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Why Move Will See PS3 Win The Console War

NowGamer: It might be hardcore gamers that care most about which hardware manufacturer wins each console generation, but ultimately it’s the casual market that will decide it. The PS2 has continued to sell since the PS3 launch, shifting a cool 25 million units in that time, whereas Xbox sales effectively halted at just under 25 million with the release of the 360...

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outrageous5738d ago (Edited 5738d ago )

It's over before it even started for Sony this gen. The new machines are being spec-ed as we speak...Sony blew it.

M$ is the big winner this gen even if they didn't sell another console starting today...lol. XBL is the envy of the world leaving the little Asian guys scratching there heads. XBL has generated over a BILLION dollars...how much has PSN or Nintendo on line generated???. Many analysts have said Kinect will be huge this holiday as will the new Xbox. M$ has there big hitters coming in Halo and Fable...C'mon now, M$ is laughing all the way to the bank. Some say M$ could jump ahead of Sony by 10+ million.

What " IF " Kinect drags half the Wii casuals over for a peak...Hmmmm....Ubi-soft Your Shape is far superior to the mega selling Wii Fit and Ubi-softs other title called Fighters uncaged looks awesome. Kinectanimals is as cute as Nintendogs and could sell millions. MTV's Dance central...LMFAO...it could very well be a blood bath in M$ favor this holiday.

Sony's one saving life line could be 3D gaming " if " it takes off. The price and glasses could unfortunately derail the whole thing.

Here's another Kinect EXCLUSIVE LAUNCH title...Ubi's Fighter Uncaged

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Chromer5738d ago

because your asinine theory is truly outrageous. New machines are being spec-ed? Sony and Nintendo aren't generating money online? 360's gimmicky Your Shape is going to beat out Wii Fit? I'm sorry but you have to be the blindest and most idiotic 360 fanboy I've come across. I thought trolls like Cez, Sak500, etc. were bad but you take the cake.

Unplug your computer, throw it out of the nearest window, and go to bed. You're done for the night. It's time to stop posting.

DigitalRaptor5738d ago (Edited 5738d ago )

Financially, maybe, but really what will the 360 be remembered for?

I see it as a device slowly becoming more and more redudant - it's value dimishing with each timed-exclusive they lose and the more focus they take away from core gaming.

Halo, Gears, Fable, Forza. That is pretty much all I can see, and those aren't even the best games in their genres.

Third party isn't working for them anymore. The console is dying and they're using Kinect as some sort of life-support method.

PS3 will secure the second place mark this generation and will be remembered for it's quality software, services, the innovations Sony put through into their games and the surprising and commendable turnaround in both success and perception that the PS3 has seen.

M$ has offered barely anything worth remembering the 360 for, besides making online gaming on consoles more prominent.

If anyone's gonna bag on Sony's success, then they should at least consider MS's decline. Only on the downside of its lifecycle can you really appreciate where they have gone wrong.

darkcharizard5738d ago (Edited 5738d ago )

Nintendo Wii has clearly won the 7th generation war, already. Wii's lifetime sales nearly double that of PS3's.

Also, PS3 shows no sign of outselling the Wii on a weekly, monthly or yearly basis worldwide. Heck, it hasn't even been able to catch up with Xbox 360!

And stop disagreeing butthurt fanboys! These are facts!

Sony should cleverly design and market PS4 if they want to win the next war.

Nihilism5738d ago

Shh.

Here's how it works on N4G.

The Wii sells x amount of console's per week.

The other consoles sell less each week, so it's only natural that the other one's will catch up.

Wait what.

Moral of the story, the others will never catch the Wii, this title's claim is fanboy maths.

SuperMassiveGav5738d ago

This title's claim is based on the well-founded idea that the market is about to change dramatically and that current sales trends are unlikely to prevail.

Nihilism5738d ago

For the other console's to catch the wii they will need to outsell the wii by as much as the wii has outsold them for the past 4 years aka it's never going to happen.

Even if PS3's sales increased 100% and the wii's stayed as they are...if would still take what...6 years to catch up?

insomnium5738d ago (Edited 5738d ago )

Once again your way of thinking is that of MSs and their fanboys.

What do you think about this next thing I'm about to say? Think carefully and give me your best reply. OK here it comes:

What do you thing waht'll happen when the PS3 is available at 200€? 150€? 100€? Do you have any idea how much steam the PS3 still has? I doubt the Wii will be able to hang along the next 8 years or so. I just don't see that.

Your point revolves around the thought that everything will remain the same always from this point on and that is just plain idiotic don't you think.

PS3 will sell over 100 million. You can count on that.

Nihilism5738d ago

I see you are still following me insomnium, you are also on ignore so I don't have to read your insane comments anymore :D

insomnium5738d ago (Edited 5738d ago )

You really shouldn't flatter yourself. It's your stupidity and negativity that draws the comments you are receiving. I've seen people replying to you other than myself.

Just like I thought though. No reply. You never give any rational replies other than your own negativity. That's the only place you look into when you sign into n4g. You should be careful what you wish for if you can't take the heat. The replies you recieve in general draws a clear picture here really. Yea sure I'm insane ok. I'm going to return to you when all is said and done this gen. Let's see who's the insane one.

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Narutone665738d ago

consider Wii in direct competition with PS2 and original Xbox. It's not HD, it's like 2 Gamecubes duct taped together.

Yue95738d ago

that nintendo is kicking both there asses and the wii is outselling the 360 and ps3 combined but all these fools want are ghaphic and power but graphic and power doesn't make a good game people just need to face the fact that nintendo is the clear winner this time around and they have to deal with it no matter how many times they whine like little babys..

WLPowell5738d ago

I'm sure it also has sold more units than the PS3 and 360, and it too is a seventh generation console, but it also sits around collecting dust in tens of millions of households...

The PS3 won with real gamers. The wii and the 360 won with "sales" fanboys.

Omega45738d ago (Edited 5738d ago )

How is Move cheaper for a causal/any new owner than Kinect?

Move bundle = $400
Kinect bundle = $300

If you guys seriously believe Move can cause a sales spike for the PS3 you need to open your eyes. It will sell to the hardcore but the casuals won't touch it when they can get the same experiences on the Wii for half the price.

With less than a month to go Move has literally no hype and is topping no charts. N4G opinions mean nothing in the real world.

@Fishy Fingers
Well I wouldn't have to keep repeating it if the same articles stating the same thing weren't posted over and over. Obviously I will have bragging rights in due course, but I'm trying to make it less painful for the PS3 fanboys on this site by telling them how unlikely it is Move will succeed to move consoles.

@jack_burt0n
1. Its £34.99
2. If they don't own a PS3 thats not all they will see. They will see £34 + £250.

Fishy Fingers5738d ago

Dude, let it lie, you write the same thing over and over and like you said N4G opinions mean very little, that includes yours. If your so confident, just come back in a few months and enjoy bragging. But it gets tiresome reading the same thing.

jack_burt0n5738d ago

omega all ppl see is move = £29.99 that is all that matters.

Hellsvacancy5738d ago

"but I'm trying to make it less painful for the PS3 fanboys on this site by telling them how unlikely it is Move will succeed to move consoles" WHAT? your bananas buddy, what makes u think ANY PS3 "fanboi" cares what u hav 2 say?

CrazyForGames5738d ago (Edited 5738d ago )

"what makes u think ANY PS3 "fanboi" cares what u hav 2 say?"

uh how about the fact that your all actually REPLYING lol

Biggest5738d ago

I reply to him because it's fun. What he says does not change the choices I make about gaming. He supports the new Harry Potter rollercoaster game. He also supports the cartoon version of The Fight: Stand Still Or It Won't Work. Trust me. No one is changing their choices because of what he says.

jack_burt0n5738d ago

£27.85 @ shopto.net :) actually and the nav is £17.99 @ play.com

Games4M - Rob5738d ago

Thats the cheapest ive seen so far, ive just pre-ordered. Thanks for the info man.

ATLGAMER5738d ago (Edited 5738d ago )

Just add a HDD and Xbox live,,, 450.....

WLPowell5738d ago

and 60 dollar game... 510.

Scotland-The-Brave5738d ago

The move has loads of hype! Look at the games you can play with move HARDCORE and CASUAL. Now compare that to kinect which is just shit. There are literally no games for kinect worth being hyped for, harry potter and a dancing game lol. PS move has Killzone, socom, heavy rain, resident evil, mag etc.

LogicalFanboy5738d ago

$400 PS3/Move is gonna sel like hell. wit 320GB HDD alone is gonna bring alot of ppl attention to dat bundle. u have to understand value for money is wat ppl go after. ppl GLADLY bought 80GB PS3s for $400 a 320GB PS3 wit Move is gonna sell quite well!

also, if u believe Kinect can cause a sales spike for the 360, you need to open your eyes. a $300 ARCADE system is gonna flopp like hell. how can M$ expect to appeal to da casual market for da same price they appeal to da core market. xbots like u & M$ need to understand VALUE in a product because $300 for a 4GB system dat hardly offers anything to casuals is not so appealing

mastiffchild5738d ago

@Omega-My family might have wanted Kinect(had there been better games for it than we're seeing now and better consistency of performance) but it died for them the moment my 8 year old saw that it was only two player maximum and I think the same will be true of other families who will either back out because of this or sack it soon after because of it.

The big seller for the Wii wasn't JUST the motion controls but , largely, the local multiplayer options for a ton of their casual games. The whole family were playing together and, and this is where price doesn't come into it anyway, we all saw how important this was with mum and dad average buying their Wiis with four or five sets of 'motes and 'chucks. Why would they want to go back to half the family(at least-in my case two thirds)sitting out, kids moaning and fighting over who s next etc. The big worry is people will assume it HAS four or five players because Wii and move do and when people realise it hasn't some will feel ripped off by gaming(not necessarily MS)and be turned off gaming as a con for good.

So, your carefully chosen number two is half the problem here as if I wanted the whoe family playing Kinect(or four for arguments sake) I'd need another 360,Kinect and TV and a bigger house to boot.

Anyway, it's a point I'm not too sure counts when I've seen so much ploughed into Wii gaming by so called casuals just setting up. Move and Kinect are both priced competitively but the weakness of having just two possible players might bite MS, and maybe gaming itself, on the arse. Sure, Kinect should outsell Move at launch because it's been marketed much better and is more novel to those without much gaming knowledge but the paucity of decent games(even the casual ones aren't as good as the comp on Wii and Move)and the touchy nature of the tech actually performing allied to the two player issue might see it becoming an expensive paperweight pretty fast.

I like the tech but don't think it's ready for market or there'd be more players, better performance and more and better games for it. I'd advise anyone thinking to wait a while before buying Kinect as well. Too early for me to say it will be great or crap overall but I've not seen signs of much progress since the more ambitious showing LAST year so go figure.

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BeaArthur5738d ago

I'm really interested to see how many people actually adopt this. I'm sure it destroys the Wii mote but I'm still not certain it's going to be as popular as everyone thinks.

Boody-Bandit5738d ago (Edited 5738d ago )

Who is everyone?

I don't recall see many, if any, articles claiming Move would be the most popular. Nor do I recall seeing many, again if any, PS fan claiming it as well. All I have seen from all sides (Sony, consumers and media) saying is it would be the most precise motion controls that will cater to both the casual and hardcore gamers.

a08andan5738d ago

We can undoubtebly agree that Sony’s conference was the most impressive one at gamescom yesterday. After seeing more of the Playstation move it got me thinking. But before I start, let me point out that this is NOT meant to be seen as a fanboy piece. This is simply a piece about the potential in Sonys ps3 with the move and the Playstation 4. When I hear nice stuff from MS I will post something similar about the Xbox and its future.

A few months ago I read about Sony filing a patent for stereoscopic splitscreen. Clarification: Stereoscopic 3D requires glasses. You may argue that the 3D technology that require glasses is not here to stay but that is not what I see. Stereoscopic splitscreen makes it possible to play multiplayer for 2 people on the same TV without dividing the screen in two and get a window with half the size of your TV. Just that alone is impressive. I don’t see this coming to ps3 but I thinks its very possible that this will be a part of the ps4 at launch. You may think that’s all this technology can do, but if u think about it that’s only the tip of the iceberg.

This technology will also make it possible to watch two DIFFERENT movies at the same time on the same TV. It will also be possible to play two different games at once, for example if you feel like playing an RPG and your friend/lover/husband/wife/what ever wants to play a racing game, this will be possible without the need of another TV+console.
And this is truly awesome. The technology is amazing and Sony will make it work very well.
But it doesn’t end there. I’m very sure that the Playstation Move will be perfected even more over the years and be released together in some sort of bundle with the ps4. What will all this do for gaming?

It will take the co-op two a whole new level. You will no longer need to be in the same area as the other player, but it doesn’t end there.

Imagine a game much like Age of Empires or whatever. One of the players plays in an age that is, let’s say, a 1000 years before the age that the other player is playing in. What the first player does will affect the second player in real time. For example, imagine the first player digging out a cave in his age. The cave will then appear in the second player’s age perhaps filled with computer-generated items and monsters or whatever. Imagine how it will be working together in a game like that. It would be truly awesome. Or imagine the competition it could bring. The two players will not see each other’s screen, but may still compete and affect each other. For example, the second player builds a castle on a hill. The first player destroys that hill in his age making the castle in the second player’s age collapse. The first player will not see that the second player has built a castle there of course. This is pretty much like a very, very advanced version of “Sink the battleship” or whatever it’s called.

Thinking about the potential in this makes me very excited. The only bad thing is that it has made me horny, and now I want sex :(

Bubs up if u agree and enjoyed the reading :)

Honest_gamer5738d ago

I’m impressed a good comment on n4g!!!!! To bad you will soon have hundreds of disagrees and be reduced to one bubble for saying that but its true, the move AND 3D have a whole lot of potential ok imagine an RPG umm oblivion for example in 3D using the move to attack/defend not THAT would be awesome

a08andan5738d ago

Ye I thought of that^^ But they cannot reduce me to any less than 1 bubble so I can atleast post 1 good thing on each article :)
And tnx, I really appreciate it :)

Bubs up for you my friend :)

AK465738d ago

Nice read.

It would be cool if Sony got stereoscopic screen sharing to work on the PS4. We can say bye to the 2 player split screen and hello screen sharing. What about the audio though? they would have to split it somehow.

a08andan5738d ago

As far as I have understood from reading about this technology is that the glasses you will be using will also work as headphones so you will hear the sound from your screen and the other player from his/her screen :)

It all sounds so nice and I am really looking forward to getting my hands on that technology :)

Now my bubs are out! *sad face* :)

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio4d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing4d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster924d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit4d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing4d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster924d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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(For Southeast Asia) New Price Changes for PS5, PS5 Pro, and PlayStation Portal remote player

For Southeast Asia, new price changes.

Prices effective starting May 1st, 2026.

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BeHunted7d ago

Looks like PlayStation took a hit with Marathon and is now quietly adjusting prices worldwide to recover the losses

andy857d ago

Lets be honest raising prices doesn't do that when no one's buying it. I imagine the profit it greater selling 10 times more at a lower price

Pergele6d ago

Whatever you say buddy, let's all wear the tinfoil hats.

IceKoldKilla6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

LMFAO Your comment alone says a lot more about you than anything else. When has one game not selling 10 million copies made a company raise the prices of their console? Then Xbox would be costing $5000 by now lol. You remind of the crazy drug addicts on the street rambling on about conspiracies. xD You sure you don't need a hug, buddy?

ChunkyMonk6d ago

One game that Sony payed $200 million for. lol
Also, you sure were quick to get triggered. Maybe your the one who needs a hug?

Eonjay6d ago

If nothing else, we should be united against the real issue here. AI and unnecessary tariffs that are effecting all gamers.

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Athlon1017d ago (Edited 7d ago )

The price increases are due to the RAM demand associated with AI and the US-Iran war. You can look to any business news website and local news to see that. Heck, even the 2026 Asus Zenbook Duo I've been eyeing has faced delays and has had a price increase of $400; that laptop has two specs. Asus is doing a staggered release with per-orders for the lower spec now and shipping in May and pre-orders for the higher spec that I'm eyeing starting in June. Basically, all computer manufactures are affected. It'll most likely start affecting smart phones too if it hasn't already. I can't remember the last time any major console maker (Nintendo, Sony, Sega, etc) increased the price of their console mid cycle outside of Microsoft just to make more profit.

S2Killinit6d ago

Its not the war. Its the RAM issue.

jznrpg6d ago

War is causing gas prices to rise. Transport of everything requires gas so the prices of those items go up as well. So it does have an impact

Athlon1016d ago (Edited 6d ago )

The blockage of the Straight of Hormuz due to the US-Iran war has affected raw components used in semi-conductor manufacturing such as bromine, aluminum, and helium. Iran had attacked the liquified natural gas (LNG) plant in Qatar which is a large producer (1/3 globally) of helium which is used in semiconductor etching. So it's the both the war and the RAM crises.

badz1496d ago

Oh no...should I get the Pro now before the price increase?

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay6d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn27d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn26d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown7d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay6d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay6d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac6d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger7d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster30007d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde7d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde6d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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