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How Far Can You Stretch A "Console Exclusive"?

PlayStrum writes: "This generation, being the most mainstream generation in our history to date, has been victim to some real growing pains. Subjects have been brought up that have always shown to be present in previous generations, but somehow, it manages to turn to it's ugly side because of the over-abundance of blogs, websites, podcasts and YouTube videos spread out and publicized on the giant stage we call the internet. Of the many arguments between different communities that get blown out of proportion, the fight about what exclusive really means got major attention."

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Otheros005781d ago

Platforms: pc, xbox360, xbox, psone, ps2, ps3, wii, gamecube, 3ds, DS, PSP, gameboy, nintendo, supernintendo, n64, gameboy, dreamcast, saturn, etc.

TheTeam065781d ago (Edited 5781d ago )

True that. Why do the 360s or PS3s get to call a game on multiple platforms exclusives? What makes Mass Effect a console exclusive and not a PC exclusive?

Truth is, it's neither. It's a multiplatform title no matter which way you look at it. Why? Because it's on multiple platforms.... same goes for any console/pc combo game IMO.

FamilyGuy5781d ago

from article:

"The PlayStation crowd - although a bit different - still feel the need to grow exceptions to the rule. They don't see games released on PS3 and PC as exclusives, but they do see PS3 and PSP games as exclusives in some instances. For example, LittleBigPlanet and ModNation Racers are apparently PlayStation 3 exclusives despite releasing on the PlayStation Portable system. Sure, the PSP version is slightly different, but is that enough to call it a different game for a different platform?"

Are you kidding me? If they game isn't the same game as it's counter-part it ISN'T the same game, ie it IS an exclusive. What psp game is the same as a PS3 game of the same title?

vsr5781d ago

they should notify to consumers. otherwise unaware consumers will waste their money

BuIIetproofish_5781d ago (Edited 5781d ago )

Left 4 Dead, Mass Effect and DC Universe are not exclusives.

Darkstorn5781d ago (Edited 5781d ago )

Neither is Halo (the first and second games, at least).

EDIT: Nor is Gears of War, come to think of it.

RememberThe3575781d ago

I think is pisses fanboys off because they can't use it in the war. But I don't like timed console exclusives. That is just annoying.

AssassinHD5781d ago (Edited 5781d ago )

I mind the term because it contradicts the very meaning of "exclusive".

I mean think about it for just two seconds.

"CNN exclusive" means "exclusive to CNN"

"Burger King exclusive" means "exclusive to Burger King"

"PC exclusive" means "exclusive to PC"

"Console exclusive", taken literally, means "exclusive to console".

^^^

See how the term "console exclusive" just does not make sense? It especially does not make sense when you consider that "console exclusives" are available on non-console hardware.

The term is an insult to the English language.

Red Dead Redemption is a title that most closely fits the literal definition of "console exclusive", being a title that is only available on console hardware. There is no need to use the term even in that case though because "multiplatform" is a term that is more appropriate.

Yostoner5781d ago

Here's the thing, lots of people like to think that since pc is microsoft, that any game that's for pc and 360 are exclusives, when in reality it doesn't work that way. i own all 3 consoles, but i usually buy my multi platform games on ps3 (better hardware)

jaosobno5781d ago

Unlike microsoft that has 100% identical game on 360 and PC and then calls it exclusive, sony doesn't port little big planet and modnation racers on PSP and then calls it exclusive. Those are separately developed games since PSP is nowhere near as powerful as PS3. So putting sony in this story makes no sense. After all, they didn't call The Agency a PS3 exclusive since is a PC game too.

Calling multiplatform games exclusives is microsoft's invention used to compensate for low quality of real 360 exclusives. This trend is also known as false advertising.

52pickup5781d ago

Even the DC Universe Online boxart doesn't carry the "Only on Playstation" logo,whereas in the past several 360 exclusives which have either been available on PC or eventually found there way onto PS3 do carry the "Only on XBOX 360" logo.

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay33d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn234d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers33d ago (Edited 33d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn233d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown33d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos33d ago (Edited 33d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay33d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay33d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac33d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger33d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300033d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde33d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood33d ago (Edited 33d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde33d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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44% of games industry professionals have considered leaving the industry as a result of redundancies

New report from Skillsearch found that 22% of those surveyed had been laid off within the past 12 months.

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Cockney43d ago

Well if that 44% left im sure there would be a lot less redundancies

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Stop Killing Games on the latest European Commission public hearing

It's a step forward for Stop Killing Games.

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