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The Covert Nerds Connect with "Kinect"

Ivan of The Covert Nerds discusses in this short prevew his experience with a live demo of Microsoft's Kinect for the Xbox 360. He walks the reader through his entrie experience at the public demo commetning on each individual game he was allowed to play, and then summarizing his experience as a whole.

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Immortal3215742d ago (Edited 5742d ago )

I think kinect is ganna fail, and here's my 2cents.

1.) the xbox360 is recognize as a hardcore gaming system.
2.) anybody in their right minds know MS are competing with sony.

If you seen any kinect demo's you prolly already know that the kinect failed to be one thing. An Xbox! y'know the console that gave birth to Halo! and the founders of halo are not using kinect technology.

WTF MS, who is this the kinect for? why are you bringing such an alien species to your console? A console that mostly have M rated games.

jeez! your fanbase cries out, "Gamplay over Graphics"
they're buying xbl every year, 3months, and a month.
they don't care for blu-ray, they like your quality product MS.

WTF MS! why aren't you working with what you got

cliffbo5741d ago

yes, but Sony are catering for hardcore, core and casual gamers. so it's not really 'just like Sony'

Immortal3215741d ago

sony's casuals and MS casuals games?

Lord_Doggington5742d ago

He was impressed with the technology, but wasn't impressed with the demos.

Fair enough.

Agent-865742d ago (Edited 5742d ago )

Isn't that basically the problem: The promises of Natal versus the reality that has become Kinect. To make the technology cheaper, MS took out its processing chip which meant relying on a software solution that increased the lag. To further cut the cost, they also reduced the resolution of the main camera, so it became impossible to track fine wrist or finger movements. As a result, you have a device that is probably destined to be for casual gamers only and unfulfilled promises for the core audience.

Lord_Doggington5742d ago

Agent, I repeat, he was IMPRESSED with the technology and wasn't impressed with the demos.

Biggest5742d ago

But here is the kicker. What good is technology if there is nothing to show it? The demos aren't just some random games thrown together for the purpose of having a game. They're supposed to give you an idea of what the technology can do for your gaming experience. If you're bored and unimpressed with the demo, you're also bored and unimpressed with the presented technology.

rroded5742d ago

Untill they do i say epic fail.

cliffbo5741d ago

that's stupid though. how can you be impressed by the tech but not the games? it's the same as saying the picture on my TV is rubbish but i like the tech

playstation_clan5742d ago (Edited 5742d ago )

i disconnected with kinect and MOVED on

EDIT: @dchalfont- i will

Nihilism5742d ago

You have 1 bubble for a reason, keep up the good work.

ChronoJoe5742d ago (Edited 5742d ago )

I still think what he said was witty though... so I bubbled under intelligent.

eggbert5742d ago

I've seen that phrase, or some rendition of that phrase at least a dozen times.

ChronoJoe5742d ago

Yeah maybe... nevermind anywho. He'll never have more than one bubble if he's forever trolling.

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el zorro5742d ago

PS3 fans sure do love to troll Kinect articles.

That out of the way, I'll say I like the technology and I think it has some great upcoming content for casual gamers, but they still need to show us hardcore gamers that it can be useful to us.

btk5741d ago

Actually it is because XBox fans seems to be hiding on the Kinect articles. PS3 fans having a ball commenting on the mess.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio12d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing11d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9211d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit11d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing11d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9211d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay13d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn214d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn213d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown14d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay13d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay13d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac13d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger14d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300014d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde14d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde13d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7515d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_13d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.