Every time I read an article about rage most of the discussion is centered around Killzone 3?

Just your typical game x looks better than game y. When, of course, neither game x or y has been released.

The reason Rage is always mentioned with KZ3 is because everyone knows that KZ2 graphics can not be done on 360 (and we know this because they haven't been done). So, 360 fans say, "Look! Rage has better textures!" When that's ALL Rage has. KZ2 (yes, I said TWO) has better lighting, better animations, better hit reaction, better particle effects, etc etc etc. And KZ3 will run at 60fps, too. Plus, KZ3 has already shown more variety than Rage.

I hope at least PC & PS3 versions will be at FULLHD. No more last gen disk swappings.

@callahan09: I think they're envious of your rig. It's an excellent combo, of course. If you could get another identical HDD and make them do RAID0 that would raise the speed of disk access more, but that would mean reinstalling Windows again.

5-10x? No, no, and no.

You can build a PC that can give the same quality as a console for about $400.

lol, 5-10x.. so, $1500-$3000? Just, wow.

Equivalent settings on PC to console games and resolutions do not require anything like powerful hardware. A mere Radeon 4670 starts to provide console besting visuals with more resolution and filtering. Its a 65 dollar card.

Modern warfare 2 will usually average well over 40 frames a second on such a card @ 1280 x 1024, maximum details and 4 x AA. Console version averages about the same @ 2 x AA with reduced details, and just under half that resolution (1024 x 600).

Of course the intial hardware cost of a PC is more than a console, but it can do so much more. Most people use a Pc, so why not have one with a decent graphics card added in? Its games are considerably cheaper which easily recoups its cost versus consoles and their expensive games, peripherals, online subs etc etc. Already worked out that the first six months of this year i have saved over 150 dollars on games alone if i had purchased the console versions, and we havent even reached the peak period for releases yet :-)

A 360 costs $299. You can't build a PC that can run Mass Effect, Splinter Cell...etc on $300...lol.

For $300 you get a new 360 with 250gb hard drive, a head set, the best wireless gaming controller ever made and access to the best on line service with the best looking and playing games ever made. There is no comparison. The PC has the best Tech demo's made that nobody can run on their PC's. Every PC is different, meaning every PC gamers experience is different. Comparing PC gaming to consoles is apples and oranges. END OF STORY.

BTW...let me know when PC has a game running like this for $300...LOL. PC gaming is struggling right now, that's why they are moving over to consoles to make some money.

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Please, post a link or components for the $400-700 PC that can run Resident Evil 5 from start to finish with the same quality and consistency as a PS3 or Xbox.

No slowing to a crawl while something reads or writes to the HD, whether it's a game or Windows, no sound skippling, screen tearing, frame dropping. I really wanna see what you come up with ...

Please name a console that can completely replace a PC? Can't do it? Closest you can get to a PC is with a PS3, but even then it isn't a suitable replacement because you can't run whatever software you want on it (with the exception of linux back when otherOS was implemented). A computer does so much more than gaming, so expecting a $300 PC to match a $300 console is just moronic.

You could get a Radeon 5670 that costs ~$90, it will do 1080p RE5 with avg fps of 43fps and minimum fps of 30. You could probably find something even cheaper to match the console's 720p performance. http://www.xbitlabs.com/art...

$30 case http://www.ncix.com/product...

$20 dvd drive http://www.ncix.com/product...

$47 2GB of DDR2-800 http://www.ncix.com/product...

$40 250GB HD (7200rpm) http://www.directcanada.com...

$20 kb/mouse http://www.ncix.com/product...

$50 mobo (with 10mir bringing it to 40 but we'll do this without MIR) http://www.ncix.com/product...

$39 PSU http://www.bestdirect.ca/pr...

$69 CPU http://www.ncix.com/product...

Total: $405

I know its hard to believe, but PC gaming isn't nearly as expensive as you think it is. Consoles aren't just magically cheap. These aren't even the lowest prices, and they're all in Canadian too, so it would probably be cheaper in the US.

We're not trying to replace a general computing PC with a console. People here are saying you can replace a console for gaming, with a $400 pc and get equal consistent game performance.

I've been building PCs since brain dead 286's and the system you spec'd will hiccup. It will not play RE5 from start to finish with no serious frame drops or stuttering here and there.

If you want a PC that can play games acceptably, sure. But you cannot get console performance without compromise for $400-700.

ALL console buses are optimized throughout the system to maintain their throughput specifically for audio and video. There are no background processes that ever steals CPU cycles, etc., or causes disk reads/writes.

You can build a system that has so much power when these things happen, they are not noticed at all during gameplay, but having build many, many systems big and small, you can't do it in the price range you're talking about. We just have to agree to disagree.

MorganX the days of hiccupping in games are long gone when PCs were introduced dual core CPU's and large amounts of RAM with high bus speeds, i.e. 4 years ago.

RE5's MT Framework is actually a great engine, and will run on the vast majority of PC's across the board. What makes you think that RE5 on PC is optimized any different than consoles...I think what your trying to say is that PC games are bad ports? In that case I can see some instances when your correct(Saints Row 2...), but that is the engine coding, not the hardware capability, which comes down to lazy developers, kinda like how a lot of PS3 games run and look worse than the 360 version, same thing.

BTW here's your PC for $550, http://www.tomshardware.com... Pretty impressive framerates@1080p if I must say myself.

Great stuff letros. That configuration that tomshardware knocked up would obliterate resident evil 5. My laptop runs resident evil 5 better than the consoles. 1280 x 720 and 30 frames is so easy to reach these days, resident evil 5 can be run better on a 65 dollar card than it can on a console.

http://benchmarkreviews.com...

Even with DX10 activated, maximum quality and an absurd 8 x MSAA(!) @ 1280 x 1024 the 5550 manages to average 25 and 32 frames between the scenes tested. A little sluggish on the first scene perhaps, but then it is running the game with 50 percent more pixels than PS3, 8 x anti aliasing compared to NONE on PS3, and direct X 10 maximum effects which the consoles dont match and cant do. Whats more, the overclocked version breezes both tests at those settings without really sweating. Turn off DX10 or back down on the AA a tad and the framerate will rocket

Building PCs since 286s means absolutely nothing, sorry but just not impressed. If you aren't keeping up with current trends, your past experience will not help you. Personally, I've been building since P3's were around (but have also built a few 486s, outdated at the time), but I also keep up on current hardware, reading reviews and articles pretty much every day or two. The fact that you think a gaming PC will cost a minimum of $1500 to match console gaming just proves you don't know what you're talking about. All the stuff I listed was based on running the game at 1080p (which the consoles do not do), and if you were to run it at 720p like the consoles, you'd have an even higher performance.

"There are no background processes that ever steals CPU cycles, etc., or causes disk reads/writes."

Very wrong. How about XBL? PSN? Any system libraries the game may use (networking, XMB/NXE interaction)? While there aren't as many background processes, they are still there. Not to mention, you can disable many processes in windows if performance is affected (which is rare, considering the processing power).

I'm sorry, but I can't agree to disagree, the fact is you are terribly misinformed, as are many who think PC gaming is so expensive.

also guys when the new consoles hit and 1080p 60fps will be the standard you will love it I assure you.

60 frames is gorgeous and arcade like buttery smooth for the best control response and eye pleasing. Killzone 2 does chug along sometimes, low twenties and it is noticeable. A lot of console games do. Having the luxury of 60 frames on Pc is wonderful, it can make games feel so much slicker than the console versions. Mass effect 2 for example. Can be a little sluggish on 360 sometimes, but locked out to 60 frames on Pc its as slick as fook

both of you obsessed with Microsoft and Sony is embarrasing

oooh, so many angry fanboys. You'll get over it kid.