The Mac PCs are easier to use. More reriable, faster, don't crash randomly for nothing. no buggy OS releasing.

Finally MAC are getting the repsect they deserve they are better then Normal PC in every aspect except for gaming which the new macs change that with DX10 compatiblity.

I ordered the new 24" imac... it is not for gaming (has a crappy graphics card), but I am a fan of the ilife and iwork software. This is a true "family" computer... it is the best for pictures and movies (I need to get an HD camcorder).

Unless they realased a cheaper version and introduce some kind of wand instead of the mouse for it and give it away Isports for free :P

I remember going to school and all thier was, were apple computers. They were advertising apple computers on us from young ages!!! so I quess we would grow up and say we want a apple comp.(But this comps broke down because they coun't handle being on 24/7) But I wonder how thier now
This reminds me of the movie "Pirates of silicon bay " . You people should check it out its a really good movie.

Still not a gamers' computer. Ista-fail.

I see this more of a problem to linux than it is to Microsoft.... Linux is the one that suppost to be destroying Microsoft/windows... not apple... as matter of fact even if Apple's installbase grows.. microsoft have investing in apple... if I am not mistaken they even own shares... and make software for MAC...
Mac becoming more appealing to the end user.. is just another reason why not to use linux...

$1,199 is still too much. they have to get down to the $500-$700.00 range before they make a huge difference.

There's no way Apple is going to try to hit mainstream PC's head-on. They have their core audience, and they have their strengths in publishing and digital imaging.

It is going to take more than adding a spreadsheet package to a productivity suite, that's for sure. Until there is an even amount of entertainment software available Mac's and PC's the PC is going to maintain its dominance in the marketplace. It's definitely not a Windows versus MacOS thing any more.

Other than DTP/design where do you see makes in the real business world beside the odd one or two cases. Nowhere. Why is that?
PC's have the best development environment - Visual Studio.
I dont care what system I write on but Macs do not inspire development hence smaller returns on writing stuff i.e its harder.
And that filters down to schools and colleges and more importantly home users.
Dont get me wrong - final cut pro is brilliant for video editing but MACS for development.. its pretty poor. hence 2 guys in a backroom can develop a PC game and make a difference..
Backroom development is what made the UK and US have such a boom in producing gamers thanks to the spectrum and commodore. And atm Macs are way behind.
Side note... why bother with either office application.. Open office works fine.

but in 5, 10, 15 yrs if Mac's owned a 50% market share with both M$ & Apple locked in fierce competition I would be very happy about it. -That only means both will be pushing each other and "I" get to choose which computer is "better" for ME. "Come on Apple give 'em hell!"

Apple doesn't need to kick M$ where it hurts. The 360 is already doing that for them......AAAHHAHAHA

is so popular is because they have a monolopy over the whole computer industry. Shame too, I can go to 20 different automakers and get a bunch of different cars and when I want a computer I have two options. I have a crappy PC and I loathe PC gaming so I may be picking up a Mac in the near future. The Mac OS kills anything Mircosoft could ever make.

Typical Apple. Putting out this squeaky clean blank white image to sell us overpriced idiotproof hardware. I'd rather build my own cheap PC and buy expensive antivirus software and OS software than buy a £1000 PC from Mac.
Meanwhile they can kick us with their Fascist "anti-piracy" systems. So we end up paying twice as much for a music track that might not play if you don't own a apple mp3 player. Then they can control how we listen to music.

Okay, Microsoft doesn't make PCs, so the 1199 price point is not relevant to Microsoft. As for their office suite, cool competition is always good. Besides if it is not compatible with office by Microsoft then it will fail. However if it is, good we all win.

Either way, this is simply business, I don't know why one sees this as "Apple Kicking Microsoft Where it Hurts". Someone needs to get over their pointless hate for MS.

PC > Mac, well xp is a hackers choice, thats why i have my old computer, and people complain about pc getting so many viruses my take on that, odds are that if you get a virus you were looking at porn sites or something else illegal, and if macs are getting more popular then the hackers will switch over to mac

Have any of you used iWork? Checked out the videos of the new/upgraded apps? It makes MS Office look pathetic, and it's only $79!

Apple has been gaining market share in the PC world at an unprecedented rate, partially on the back of the iPods popularity.

I work at small business, 43 employees. When I started they wouldn't even think of using Macs. Now, two years later, a third of the company is using Mac laptops with plans to convert the whole company over time. So don't think they don't have a place in the business world.

I know that Macs don't appeal to a lot of folks on N4G - you'd rather build your own gaming PC. But I think we should praise the fact that they make solid, good-looking, easy-to-use products when so much of what's out there isn't that at all.

A lot of people are converting over to Macs due to ease of use, high performance, and an OS that is significantly more secure/reliable than Windows. What’s been holding the majority of PC users, including myself, from moving over is that a lot of software just isn’t compatible with Macs. Luckily this is starting to change, and the introduction of Office Software that is directly comparable, or even superior, to Microsoft’s offerings is a very big development.

Office Suite is basically the only software that Microsoft is even popular for (Excel ROCKS!), but the improvements between each version have been less than noticeable. Apple is known for putting a lot of work into aesthetics, so I’m sure their Office Suite will be impressive. And hey, if it keeps Microsoft on their toes then maybe they’ll end up making significant improvements to their products.

I may buy one somewhere down the road but I'll stick to my PC for now because of the games and P2P filesharing. I'm not sure if MACs allow P2P filesharing.

this time.

After all, they are using the same inners as the PCs.

They offer a better value software wise (including the OS)

Supposedly this time around ATI and Nvidia have their own API set that allows developers to do things that DirectX usually has done. This could be a boost to both Apple and Linux (unless Linux shoots themselves in the foot for not allowing closed source API). Now there is a way to make great games without relying on OpenGL or DirectX.

Of course, developers would have to like working with the API for all this to work - but the possibility is there.

Apple also gives better software saving to businesses when it comes to user licenses. However, the BIG place Apple is stingy on is Bulk order discounting on the Hardware side - they don't give much.

BUT, Apple does put the love in their machines. If you ever used a more modern Mac you notice the quality of the product compared to a Dell or HP.

Linux is pretty good too, but often times their Pig Headedness gets in the way as well as lack of a common standards slows its adoption amoung the Desktop world. Linux is about freedom and choice, sometimes TOO many choices is bad - especially since a lot of them are not binary compatible with each other.

Apple's approach to software and hardware is very artistic by nature. It not only has to look good it has to feel good too.

People often say things like Market Share, Market Share but I believe Apple doesn't really want that mantel with their computers. They want to remain the niche computer much like the niche sports cars of today.

jesus christ. what is it with all the hate on this site? look. i have a very nice desktop pc but i also own a macbook (which i'm typing on right now). originally i would not have purchased the mac, but due to being a digital art major, a lot of the programs i'm required to use and have been trained on at my college are mac only (final cut pro for example). I used to hate macs, but i ended up buying this laptop last winter and i freekin love it. it has been so useful. its a very nice computer and i have had no hardware problems at all. I would not have become a mac owner if not for necessity, but for the $1200 i paid for this damn thing, i've got every penny's worth. i use it everyday.
bottom line: who the hell cares if Microsoft has a decent competitor in the mid-high range market? its about damn time considering how dependent this culture has become to windows. besides, if you want a cheepo refurbished computer, dell would be more than happy to oblige.

there are things i cannot do on a mac that i have to do on a pc, and vice versa.
in the end, like games consoles, if you own one of each, you can do or have access to anything you want.

I just wanna ask a question to people who say you can get a computer for much cheaper? Can you get a 24" monitor with great resolution plus your computer and iLife suite (itunes, iphoto, etc. much better than the crap you get on windows) for cheaper than 1199? Also not to mention no spyware and adware which will get on your computer regardless if your on a porn site or not. Before you blast apple and what they are doing in the computer market, take a step back and see what they are actually offering for that supposed ridiculous price of 1199.

I decided to stop PC games and just play 360 games so I don't really need a high end PC anymore. And the new iMac looks so goddamn good that I actually might buy one soon.

I've had it with Windows.

Tell me again how the multiplatform strategy was supposed to fix everything. Look at your results and compare them to Nintendo, which keeps thriving with exclusives. Your loyal fans are gone. And let’s not forget the pile of IPs you purchased only to let them rot.

The worst thing is this is down from last years numbers/expectations which was down from the previous years numbers/expectations. You think about how long “down” has been a consistent part of the communication and you realize those subscriptions are what’s holding that boat together. The price cut of gamespass is still a price raise in a string of price raises. They are trying to use players to offset the missing revenue. Now call of duty is out of gamespass, which is literally WHY they bought the company. To draw people to the subscription. They realized they missed a boatload of money and that wasn’t sustainable. Now you pay for it like you would have if they never bought the company… so why buy the company? Mind you those billions still need to be paid back. Yeah it gives you a chance to say we make the biggest FPS… but the internal conversations must be brutal at high level on topics that really matter. Like revenue. Profitability. And ROI for the shopping spree.

Is this like the 10th quarter in a row they're down 33% on hardware how is that even mathematically possible. You would think their mediocrity would Plateau