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Kinect Has A Purchased Victory

Ironstar's Brandon Brown writes: All the oohs and ahhs of Kinect haven't been achieved by many of the folks that have gotten a chance to play it already. Regardless, Microsoft is pumping dollars and dollars into Kinect marketing already. We know who's dealing the cards, "deep wallet" Microsoft.

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tiamat55792d ago

Translation, Microsoft is trying their hardest to make sure you can't see what a piece of s**t Kinect is until you buy it and take it home. But Sony has Coca Cola, almost a two month lead and the games to attract both hardcore anxd casual. Microsoft only has the casual who may have already committed to the Move or Wii and their hardcore will avoid the Kinect like the plague.

boogey1575792d ago

personally PS Move and Kinect are both expensive....IDK if it is worth the money yet

strickers5791d ago

No Move is not expensive.I have PSEye.I can get it for £32.

HolyOrangeCows5792d ago

HOW much did MS spend on the Kin phone?
However much it was for the ridiculous amount of advertisement, it still didn't good good because it was flawed (No one wanted to use a new social network, as they had already been established on other ones that they could access on almost ANY other phone).

I trust that at least after initial reactions to the lag and uninteresting software, Kinect will die down quickly.

Silver3605792d ago

Because the data plan was overprice for something that wasn't a true smart phone. And because of internal fighting at MS. The kin was J.Allard's project and the head of window's 7 fought and took it away from him and sent it out gimped so it would fail.

Blaze9295791d ago

also you need to know that Verizon screwed them over with the agreed data plan price point at the last minute.

LoydX-mas5792d ago

I believe the Move will be too much like a Wii HD. Kinect is different, and casuals will probably eat it up.

ALFAxD_CENTAURO5792d ago

Not only HD, Wii also can't do some mechanics like Move.

TheTeam065792d ago

How will they react when they realize both Kinect and Move will have a camera? Will they think it's the same?

Who knows...

Gun_Senshi5792d ago

Kincet is nothing more then Eyetoy.

Till now everything show has been done on Eyetoy.

Spenok5791d ago

If kinect is different, then whats this?

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Theres something i like to call the eyetoy, and its been out since 2004.

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thecreeper5792d ago

Super duper awesome coolness

Mucudadada5792d ago

Marketing is soo much more important nowadays. For every AAA game or movie, the marketing is usually what the cost of production was or more. Microsoft has to advertise the hell out of Kinect or else it will fall into obscurity mainly because it's uses and features are more readily visible based on its look.
They have quit a challenge ahead of them, but they are finishing the right ways to promote the product.
Meanwhile, Sony really needs to start promoting the Move if they want it to hit the ground running.

ShadowJetX5792d ago

I couldn't fully read your comment since I'm watching a full internet advert put out by Sony yeah.

But seriously, I agree, but to be fair, and in all honesty, I actually haven't seen that much advertising for either piece of hardware. Maybe I'm blind, or I just don't give a damn. If anything Imma more interesting in CS and the next Disgaea ya'know.

Chances are, most of us won't have the money for awhile to buy either, and if we do, we'll/they'll most likely hold on to our/their cash until we see reviews and more information and videos on how each performs yeah.

Chicago85065792d ago

U can't b serious!

"Meanwhile, Sony really needs to start promoting the Move if they want it to hit the ground running."

Ummm..have u not seen PS Move in action literally EVERYWHERE?

There's been more (Hands-On) & (Showings) for Move than it has been Kinect!...n that's a fact buddy.

Take another look at Sony's E3 Conference n u'll catch some of the partners they're partnering with to promote Move & 3D gaming.

N BTW...Move is completely off-topic with this article..
Can we for once stick to the articl on-hand, without bringing up seperate issues?

Game on!

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai26d ago (Edited 26d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio26d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing26d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9226d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit26d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing26d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9225d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay27d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn228d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers28d ago (Edited 28d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn227d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown28d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos28d ago (Edited 28d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay27d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay27d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac27d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger28d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300028d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde28d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood28d ago (Edited 28d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde27d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7529d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_27d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.