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150 Kinect Seals PS3 Fate

Microsoft confirmed what hardly has been a secret – the price of its Kinect controller system as well as the Xbox 360 – Kinect bundle with an upgraded version of the Xbox 360 Arcade. Sony will have a tough time keeping the PS3 in play in 2011 as Microsoft is going after a market the Wii has opened for Microsoft. We are now certain that it is too late for Sony to catch up with Microsoft and Nintendo and the company may want to think about a next-generation Playstation 4.

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qface645793d ago (Edited 5793d ago )

HA HA HA LOL
wow seriously they try and make it sound like 150 is a sweet price

HolyOrangeCows5793d ago

If the casuals spend $300 on 360+Kinect (plus $100 more when they realize how restricted they are without a good hard-drive) over the Nintendo Wii for $200 and the current Halo/COD/Madden gamers of the 360 buy Kinectimals and Dance Central, to the point of making PS3's catch-up unreachable, I WILL EAT MY HAT.

T9X695793d ago

Why would casuals need to buy a HDD? Wii owners are fine with there 512MB, and the bundle your talking about has 4GB built in. Casual gamers are stupid, when they see 4GB they will probably shit themselves.

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D4RkNIKON5793d ago (Edited 5793d ago )

Move - Core Games
Killzone 3, Socom 4, Little Big Planet 2, GT5, Ruse, Resident Evil 4, Heavy Rain and The Fight

Kinect - Wii shovelware clones
http://www.vertigogaming.ne...

"Most of those games can (and should) be played with a dualshock."

Not really, that's your opinion. I can't wait to try them all on the Move. Socom 4 in particular looks more fun on the move, LBP2 looks easier for creation with the move, Ruse will be better with Move, Heavy Rain looks like the kind of game made just for move.

brazilianbumpincher5793d ago (Edited 5793d ago )

delete my comment mods i couldnt careless truth hurts,you allow rubbish like this just to get traffic

its not people like omega4 or n4spg that make n4g a piece of sh*te its the freaking cheerleader MODS who allow crap like this to be approved

i own both systems and we dont need rubbish like this

RockmanII75793d ago

Most of those games can (and should) be played with a dualshock.

I_find_it_funny5793d ago (Edited 5793d ago )

this article is so much joke

PATHETIC JUSTIFYING $150 PRICE TAG

ridiculous, Move is the answer

fishd5793d ago

I should have used a sarcasm tag!!!

sikbeta5793d ago

PS3 fate? Hmmmm... the PlayStation Brand is in the Gaming Industry to Stay, doesn't matter how many overpriced add-ons will be released to the market, so I don't see the point of this article... oh, flaming...

MysticStrummer5793d ago

@BaseballFan15 - If you want to ignore the precision of Move, go right ahead, but it's not gonna go away. Neither is Kinect's lack of real potential. In Socom 4 testing the Move users are owning the Dual Shock users. It has to do with precision, which is something Kinect doesn't have. A game like that will never show up for Kinect. Jump around.

presto7175793d ago

this is by far THE MOST BULLSH*T "article" I have ever seen approved.

I can't think of anything that can actually top this piece of sh*t.

Archdemon5793d ago (Edited 5793d ago )

"$150 is a very affordable price"

Have you ever thought of what you actually get? You pay 150$ for a perifal that doesn't even work in core gaming. You can't use it any other way than with your family/casual friends which in most cases will never be as interested in gaming as you are. Therefor buying this will only make you stash it away after a couple of weeks of use taking it out very occasionally.

My advice is, wait untill it gets dropped to around 80$ before you buy it. Even though you might troll, (hope to god) I think alot of people actually think like you and those are the ones getting ripped off.

PS360_375793d ago (Edited 5793d ago )

I really don't see people buying this at $150, but can you honestly say that $300 for a 360, Kinect, and a game will not be a good deal for CASUAL gamers?

You guys keep thinking in terms of hardcore N4G users when its obvious that MS is not.

Edit:
@ Holy Orange Cow

Casual gamers don't need a ton of space so your + $100 argument is pretty debatable. Not to mention that you can buy any flash drive and use it for additional space.

zag5793d ago

Would this override sony only be in the USA because in Australia the 360 hardly gets any ads space in the junk mail.

at some shops the PS3 section is twice the size of the 360 section.

Does that mean the PS3 has won then?

nveenio5793d ago

Are you serious? You're just being sarcastic, right?

I spent $600 for a PS3......a PS3. It was easily worth every single penny. And everyone I know that spent that on a PS3 agrees. There is no way on earth I would spend half that on a 360 and a $150 camera. I won't even buy a Wii, and they're only $199.

I wouldn't buy 360 and Kinect unless the price for a bundle with both dropped to about $39.

lordgodalming5793d ago

"JESUS CHRIST!!!
I should have used a sarcasm tag!!!"

lol I thought the same thing before I even read your second comment.

Kurt Russell5793d ago

You don't sound like a gamer to me... Just another cheerleader for a large corporation.

Gamers don't focus on the system... forum nerds do.

scofios5793d ago (Edited 5793d ago )

@GreenRingOfLife
Think of the people that bought a certain console in 2006 for 399$ as having to spent another 100$ for wi-fi adapter and 199$ for hd dvd add- on and 50 $ to play online 4 years now = 200$ and now 150 for kinect = 1048$ .
$649 vs 1048$

Anon19745792d ago

"If we look at the race between the Xbox 360 and the PS3, then it is stunning how the older Xbox 360 is increasing its distance to the PS3."

How could anyone with any knowledge of the gaming industry make a statement like that. The 360 was outsold by the PS3 in 2007, was badly outsold by the PS3 in 2008 until the price cut ended the year in a tie, were badly beaten by the PS3 in 2009 and so far is over a million consoles ahead in 2010.

The 8 million lead the 360 once enjoyed has now shrunk to 4 and, if Sony and Microsoft's ship predictions are correct, will have disappeared by year end.

So I have to ask, how can anyone with access to these facts write and article filled with so much fail? The Xbox is challenging the Wii? Blu-Ray doesn't matter anymore? Seriously, what planet is this guy living on. This article has to be one of the most out of touch bits of game "journalism" I've read in weeks.

This guy should be forced to go onto each company's investor relations sites, put all the real sales data in a graph and only then be allowed to write an article on the games industry.

BattleAxe5792d ago (Edited 5792d ago )

Well all I can say is that if you live on the 2nd or 3rd floor of an apartment, jumping around with kinect is not an option. Not to mention the amount of space in your livingroom you need to use Kinect.

At the end of the day kinect is not a practical system. Its simple really, Sony's got the games, Sony's got 3D, Sony's got MOVE, and most importantly Sony's got BLU-RAY. This website that made the article is trash.

moho-foe5792d ago

the Wii does have less memory but that restricts it from getting updates like to Cod W@W if you play that game on the Wii today the MP is full of cheaters because they cant patch it because of the HD

bakasora5792d ago (Edited 5792d ago )

okok and then im back off to play my games.
motion gaming doesnt interest me for the moment. i own ps3, x360, psp, ds, mid-high end pc and i think im getting wii when last story comes out.
so dont bother me with this trash article

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Newtype5793d ago (Edited 5793d ago )

"Wii owners are fine with there 512MB, and the bundle your talking about has 4GB built in"

LOL no. You can use an external HDD on the Wii. Wii is hack friendly..lol.

http://wiihacks.blogspot.co...

nsnsmj5793d ago

well, to be fair, i highly doubt casuals will buy an external hdd or try to hack it....just saying

PS360_375793d ago

not to mention the flash drive support

Redempteur5793d ago

casual can buy a 32gb sdhc card and store everything easily with their wii ... this was possible since what ? 18 months ?

Karlnag35792d ago

Actually my boss is a casual and because of that he doesn't want to spend a lot of money so he hacks everything he can.

KingME5792d ago

Titles like this are purely flamebait and should be disallowed on N4G.

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tinybigman5793d ago

Is all I can say lol. If the high price point at launch didn't doom sony I doubt a high priced camera will either hahahahahaha.

aaron58295793d ago

Sony is doomed ! Doomed to the abyss i tell you...

wait.. is this 2007 or 2010 ?

skip2mylou5792d ago

from what i can tell some people think its 2007

J-Smith5793d ago

poor microsoft seem lost LoL

n4gno5793d ago (Edited 5793d ago )

With greenringoflife comment, you have the perfect example of how biased xbox sheeps are : comparing the price of the worst xbox 199, to the launch price of ps3, to make xbox sound like a good value...what a pathetic attempt :) (even if the price was not anonther real advantage of ps3, the value is so superior/bluray/cell/3D/free online + move works, that it's a shame to read things like that, uninformed people can read that, and buy the bad hardware)

this kind of people, lying to themself, and others (like the appproved blog who made the ridiculous news), are the worst thing gamers can have, even worst than kinect.

by the way, for the dumbest one who talk about sells (when ps3 is leading against xbox since his beginning every single months, or close) "none of those games will push the PS3 Consoles sales up significantly", it's not one game that push sales, but all the games (more than anything the competition can have : variety, quantity, and quality) you don't have, all the goty, the bluray, 3D, move, and all the thing who make the console a far better hardware to buy.

Jazz41085792d ago

I for one and many others I know when you get off this clan of ps3 users on n4g that don't percieve the ps3 as a good value. I have bought three ps3's now and 2 360's and I just look at the ps3 as a overpriced computer. Its very slow, psn is downright ugly and full of issues. And the tripple a games are nice for one pllaythrough but very few games show replay value and don't get me started on all the damn installs and firmware updates that take forever and I have a cable modem at 20 download speeds. When then 360 takes 5 sec and ps3 take a half hour something is wrong. Again I don't expet any agrees since this ps3 home base but I want to state my issue with the ps3. Its a great movie player though I will give it that as there are no loads for movies thank god. Now with move and kinect. Sony is trying to appeal to everyone at launch and ms is missing the boat with kinect because if it can play hardcore game then launch is a great time to prove it. I do think ms will concentrate on controller gaming for there core and go after the casual which we on here won't agree with but look at the wii and with ms advertising they will sell. We already have 30 preorders for kinect vs 1 for move at my gamestop in las vegas. And we have 36 stores. So 36 * 30 just in vegas alone at gamestop it looks like ms will do ok with the casuals and that's fine as I'm not buying into either sony or ms bs motion controllers as my sixaxis and 360 pad are just fine for me.

moho-foe5792d ago

Until some people bring it back because it doesn't perform like advertised

PAPERCHASER03965793d ago

Where I live we pay 10% sales tax which is really bad so that makes it 165.00

Motorola5793d ago

I dont think Skittles likes GreenRing....

Narutone665793d ago

should be called conceivablybias.com or conceivablystupid.com

TK4215793d ago

And what games do I get to play for $150??

xxLuckyStrike5792d ago (Edited 5792d ago )

Casuals even know or care what Killzone 3, Socom 4, Little Big Planet 2, GT5, Ruse, Resident Evil 4, Heavy Rain and The Fight is. Sure that sounds good to a PS3 fanboy but to the casual gamer it might as well be foreign language.

Besides who is really gonna stand around for hours infront of their tv acting out Killzone or Heavy Rain. Kinect casual games are what will draw in the casuals. They play a few games for an hour then put in down.

Not everyone sits infront of the tv playing games all day nor do they have the time. Shovelware games are what work with the motion controller....its a proven fact. Playing full 10 hour games is just not realistic.

squallheart5792d ago

are you saying to play killzone with move your going to have to jump around like an idiot? If so you are sadly mistaken thats what kinect is for by what i have seen from the previews. Move is just an extension of the dual shock with greater precision.

bilbobob5792d ago

wow how quickly you 360 fans forget that M$ were aiming this at hardcore gamers too. Now where are the kinetic games for the hardcore........... hang on I'm pretty sure I left them around here somewhere!!!!

Also when your on about sitting around for hours. At least the move gives you this option, I hear kinetic has problems with people in the sitting position, small children and anyone wearing anything remotely flowing like a dress. Wow way to go making it impossible for anyone who is wheel chair bound or the like, to be able to enjoy motion control gaming. Answer that one DumbA**

Consoldtobots5792d ago

the casuals in my office ARE ALL PS3 OWNERS and just last week I caught em talking about HOW GREAT HEAVY RAIN IS.

stupid ignorant wishful fanboys FOR THE MOFOKING LOSS.

thewhoopimen5792d ago

Is that chart in the article even real.... It's Conceivablytech's paint version of the future lol.

HungPHAT5792d ago

Another Flame bait bullshit post ! And Kinect with shovelware games are going to seal the deal with Sony ? "ya ok" I was at E3 this year and was decent at best! Move will be more for the hard core fans

pixelsword5792d ago

The king of Israel answered, "Tell him: 'One who puts on his armor should not boast like one who takes it off.' "

-I Kings 20:11

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ShadowCK5792d ago

Oh my God. The buthurt here is AMAZING.

You PS3 Fanboys can bash how 'casual' Kinect is all you want but you're not going to change the fact that Microsoft are going to be rolling in money from all directions from this new piece of technology and they couldn't care less about your anti-kinect comments.

I've read most of these ridiculous comments and I have notice alot of people say that Kinect is going to fail simply because the hardcore are not going to be buying it. You, not buying it isn't going to collapse the sales of Kinect nor is it going to offend Microsoft. The casual audience outnumber you entirely and judging by the Wii sales, Kinect will definably succeed.

I also love how everyone defends Sony on this site even through the company don't give the slightest crap about you, whether you detest them or swear allegiance to the Playstation.

ShadowCK5792d ago (Edited 5792d ago )

Ha. Nice job disagreeing btw guys. You've really scared me now.

The Xbox Empire5792d ago

lol PS3's fate was sealed a long, long time ago.

jden285792d ago

O.K. I can see where the author is coming from if it were only a battle in America then the x360 would beat the ps3 easily as it continues to out sell it in that territory every month. But the fact is its not, and although it has a 7 million unit lead in America it is behind in janpan by a large margin and it is behind marginally in europe. It is true that the new "S" model has reinvigorated the x360 market and it is true that kinect is aimed at casuals. But move will sell to the hardcore the only problem is that we've already learned that there are more casuals now than there are hardcore. I will say anybody saying that kinect is way over priced at $300 for the bundle doesn't remmember that the Wii launched at $250 and was isn't an HD console no online support and was still sold out for nearly 3 yrs straight. Another thing to consider is the fact the the Wii balancing board has sold over 25 million units...Casual gamers buy what is popular...HOW MANY OF YOU HARDCORE GAMERS own the Wii Board? Casual gamers will by kinect or move based on whats popular....and Microsoft has the money to market the heck outta kinect.

Spenok5792d ago

Lol. Your agrees are ridiculous.

multips3fan5792d ago

im getting the ps move.dont care about kinect

HDgamer5792d ago

Sadly it did seal the fate. The problem is the fate of the ps3 is demised like the 360.

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ClownBelt5793d ago

I couldn't agree more. Skittles, The "Red Ball" and Milo and Kate are the future of gaming after all.

TheTeam065793d ago (Edited 5793d ago )

150.......................... chickens?

Did someone get angry and quickly jotted down what was on their mind? You forgot the dollar sign, sugar tits.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai31d ago (Edited 31d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio31d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing31d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9231d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit31d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing31d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9231d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay32d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn233d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers33d ago (Edited 33d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn232d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown33d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos33d ago (Edited 33d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay32d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay32d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac32d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger33d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300033d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde33d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood33d ago (Edited 33d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde32d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7534d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_32d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.