Asia, new price changes.

Prices effective starting May 1st, 2026.

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BeHunted47d ago

Looks like PlayStation took a hit with Marathon and is now quietly adjusting prices worldwide to recover the losses

andy8547d ago

Lets be honest raising prices doesn't do that when no one's buying it. I imagine the profit it greater selling 10 times more at a lower price

Pergele47d ago

Whatever you say buddy, let's all wear the tinfoil hats.

IceKoldKilla47d ago (Edited 47d ago )

LMFAO Your comment alone says a lot more about you than anything else. When has one game not selling 10 million copies made a company raise the prices of their console? Then Xbox would be costing $5000 by now lol. You remind of the crazy drug addicts on the street rambling on about conspiracies. xD You sure you don't need a hug, buddy?

ChunkyMonk47d ago

One game that Sony payed $200 million for. lol
Also, you sure were quick to get triggered. Maybe your the one who needs a hug?

Eonjay47d ago

If nothing else, we should be united against the real issue here. AI and unnecessary tariffs that are effecting all gamers.

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Athlon10147d ago (Edited 47d ago )

The price increases are due to the RAM demand associated with AI and the US-Iran war. You can look to any business news website and local news to see that. Heck, even the 2026 Asus Zenbook Duo I've been eyeing has faced delays and has had a price increase of $400; that laptop has two specs. Asus is doing a staggered release with per-orders for the lower spec now and shipping in May and pre-orders for the higher spec that I'm eyeing starting in June. Basically, all computer manufactures are affected. It'll most likely start affecting smart phones too if it hasn't already. I can't remember the last time any major console maker (Nintendo, Sony, Sega, etc) increased the price of their console mid cycle outside of Microsoft just to make more profit.

S2Killinit46d ago

Its not the war. Its the RAM issue.

jznrpg46d ago

War is causing gas prices to rise. Transport of everything requires gas so the prices of those items go up as well. So it does have an impact

Athlon10146d ago (Edited 46d ago )

The blockage of the Straight of Hormuz due to the US-Iran war has affected raw components used in semi-conductor manufacturing such as bromine, aluminum, and helium. Iran had attacked the liquified natural gas (LNG) plant in Qatar which is a large producer (1/3 globally) of helium which is used in semiconductor etching. So it's the both the war and the RAM crises.

badz14947d ago

Oh no...should I get the Pro now before the price increase?

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Former Xbox Exec Says Developers Didn't Want a Sony Monopoly

Former Xbox executive Ed Fries comments on the early days of Xbox, the opinion of Japanese game companies, and more.

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Reaper22_60d ago

I dont think that'll ever happen. But i must say back in the day, they were definitely trying because they were more cash rich than their competitors.

CosmicTurtle60d ago

I think MS were and still are the richer company. They tried to acquire Sega back in the day (and considered doing so again more recently), they obviously bought exclusivity to Halo which was originally shown as a Mac title. I don’t think as a company MS can claim the moral high ground here. It’s a wilful lack of self awareness.

Of course Sony would try exactly the same if they had the resources, but when the PS2 dominated the industry was in a much healthier place with an abundance of great third parties.

This has been a depressing generation as far as first party decisions are concerned. The fact we are debating business plans rather than which game is better is a sad reflection of the state of things.

Darkseeker60d ago (Edited 60d ago )

There was Nintendo as well, Sony wouldn't have had a monopoly. In fact, the world would be better today if Xbox never existed in the first place. They pretty much brought all bad practices we have today. We might have gotten all of it either way, but not this early. In term of franchises, I don't think there is anything Microsoft released that would actually be missed if it didn't exist. Even Halo the world wouldn't notice if Halo didn't exist.

S2Killinit60d ago

MS was definitely a bad influence on gaming.

raWfodog60d ago

I think almost everyone will agree that a monopoly is not good for the industry. But that being said, the competition needs to be smart and strategic with their business. Simply buying up publishers and traditional third-party studios just to keep them out of the other companies reach is not a sustainable practice. That goes for all parties so don't think I'm just referring to Xbox.

I'm no business guru by any stretch of the imagination but I firmly believe that the best way to drive consumers to your software and hardware is to invest smart in your first-party studios. Give them full support and guidance in making unique, fun games that are only available to play in your ecosystem and the gamers will come.

Reaper22_60d ago (Edited 60d ago )

But first party studios aren't enough. They only make up a small portion of the industry. Without 3rd party there would be no industry for Microsoft or sony.Developing games take time and money and sometimes you gotta make moves to stay competitive.

raWfodog60d ago

Nah, I never said first-party was enough. I said it’s the ‘best way’ to drive gamers to your platform. 3rd-party is a free-for-all and there’s no guarantee that gamers will use your hardware to play the game. If you want to push your own software and/or hardware you need first-party, or at least exclusive deals with third-party studios.

SimpleDad60d ago

They Shure did a great job... 25 years later Xbox is dead.

Reaper22_60d ago

Then why be so emotional and continue to talk about it. Xbox will never die be ause it stays in so many people's head.

lodossrage60d ago

How can you even see him being "emotional" in that comment?

If anything, you're the emotional one, constantly trying to go at anyone that says anything against Microsoft. So when you call him emotional, it comes off as deflection

Elda60d ago

I own an XBSX & I can say it's becoming irrelevant out of the 3 current consoles.

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Sony Shows Off 20 Minutes of Crimson Desert on a Base PS5

Sony uploaded gameplay footage of Crimson Desert on a base PS5 running in what appears to be Quality Mode at a stable 30fps at 4K.

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BlazedKong86d ago

looks god awful on the base systems