EliteGamer, Walmart did announce that they were only going to carry Blu-Ray players for the Holiday only, but they still will carry the 360 HD-DVD player.

Lightning, What is wrong with you, why do you have to post stupid $hit calling people fanboys. There is no room for it here. Just cause it's the internet doesnt mean you can run your mouth like an immature little kid. If you see something you dont agree with reply in a mature way, dont treat people like there worthless pieces of $hit and are always wrong.

i think another thing that should be added is all the negative hype about the ps3 when it first came out. Everyone hated on it and it did horrible and blu-ray was still beating hd-dvd, now sony has turned it around and basically no one is hating on it and most people are neutral as ps3 sales pick up... blu-ray sales should start to soar.... hopefully ;)

the sky is blue

for some reason my windows media player isnt playing videos. and i cant watch youtube videos or anything. it just appears a blank video on youtube and i dont know what the problem is. can someone help me please?

I can't find that news anywhere on the net. Anyone have a link stating this? I know and have read that Target has a deal like that....but I haven't read that Walmart has a simular deal. Any links would be helpful.
Thanks in advance...

P.S. If that is so...thats big for blu ray...only thing is...most people aren't buying blu ray stand alones...and obviously all stores are selling ps3's and hd dvd ad ons.... So that hasn't changed. Who would buy a 500 dollar blu ray player when they can buy a ps3 for about the same price at Walmart?

An interesting tid bit is how amazing the hD dvd add on is selling since the price drop....This format war is definately getting interesting.

When I type in Walmart and blu ray exclusive...this is the link that comes up...lol...stating the exact opposite...hmmmmmm

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/...

i have a PS3, and i own 5 Blu Ray movies, and 300 is going to join that collection probably this weekend (buy 2 get 1 free at the vid store across my street weekend!).

i had no interest in a stand alone Blu Ray player, though i definitely wanted to watch movies in high def (i'm a movie buff as well as gamer). when i learned the PS3 included Blu Ray, the choice was obvious, and i've killed to birds with one stone: great gaming console, and great hd player rolled into one. so the HD DVD's assertions that all PS3 owners don't use the Blu Ray functionality is false. quite a few of us do.

i refused to buy Blu Ray movies, however, until i had my HDTV (i was planning on getting a new tv anyway, so i decided, "might as well get an HD one then").

I see alot of people disagree with me on what I have to say. When it comes down to telling people what is really going on you have to have the cold hard facts to back-up your reasoning. There are few people who back up there opinions with articles which justifies there opinion, but how can you back up your opinion with a picture or something else thats not related at all. Cant you peope get a life if you cant back up your thoughts then dont post at all.

P.S. I'm most likely going to break the record for most disagreements on a single comment, but what the hell. Some way I have to figure out why people think there right and why they only support one company.

So I'm going to leave you guys with a question, Do you not feel like complete dumb a$$es when someone proves you wrong and you still fight back even though you know you just got completely pwned by a complete stranger?

ppl buy consoles just to play games and not watch movies based on assumption..... they should just do a direct correlation on sales of blu-ray discs after before and after ps3's debut. It is clear that most blu-ray players out there are ps3's, now its time to bring in the next step in statistical methods

Im pretty sure ps3 buyers bought the machine for both gaming and movie play.

I think PS3 n BLURAY make a great duo. I use the PS3 to watch bluray movies, n to play video games. All i need is a HDTV n im good.

We already know who has the advantage right now..

Is just a matter of time.

But to be honest I'm getting tired of all this bluray/hddvd news with the same info almost everytime.

Just give it a rest and post one when the format war is over..

In the meantime give me NEWS ON LAIR CONTROLS!!!!!!!!!!!!

The ps3 is being out sold four to one by not only the 360 but also the wii. And for having 3 million ps3 sold what have they sold a little over one million movies. Sony no games just movies.

They should be posting stories like the "The console war is over... Sony loses."

2 disagree on my last comment. I wonder why?

"it's my opinion"

Can you show me where it says PS3 is being out sold four to one by 360 n the WII. I don't want you to tell me the same thing on your next comment, I want you to show me some prove, because i don't belive you.

YEAH! I noticed it.

Your right. The Dude was taking a dump all over sony...

@The Dude

PS3 has sold 6 million worldwide @ $600 that is 6 million reliable consoles that do not brake.
x360 has shipped 12 million world wide with almost 2 years in the market @ $400 with more then half already braking so i think talking about install base its almost even world wide, its also dead in Japan and the PS3 is outselling it X10+.

I noticed ever sence that 360 HD-DVD post today there has been tons of these anti HD-DVD / pro BR posts. No matter how many times people post this crap on this site it isn't going to change anything.

All that matters is the stand alone sales, Yes it would suck to hold on to this format war supporting Blu-ray thinking it will win over HD-DVD due to the console pulling BR weight; when the same edge that helps Blu-ray can help HD-DVD thus the stellar increase of HD-DVD players for the 360 sales thread causing all these spam post.

IF PS3 is really close to 6 million it will still have to sell twice the amount PS3's then 360's for awhile with out any 360 AAA's and no price drops for the 360 for a year or so still keeping its temporary clearance price lol.

I agree wit you. Ps3 has sold 6 million worlwide. I read that article in PSU.com.

YO! Whoooop

you are making me laugh. But you right though, we have to leave THE GAY alone.

BUBBLES PLEASE!

"At this stage, the Blu-ray versus HD DVD war is a public relations battle as opposed to a head-to-head competition about which offers a better consumer experience; efforts focused on which camp is winning the month-to-month battle for more available titles, greater DVD sales, or greater player sales (advice to both camps - get over the month-to-month shipment stats and focus on consumer benefits)."

There we have it, Blu-ray, if it is winning, is not winning on the merits.

This is the start. Fanbase has been exploited into buying a certain format, sellers are being bribed into promoting a format. I have no doubt that in the long years left in this format war, it will be the consumers' voice that will prevail.

The xbox 360 has been outselling it 2 to 1. Thats since November 2006 up to E3 which just ended. At that point the ps3 had sold 3 million and the 360 had sold 6 million. Remember right before the holiday push.....right after TGS....the 360 had only sold 6 million....then from November to December it had sold 4 million consoles to make the 10 million mark...outselling the Wii during the holiday season....Also MS announced that while the wii had sold a little over 6 million since its launch....this by E3 2007....the 360 has been right behind it with 6 million sold since November 2006. It was the holiday push that gave the 360 such a burst....Then of course shipments slowed down and the sales have been a steady 250 to 300k in the US. Which brought the 10 million up to 11.6 million. round up to 12 million.

Now there have been no official numbers in regards to Ps3 sales after the clearence sale of the 60 gig model....But if we take Sony's word....sales have doubled...which would put it right on par with the 360 during the slow months....where it was outselling the ps3 2 to 1 every single month. We won't know until NPD releases the numbers....But if Ps3 sales don't at least match the 360 sales even after the clearence sale....Sony is in trouble. I actually believe its got to be close to the 360 sales but we will see.

Now in regards to the walmart deal....I have searched and searched and walmart is going to sell the blu ray player for 488 with a some movies and it will still sell the hd dvd stand alone for 299. Of couse it willl also sell the hd dvd add on for 150 with 5 free movies....

Whats amazing is how well the HD dvd add on has been selling since the price cut and free movie offerring....

The format war is definately getting interesting.

P.S. I'm only talking about console sales because people before me brought it up in a non factual way. There are still people who think the ps3 has sold 6 million when just a month ago the ps3 had sold 3 million. Then there are people who don't know that since the launch of the Wii the 360's total sales has been 6 million....a little less than the Wii's total sales in the same time period...And double that of the Ps3 which is where the 2 to 1 ratio comes from that MS has taunted at E3.

Its not off topic because console sales is directly relevant to blu ray's on the market and possible hd dvd's on the market. As soon as I mention un debateable facts...I'm hounded and harassed...but yet if you check the comments before me...they are riddled with mis information...but yet thats cool and ok to certain people....

Interesting indeed.

I just bought the HD DVD addon for the 360 $127 at Sam's and I couldn't be happier... if HD DVD doesn't take off... oh well, but I'll enjoy King Kong and my 5 free movies, plus I ordered 300 and Heroes on HD DVD from Amazon.com... I am impressed by the picture (I am now upset at comcast cable because I thought they had true HD channels)...
I also signed up for Netflix and I picked a bunch of HD DVDs to rent...

Congradulations buddy..thats a great deal...And I own both formats. You have made the right choice. Right now movies look better on HD dvd than Blu ray and you also get to enjoy all the added features like U control and IN movie experience. And for 127.00....you got yourself a great deal....Enjoy buddy. When I was watching 300 today on HD dvd...I was amazed at how many of the gamers on my buddy list was watching a HD dvd movie as well. I think prior to the price drop I had maybe 2 friends with HD dvd...Now I have about 20 that I have noticed in the last few days. WOW....

I really wanted Heroes in HD. Oh well, I'll just wait a few more months till HD-DVD goes out of business and pick it up on Blu-ray. Lost is much better IMO and I will be picking it up come this holiday season. The Spiderman trilogy and the Pirates of the Caribbean trilogy are also on their way.
http://www.highdefdigest.co...
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It doesn't matter if the PS3 accounts for most of the Blu-ray players sold because buying the actual movies itself is what really drives sales and what will really win the format war. Blu-ray did not have that head start and they are still on top.

"specifically, PC OEMs. HP, Gateway, Acer and Toshiba will be pushing out PCs featuring HD DVD drives, while Dell, Sony, and Apple will include Blu-ray drives."

Hrm.. I like to see some numbers on how many drives those companies sell. Something makes me think that Apple probably outsells all the HD-DVD companies by itself.

we will have one format for the market

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I just bought XMen 3 on Blu-Ray and its terrible looking.

Does'nt even look proper HD.

Whereas my HD-DVD's all look mint.

I just bought XMen 3 on Blu-Ray and its terrible looking.

Doesn't even look proper HD.

Whereas my HD-DVD's all look mint.

HD format war is far from over.

In fact, it hasn't even truly began.

So please stop your fanboyism and saying one format has one over the other.

Until HD itself truly becomes mass market, its now even a war.

Sorry, Damn computer!

http://www.amazon.com/gp/be...

a very compelling write-up....i guess PC OEMs will hold the key

peace

my blu ray movies at blockbuster

*yawns*

Micro$haft thanks all of you who purchased the HD-DVD. They knew it wasn't going anywhere, but yet they felt compelled to $haft all of those that were not in the know....HHAHAHHAHA

While now most people have a stand-alone DVD player beside their console,, back in 1999 to 2001, almost every PS2 owner used it to watch DVDs and thats why PSone and PS2 are considered to be among primary forces behind CD and DVDs success and while the article isn't a bad read, it totally overlooks this fact.

i have supported both formats thus far. i got the hd-dvd 360 player, so thats been around almost a year i think??? maybe a little less. and i have 16 HD-DVD movies.

i just got my PS3 3 weeks ago when the price dropped and i already have 6 movies, 5 more on the way via the 5 free movie offer, and from the list of upcoming releases i will probably buy 1 new disc every week for a while.

i just got blu ray 300 tuesday, but i also bought Hot fuzz and shaun of the dead hd-dvd

....I own 33 blu-ray movies. The latest movie is 300. I only have a PS3 and I do watch movies on it....a lot! And I do play a lot too!
I have 18 PS3 games plus most of the downloadable content from PSN.

How many of you own HD-DVD or Blu-ray players (not counting the ones for xbox 360 or the PS3)?

The war won't start until one of the formats reach normal folks, like the DVD has. Silly article.

Neither of them win. Standard DVD will reign supreme for a long time to come.

deny the facts that blu-ray kicks hd DVD's ass, its a fact and MS fanboys stop with the false facts, you know bluray has sold millions so dont start a flame war

i think Blu Ray disc sales would probably be in the same region of sales, even if more PS3 games were available. maybe *SLIGHTLY lower.

i know i'd rather be playing Uncharted, or Heavenly Sword right now, than watching a movie, but i certainly love the movies too.

i guess the real test will be this fall, when all these great PS3 games hit.

even with those games coming out, i'm still owning Harry Potter, and the Spider-Man movies on Blu Ray, to name just a few i'm looking forward to.

Which format is superior is meaningless.

Studio support will make or break any movie format war, and Blu-ray is routing hd-dvd in that arena. That alone merits how one sided this conflict is now; Not to mention this only exists in the US, outside its all blu-ray.

I have never seen so many fangirls with their pom-pom's in the air and screaming so much!!! This article gives the fact's on both sides of HD-DVD & Blu-Ray and still seeing 94% ignorance being posted. I agree with the people saying they want to see 1 format. Not caring if it's Blu-Ray or HD-DVD, just one format. Yet still, fangirls saying the same thing over and over again. People keep posting the same ole' bull**** news about HD-DVD is dead, Blu-Ray wins. I get tired of reading this crap every other 2 days.

"NONE OF YOU DO NOT KNOW WHO WILL WIN, SO ALL OF YOU FANGIRL'S NEED TO STFU"!!!!

Like the man stated in Fact #2:

"Blu-ray has a 5-to-1 advantage over HD DVD in terms of the number of units in use. However, of the 1.5 million Blu-ray players in use today, 1.4 million are PS3s; only 100,000 are true stand-alone non-gaming DVD players. In other words, those arguing that the format war is over are basing their opinion on the early pull of a handful of extreme hard-core gamers that were willing to lay down $500-$700 on a new game console. The landscape will look very different when $200-$300 stand-alone high-def DVD players become the norm".

So, how in the **** can "US (Hardcore Gamers)" can speak for the "Stand-Alone Next-gen consumer prospect" who is looking to purchase a Next-Gen movie player?! It's what people can afford that will be one of the key's to this war.

This site has gone down bad. I have a new motto for N4G....

"N4G, Fangirl Ignorance at it's finest"!!!

These articles are driving me to the point of losing my Fricken Mind and starting a collection of toe nail clippings and then comparing different toe nails to see which one will win.

has just started. HD media accounts for 5% of the DVD market. It will take years to claim a victor.

All these stories are just marketing tactics. Or to generate hits from websites.

These articles have grown stale and the only ones that really care about them are the PS3 fans. It is nice that PS3 has extra storage, but besides that these articles have nothing to do with gaming.

HDDVD isn't even used for gaming on 360 so why would 360"GAMERS" care if it fails? Movie buffs on the other hand might.

If you want to publish a million articles on this website pertaining to "GAMING" I think that Blu-ray wins DVD9 has failed would be more appropriate.

But as you can see that will never happen. Not for years.

Dumb article, most people arent going to cross over to either format and people are saying blue ray wins? lol, hilarious and untrue. For one HD has been in the lead for stand alone players and sales. There will not be one single player especially as long as dvds are out, so stop having yourselves one you stupid frikin sony fanboys and enjoy ALL! If it was up to me i would go with the better choice which would be dvd and hd, who the hell wants to blow a ridiculous amount of money on a blueray player when you can get an HD player with more dvd features for alot cheaper. Not to mention picture wise they are identical. Some people in this world are pretty blind and ignorant like the moron that posted this article. Get a life people!

Article number 1,234,555,000 about Blu-Ray vs HD DVD

15 BR movies
8 Games

So I use PS3 for both: movies and games.
Even if 30% buy/watch movies on their PS3s that's still significant number compared to HD.

The problem I see is the tactics used in marketing when it comes to features for each format. It has been proven that blueray really has only one advantage. Capacity! Yet in their marketing they tout the format as being the only one to support 1080p or lossless audio when in fact hddvd does the same and more.

I read in an article earlier that the ratio of movies isn't matching the ratio of players. With that I mean that more stand alone hddvd players are sold but the sales of hddvd movies isn't reflecting that. One person commented that most likely the reason blueray movies sell more is because people with ps3's are buying them due to lack of good games. Pretty funny really.

I am not in the market for hd at the moment. I would like to see a truce between the technologies. Take the format capacity and studio backing of blueray coupled with the feature rich hardware quality of hddvd and have one universal format. If it worked for +/- media it can work for hd.

You have to remember sony was a strong supporter of + media and never had burners that would do - yet the consumers made the decision to accept both formats because each had strengths the other didn't. + is great for movie data but not that good for general purpose. - is just the opposite. When the consumers adopted both, companies that supported one side or the other came to realize it was better for the industry to do the same. Now sony as well as others make combo drives supporting media for whatever the consumer needs.

It won't be long before combo players and burners are available in more mass market appeals. Already there are 3 companies who have released combo players for all format discs. The fact that hddvd uses a "blueray" laser goes to show that just because the two formats have different capacities doesn't mean they can't coexist in the same box. If both sides come to a truce and start releasing multiformat players at reasonable prices, consumers will accept them and the accept them much like they did with multiformat burners.

What I find most funny is how fanboys feel that if blueray wins the 360 is dead. It doesn't take a disc to make a great game. It come down to the developers and how well they use the tools to create the content. Most fanboys refuse to remove the disc format from the picture when comparing the 360 graphics and power to the ps3. Both are virtually so close to specs and numbers that they almost cancel each other out.

In the end it should be about how much enjoyment you get out of your format of choice. Not what it can or can't do.

When has this site become the "News 4 High-def Lovers"?

Anyway, I think the HD-DVD still has more its 6 months to go at least, not weeks as some guys here think. And who knows what can happen in the next 6 months? I'll sure would like that BD wins, since I already have the PS3/Player and are already buying movies, but is also true that, for contractual obligations, the HD-DVD have some better quality movies, despite the less space, than the BD movies, where the good features are optional for the studios, so the win for the HD-DVD would be some way good for us consumers.

Anyway, I'll continue to support BD while this is not solved, since I'll not lost my money, since I would buy the PS3 for the games anyway, it's not like i was buying a stand-alone that could turn in a paper weight a year from now...

PS: Sorry for the bad english.

F poo-ray, I'm sticking with HD DVD and the BIG LEBOWSKI.

Elitegamer and his lunacy clearly displays his mental illnesses - HD-DVD does not look better, it is not the better choice, and people who choose it should be stoned to death for prolonging this "war" so that the customer suffers because everyone really wants Blu-ray, and Universal needs to switch. Only freaks want HD-DVDEAD.

The reason it's not a "war" as HD-DVDEAD apologists say, is because the battle has already been fought, and Blu-ray won. Retailers have dropped HD-DVD, studios have dropped it (Fox used to be HD-DVD), studios have dropped exclusivity for it (once Universal does it, they'll have no life support), consumers have dropped it. HD-DVD'S DEAD. BURIED. LIVE WITH IT.

Im sticking with HD because there will be no winner in this war, dvds arent going anywhere and HD is cheaper. More people will be buying HD players than blue-ray players for the simple fact that its cheaper and your getting the same video picture. Doesnt make sense to go with the more expensive and what in the world are you gonna do with the extra space on the blue-ray discs. How many frikin extra features do you possibly need, theres more than enough extras on the HD discs people so get over it already. HD also is getting more movie support as time goes on, if anything they are playing it smart and Sony is being pretty stupid about it. What are they gonna do with all those extra blu-ray movies and players that will be collecting dust on store shelves this Christmas? They shouldve learned from their mistakes with the PS3, those things are everywhere. I see a hell of alot more of those damn things sitting on the shelves than i do a Wii. Once again, you know why? Lets see, the average customer doesnt give a sh@t about how much power something has they are gonna always go for the best price. Why should i but a PS3 for $599 when i can get a Wii for $250 or a even a 360 for half the price with a ton more games that are actually next gen. People dont care man, thats just the way it is. Blue-ray will not win people, get over it already.

ok i know this is all just marketing. whatever.who gives.

i just want to play hd movies on my 1080p. and i cant, unless i invest in extremely expensive 360 harddrives. screw that.

someone just win already, and make an hd player for the 360 with the winning format. i just wanna enjoy hd without eating up space on my 360´s tiny underdeveloped HD.

but i wont buy a fvcking ps3, just to watch movies.

i´d be retarded to do such a thing.

why dont both companies just join to make one company and just sell the dam thing.

Beacuase toshiba has an inferior product.

if blu-ray is a joke, dvd is now a lost cause, get over youselves, it does matter which is superior and blu-ray is, 50GB's againzt 9? WTf are you on nikka

are you guys mad PS3 is about bust skeet of games, so 600 dollares for blu-ray movies, and all multimedia stuff is a waste, then you must be admitting that 360 sucks balls

dey both f*cking suck monkey balls all hail videotapes get a vcr iff u want hight definition