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Xbox 360 4GB Kinect bundle pre-order sales rocket

Advanced sales for Microsoft Corp.’s new Xbox 360 4GB bundle that includes the Kinect motion controller and game rocketed in demand upon availability at retailer Amazon.com.

The Xbox 360 4GB with Kinect bundle ranked No. 1 in Amazon’s Movers & Shakers division and No. 76 in the Video Games division Tues.

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SupaGamer5784d ago (Edited 5784d ago )

Well, they get publicity and a sales for push releasing a title that solves most of the original 360's problems.

And they get more publicity and a push for releasing something different- Kinect.

Even if Kinect fails this is providing microsoft with a boost they needed and wouldn't have had if Kinect didn't exist.

King_of _the_Casuals5784d ago (Edited 5784d ago )

I can't wait!!!

On a side note, has anyone noticed how so many hates are bashing on Kinect, yet it just keeps on climbing the sales charts. And what's that saying, "Any publicity is good publicity." Just look at the N4G wall. Every other article is about Kinect. Poor Sony MOVE only gets mentioned when it's compared to Kinect.

So while the haters keep hating, MS seems like it will be raking in the cash with this one.

Anon19745784d ago

Someone want to point me to where Amazon charts were suddenly an accurate measure of how well a product is going to perform when it's released. I must have missed that memo.

"Wii's tops Amazon charts! Now Move tops the charts! Now new 360 tops the charts! Now the 360 Wi-Fi adapter tops the charts!"

Seriously?

-Alpha5784d ago (Edited 5784d ago )

:"Someone want to point me to where Amazon charts were suddenly an accurate measure of how well a product is going to perform when it's released."

I'm not sure if anyone is saying that exactly, but it's surprising to see that Kinect is "rocketing" for pre-orders.

It's why I'm really up in the air with Kinect. I know core gamers, and especially people on N4G wont support it, but I wonder how casuals will see it. They are a very unpredictable bunch, and judging from this article title Kinect is getting a nice boost in pre-orders.

I still doubt the product's performance, but as for sales, anything could happen. I doubt it will beat Wii, but surely it will sell at least one copy.

I think MS estimates 3 million by the end of the year. I am doubtful of that, but the marketing techniques and the appeal to these casuals gamers can make the product go anywhere.

King_of _the_Casuals5784d ago

Correction....the Move has never topped the Amazon chart. If you're gonna argue, at least try to argue with some facts.

Biggest5784d ago

"So while the haters keep hating, MS seems like it will be raking in the cash with this one."

And you'll be wondering "Where did my money go? This camera is just as bad as it was in Macy's."

doG_beLIEfs5784d ago

Different than this?

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

perhaps this?

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

maybe you meant this?

http://www.kungfulivegame.c...

Other than the 3d aspect (which btw Move fixes and excels at much better than Kinect) there is IMO no difference in what Kinect is from the PS2 eyetoy or the PS3 eye.

randomwiz5784d ago (Edited 5784d ago )

I don't think Kinect's going to fail. This thing is definetly going to sell. It might be unpopular with the current 360 hardcore crowd, but it does whats its aimed to do, get the casual crowd. I don't think any of us are going to like its because its clearly being made a casual only device, but everyone's who's played it says its fun no matter how stupid you look, and thats all the casuals care about.

How many people would've thought Just Dance would sell well and be so fun?

gallospqra5784d ago (Edited 5784d ago )

do sales/prices mean quality/superiority?

just because a product sells doesn't mean it's good.

more than 50% of internet users still use Internet Explorer. It's the most used browser, yet everyone with the tiniest experience knows that IE is PURE CRAP!

Same thing applies to videogames. Kinect is selling? Good for Microsoft. Does it mean Kinect is "the best"? NO WAY.

kissmeimgreek5784d ago

The more a product sells, the more devs will support it and be willing to take more risks. As the kinect community grows you will see newer and more riskier ideas from devs since they have a greater chance at making a profit. thats why you dont see many hardcore games on kinect right now or much variety. KINECT WILL LIVE OR DIE ON SALES.

msbabie200345784d ago

"Someone want to point me to where Amazon charts were suddenly an accurate measure of how well a product is going to perform when it's released. I must have missed that memo."

it started with the sony fanboys on n4g when the ps3 slim was "at the top of amazon charts" you yourself used amazon as indication of the sells of it and the ps3 price cut last august.

i made the comment then, that amazon didn't really mean a whole hell of a lot, and got disagreed with and my bubbles disintegrated in that same thread. if i had it book marked, i'd be on happy nagger. but go ahead and disagree with me and act like that didn't happen.

KingME5784d ago (Edited 5784d ago )

What is it about Kinect, that has PS3 fans in an uproar. If they don't own a 360 then Kinect is a non issue for them, yet they B!tch and whine about it ALL THE TIME.

Being that they hate 360 gamers with a passion, why do they care that 360 gamers are being ripped off by Microsoft?

Yet they constantly Troll Kinect threads and add salty comments.

Could it be some ignorant a$$ form of jealous. The logical answer to this eludes me.

@Chris399 (below) - Well said.

Aquanox5784d ago (Edited 5784d ago )

Kinect appeal is incredible. Everyone in my house/office wants one, and most have never played a videogame!

Edit: It's now top ranked in movers and shakers and it will surely climb to the first places in the whole category. There are many products that go from non existance to existance everyday but the movers and shakers are those which make the biggest impact. Don't be naive/cinic, Kinect will be a smashing success.

captain-obvious5784d ago

sorry but
WTF im i going to do with only 4 gigs ?

Bigpappy5784d ago (Edited 5784d ago )

But on N4G where you must hate anything not PS3. Kinect will sell millions and there is nothing anyone here can do about that. Keep your heads in the sand if you must.

@ captain-obvious: Have you ever owned a PS2? If so, how did you game with no hard drive at all?

captain-obvious5784d ago

@ above
dude
there was no updates , patches demos PSN or any thing back then

so this is stupid

commodore645783d ago (Edited 5783d ago )

amazon seems to rate the kinect very highly while hardly registering the move on its charts.

Of course, to the hardcore ps3 religion, this is merely a blasphemous lie which we must do our best to ignore.

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Bnet3435784d ago

Now that I think about it, the smartest thing they did was get the system with some storage to work with to at least save your games and save a demo or two and give you Kinect all for $300. I think that's great value for a casual gamer who doesn't have an Xbox 360 yet and wants to jump in.

PS360_375784d ago

I agree, and if 4GB isn't enough, you can go buy a cheap flash drive.

Like I said before, I don't think the Kinect standalone will sell that well, but I think the bundle will.

Seijoru5784d ago

Wii fit sold a bunch too, doesn't mean it isn't crap. I don't even call these people casual gamers, they are more like middle aged women who want to exercise or practice their dance moves.

Abriael5784d ago

It's lovely how every single time something goes on preorder people go look at the movers and shakers chart, see that product on top, and write articles on it thinking it's such a big deal.

Again, for the thousandth time. The movers and shakers chart shows the difference in sales/preorders between before and the current moment. When something gets put on the market for the first time, EVERYTHING is better than zero, so it will "skyrocket" on top of that chart, that means absolutely nothing.

King_of _the_Casuals5784d ago

Son, I must ask you why you're arguing with yourself? No one on this thread has said that Kinect will be superior. Any gamer knows sales does not equal quality. The Wii is a clear example of this.

But what Kinect is, is something new and exciting. (And don't give me that baloney about the PSEye because I'm one of the very few that owns it, and it is NOT the same) And Yes, Move will be A LOT better for hardcore gamers....but the concept of the MOVE is something we've seen before in the Wii. (And YES, we know it's vastly improved but the CONCEPT is the same.)

Chris3995784d ago (Edited 5784d ago )

I'm sure that there will be a demand for this product people, but really, learn how to read and comprehend English. Naturally when something goes from non-existence to existence (which was the state of the 4GB bundle till yesterday) the demand increases. From 0% > a proportionate representation of whatever being #48ish (where it's at now) is on the Bestsellers list.

That said, Kinect itself is sitting pretty at #4. The remodeled "slim" 360 is at #10 and the Wii and PS3 are inching their way back toward it at #17 and #19 respectively.

Numbers are fun! What does all this mean? More importantly who gives a flaming shit? Off to play some FF now. Games! You fellahs remember those? Or do all the cool kids just play sales now? Cheers.

LogicalFanboy5784d ago

i dont care how much Kinect sells or how much Move sell. nobody shud care besides Sony and Microsoft. at da end of da day, as CONSUMERS/GAMERS, Hardcore gamers will be enjoingMove while casuals enjoy Kinect.

if anyone disagrees, their either a mad xboxfanboy who cant use motion controle(Move) to enjoy their favorite games or their mad PS fanboys who are mad dat Kinect will sell better. bottom line

Mmmkay5784d ago

4GB ?
HAHAHA.
I bought an mp3 player with 20GB in 2000.

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xg-ei8ht5784d ago

KINECT - ROFL

B-ROLL more like.

xxLuckyStrike5784d ago

want Kinect...they dont care about PSMove a Wii clone. The casuals already have a Wii!!!

SeanRL5784d ago (Edited 5784d ago )

Too bad it's not a wii-clone, which I've explained in two other articles already.

Edit: Ya, stealth disagree with a fact, dumbass's

Lord_Doggington5784d ago

articles that no casual will ever read

xxLuckyStrike5784d ago (Edited 5784d ago )

if it looks like a wii and it smells like a wii....its PSMove. Maybe you should rent a billboard on the side of the freeway as your articles have had nill effect.. then maybe everyone can hear your crys...

Edit:

Theres my stealth disagree...

Biggest5784d ago

If it looks like an EyeToy and smells like an EyeToy. . . It's Kinect? Your play on words is extremely innovative and never seen before!

PS360_375784d ago (Edited 5784d ago )

@Biggest

The problem is that the Eye Toy failed. Wii did not.

Its one thing to try and succeed where one failed instead of slightly improving (copying) something that already works.

I do not like Kinect and I will be purchasing Move, but I'm not going to lipstick on a turd by acting like Move is some crazy innovation that has done something no other product has. Kinect is similar to the eye toy, but it may actually succeed, only time will tell.

absolutecarnage5784d ago (Edited 5784d ago )

so your telling me that if somebody that doesn't follow gaming news at all, and owns a Wii,and was going to buy one of the two. Kinect would at least look like something new, Move would look like something they already have.

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Seraphemz5784d ago (Edited 5784d ago )

PS360 - Move isn't being called innovative.. Kinect is..
show me one report that states Move is 'innovative'. Move is being shown as more precise and having games that core people want to play.

if anything.. Kinect is being billed as the next big thing...straight out of Minority Report... Which it's not.

jneul5784d ago

we hate lies ps move in dev since early as 2000, also have you seen the latest cameleon tech demo it's mad, kinect will sell well at first until the hype dies down, idots will buy into kinect

divideby05784d ago

the way I compare Motion to our Wii is you can play REAL games with these devices.
MS has not even glimpsed a killer app or a REAL game.
Not knocking Kin...just the price and kick the ballie game are totally lame

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Kyur4ThePain5784d ago

Really? We're doing that again?

Mustang300C20125784d ago

Now it is sitting at number 48 while Kinect is moving back to the number 1 spot at number 4

http://www.amazon.com/gp/be...

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Joy Ride Turbo - The Beginning of the End for Xbox Kinect

Joy Ride Turbo launched 10 years ago today. The first title was Xbox Kinect exclusive, yet this sequel failed to support the device at all.

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10 of the Biggest Video Game Hardware Failures Ever

Cultured Vultures: "Sadly, not all hardware is created equal, and no matter how much developers might try, some gaming hardware just fails to hit the mark. We’ve compiled a list of 10 gaming hardware fails, and boy did some fail hard."

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Knightofelemia1581d ago

I would label the Power Glove, Kinect, and that Tony Hawk skateboard more as hardware addons hardware failure would be like the Virtual Boy and one day Stadia.

Magog1581d ago

Kinect was bundled with every Xbox One and inflated the price on an already underpowered and low RAM machine so for the One it wasn't an accessory as much as a white elephant.

CaptainHenry9161581d ago (Edited 1581d ago )

Definitely the RROD but that power glove had a lot of issues as well. The Kinect just didn't work

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CrimsonWing691581d ago

Hardware add-ons are more like RAM or a video card, basically components that enhance capabilities or performance of the computer.

If you really want to get technical the Kinect is more of a peripheral device, kind of like a keyboard or mouse to a computer.

ThatsGaming1581d ago

The person in this article obviously is not up on their gaming history....

Sega Saturn, Sega Dreamcast, Coleco Gemini, Commodore 128, Commodore Amiga, Atari 5200, Atari 7800 were all massive failures and in most cases cost their companies participating in future gaming generations.

Gamer791581d ago

Sega saturn (successful in Japan) and dreamcast were not failures.
Seems like you're not up on you're gaming history

septemberindecember1580d ago

@Gamer79

How in the world are the Sega Saturn and Dreamcast not seen as failures? They both sold around 8M each, which is much lower than the ~30M that the Genesis had sold before it, and even the Master System before that. They were both the worst selling consoles in their respective generation (PS1, N64 outsold Saturn, PS2, GC, and Xbox outsold Dreamcast). Both of the consoles were incredibly short lived. The Saturn was discontinued in every territory but Japan after just three years. In Japan the console was discontinued after six years. Meanwhile the Dreamcast was discontinued worldwide in 2001 after launching in most territories in 1999 and in Japan in 1998. The failure of the Saturn and Dreamcast lead to Sega pulling out of the hardware market. Which, by the way, all of this occurred when Sega was massively dropping the price of their consoles quickly to compete. Sega was hemorrhaging money at this point.

None of this indicates a successful console. Saying the Saturn was a success because it did better in Japan is like saying the Vita is a success (they both sold around the same amount of units in Japan). Even the Wii U outsold these consoles worldwide.

Magog1581d ago

The picture should be the 360 RROD. When I think of gaming hardware failures that's what springs to mind. Kinect and it's bundled price tag definitely hobbled the already underpowered Xbox One though for sure so I would give it a close second place.

porkChop1581d ago (Edited 1581d ago )

That's not what the author means by failures. It's about hardware that failed in terms of sales (Wii U) or just failed to deliver on its promise (Kinect).

Magog1581d ago (Edited 1581d ago )

Given that the 360 had a year head start, much easier hardware to develop for, was cheaper, and still ended up in third place I think it qualifies especially when you factor in the frustration and huge losses incurred by RROD.

porkChop1580d ago

Selling over 80 million consoles isn't a sales flop. We get it, you don't like Xbox, but that doesn't mean the 360 is suddenly a failure.

Rhythmattic1580d ago

Porky....
You know how many people I know bought a 2nd or third 360 due to RROD? Even when MS had to confront the issue with replacement systems, my mates couldn't wait for even the turnaround of sending it in, and waiting for a replacement.,,..,..
If that's how you consider it a win... OK.. but so is having 5 , of which 3 don't function.... Its a win win....mwhahahahaha

porkChop1580d ago

"my mates couldn't wait for even the turnaround of sending it in"

You're acting like it would take months. When I sent my 360 in I got a new one literally 5 days later. As soon as MS had tracking confirmation that you sent yours, they'd send a new one to you the same day. No one is going to spend hundreds to buy a new console instead of waiting a week. I swear you guys pull some of the dumbest shit out of nowhere and think people will actually believe it.

Regardless, none of this changes the fact that this isn't what the article is even about.

Rhythmattic1579d ago (Edited 1579d ago )

Porky
"You're acting like it would take months"
Sometimes it could.. FFS.. 'Strya here...
Best turnaround I reckon was 2-3 weeks.....
Either way, My mates experiences still exist.. So Sorry, no point trying to earn Xbox Achievements when it doesn't feature in what was a situation you never dealt with,,,,
3 of my friends would disagree (overall, 10 extra Xboxes purchased)
Regardless.. MS sold a lot of 360's that was due to this reason.. That is sales. Fact

"none of this changes the fact that this isn't what the article is even about."
Headline says HELLO !
Oh and "Sadly, not all hardware is created equal," that's enough to pass this on without taking your article bias into consideration.....
As for the rest.... Ok.. But you've actually gone out of your way to give MS a Pass... Fap on.

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Aloymetal1581d ago (Edited 1581d ago )

Yup, and because of that big fiasco MS had to fork out 1 billion but knowing them I think they're very proud of the 360, it's the only time a MS console reached 80mil+ sales, RROD played a big part of that and a record they will never break again.

Rhythmattic1580d ago (Edited 1580d ago )

So true.. Even when MS accepted they where caught out in the biggest lie of any generation, The wait for a replacement was outweighed by just buying another, and having one be returned as a backup, which, btw, generally failed on first swap.
I own honestly can't believe MS tards are just supporting , or arguing why and what MS did by just dismissing it....

lonewolf101581d ago

Lol I had the Atari Jaguar, surprised its "competition" the 3DO isn't on the list too, both as "popular" as each other.

SullysCigar1581d ago

Lol same. Played the crap out of Aliens Vs Predator and Tempest 2000 .... aaand that's about it really!!

lonewolf101581d ago

Sad but true that was pretty much it.

Kurt Russell1581d ago

Agreed, I never actually saw a 3DO make it to retailers in the UK. At least the Atari Jaguar was sold for around 6 months.

lonewolf101581d ago

It made it to some my brother got one, fared just as well as the Jaguar so most probably hard to find in general.

darthv721581d ago

3do had way better games. Jaguar not so much. Neo Geo sold less than both and yet isnt considered a failure. Go figure.

LWOGaming1581d ago

Stadia is a weird one. It hasn’t sold at all well but in terms of how it works it’s still miles ahead of Xcloud in terms of stability and performance. Xcloud is still a way behind and that needs sorting but it will be in time. Stadia for me is one of those things that will go down as a what could have been moments. With better marketing it could have been a roaring success. I still play it and it remains the best place in my opinion to play CyberPunk 2077. Only platform I have played it on without having any issues at all. The tech is great. The concept is fine. Marketing terrible. Shame really.

Magog1581d ago

The sales model was awful. They should have teamed with an existing player to allow for local and cloud access to games or a gaming subscription service.

LWOGaming1581d ago

It was a strange mess from such a huge company, as I said, as a system it works really well but without gamers it’s nothing. Such a waste,

LWOGaming1581d ago

The Xbox One was Microsoft’s Nintendo Wii U. Undercooked, undersold and just an unholy mess. The thing is with any of these failures is to learn from them and thankfully both Nintendo and Xbox did just that to the benefit of gamers everywhere.

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Pivotal Decisions in Gaming History - Xbox Goes All-In on Kinect

Xbox 360's Kinect had flopped yet Microsoft insisted on mandatory Kinect for Xbox One, driving the price up and alienating their potential customers.

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darthv721758d ago

the tech was pretty damn good but their focus on making it the centerpiece was not. Had they opted to keep it as a secondary or even tertiary device, it may have found new use for AR/VR.

PrimeVinister1758d ago

Maybe. But they were two early for VR and too late for motion control

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Godmars2901758d ago

Their focus was marketing metrics. Information gathering for targeted advertising. Also "event curating" or head counting for special TV events. If MS had had their way with always online and mandatory Kinect pre COVID, as and during it they'd likely be turning into dominant presence in many Western homes. Be getting subsidized by Disney and other streamers as well as the NFL.

Thing was, Kinect as an actual game system, its games, just weren't ready. MS moved on it too soon. Thankfully.

Atticus_finch1758d ago

Sorry but it was incredibly bad for gaming. The thing barely worked as intended and the games were broken shovelware. And let's not forget all the lies from Xbox to try and sell it. What happened to Milo?
It's like Xbox it's a perpetual lying machine.

PrimeVinister1758d ago

I had almost forgotten about Milo. It looks so unbelievable in retrospect. How did anyone believe it?!

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TheEnigma3131758d ago

Kinect requirement, TV focused, DRM, and $100 buried Xbone before it even stared.

PrimeVinister1758d ago (Edited 1758d ago )

I think Kinect was the worst of the bunch. They reversed DRM overnight and try to play down the TV stuff when they realised it made them look disinterested in gaming.

Kinect stuck around for six months, preventing sales and making more and more people upset when they dropped the Kinect and the price.

Atticus_finch1758d ago

Don't forget the inferior hardware which affects their game development to this day.
And the constant boasting and lying that hasn't change very much to this day.

kayoss1758d ago

I was kind of excited for the kinect. It had potential. That was until i tried it at one of their Microsoft store. The thing was so laggy and worker who was there, had no clue what he was doing. It kind of made rethink about buying an Xbox One with Kinect.

PrimeVinister1758d ago

I had already been turned off of the idea by Kinect for 360. Even when it worked, the games were bad and showed no potential.

Wii made you understand what they were going to do with it within about 10 seconds of Wii Sports. It went on to become a bit of a joke but at least it worked and had a purpose.

Thundercat771757d ago

The damage to the Xbox brand was so hard that til this day they are just the last place brand in the market.

PrimeVinister1757d ago

Totally. They haven't been really all that relevant since.

Godmars2901757d ago

That has to do with repeatedly failing, having to reaffirm only to again fail at creating a competent flow of decent games.

@PrimeVinister:
Until Game Pass and BC are mentioned. Only for the point to be missed.

kayoss1757d ago

thats because they dont know what they want to be. A gaming console, Television, or a gaming service?

Godmars2901757d ago

@kayoss:
They wanted, expected, to be Steam. To have everyone coming to them and paying for the privilege. That's the exact mentality on display when they tried to push always online.

brewin1757d ago

Its sad because the Xbox one version of Kinect was actually pretty solid. Not for motion games, I couldnt care less about those, but for the other features that are now commonplace in the gaming ecosystem. Things like voice control and optional motion features in games. Stuff that Sony did with the PS camera was pretty sweet and they could have done some of that stuff with Kinect.

The tech was pretty sweet when implemented right though. Who remembers the implementation in Dead Rising 3?! You could lure zombies away by saying stuff into the kinect, it was a bit hokey at first, but it actually enhanced the game significantly once you learned all the different voice commands. There was and still is nothing else like that!

The focus on TV seemed to be an issue for people, but the TV pass through had some real potential. They could have had cable companies giving the XBone out instead of cable boxes! I understood what they were trying to do, but they needed to show the games too, and thats where they lost the core gamers. Being able to jump right to a sports event or TV show with out leaving the console was actually a pretty cool thing. I spent many nights switching between NHL games or TV shows and jumping right back into my games seamlessly, just by telling Kinect to do so. It was better than people care to admit, but I loved it!

People say XBone had no games, but on launch I got Dead Rising 3, AC Black Flag, Watch Dogs, Killer Instinct, Battlefield 4, Forza 5, and Ryse. That was actually a pretty solid lineup in hindsight! Then later on it got gems like Quantum Break, Dead Rising 4, Sunset Overdrive, Gears 4 and 5, the Ori games, Rare Replay, Forza Horizon 3/4, State of Decay 2, ReCore (SUPER UNDERRATED GEM), Halo 5, Halo Wars 2, and all the great 3rd party stuff as well! I dare anyone who sat on the Xbox One to go back and give it a shot now.

It was actually a pretty great console all things considered. Yes the PS4 had better 1st party stuff, stuff that MS just couldnt top or even compete with, but there are some really great games that a lot of people missed out on that they would probably really enjoy if they actually played them. Thats why I recommend a Series S and Gamepass to a lot of people, as its a great way to get an awesome lineup pf games for super cheap!

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