I will miss the weight but I still want to try out KZ3

at E3 and it felt a little faster than K2, but not much.

Thanks again to the whinners. The same whinners who messed up Resistance. It was almost perfect and they changed it. Now they want to change KZ3's controls. I played KZ2 from beginning to end without a hitch. I haven't a clue what you idiots are talking about

You know what the sad part is that many of the people that complained about the controls with complain about something else concerning the game.

A game developer has to sell their game. For Killzone 3 to be that game that everyone talks about and everyone plays, they need to make it so everyone CAN play it well

Im not complaining about the KZ2 controls, it was my first FPS on PS3 so I got used it instantly and kicked ass online. But moving from COD to Killzone to MAG made if very difficult. I could play MAG and COD right after eachother, but needed at least 30 minutes before I got into the positive K/D on Killzone again

Cept sniping. Ill rape anybody sniping on KZ

The 40 + people I kill online in every Killzone multiplayer game says otherwise .

I think its a good thing. Wouldn't it be great that more gamers get into Killzone 3? Besides, having different controls is no way to make a game "special". It just makes it awkward, turning FPS fans off from the game. Its wise of GG to make the controls more normal. I believe there'll still be an option for the "weighty" controls to shut somebody up,but I doubt anyone will use it,especially in multiplayer.

of an awesome game...

so why does it matter that much?

why do people act as if makeing the controls easier for everyone to get makes it a COD clone? do you know what makes COD, COD? the noob friendly weapons like the noob tube, the ability to dual wield weapons like shotguns(seriously wtf), perk like marathon lightweight commando so idiots and run around the supper fast and knife you from 10 ft., higher kill streaks that PROMOTE EVEN MORE CAMPING. COD's controls is probably the only thing it gets right i'm glad they changed killzone weighty feel it took way too long to get use to it. killzone does more than enough to set itself apart from COD like class bassed perks, consistanly changing game mode, and weapons recoil that means noob can't just spray like crazy. these are the things that made killzone stand out not a crappy control system

Just change the controls to your liking you whiners!

Gonna be a badass game regardless.

Well damn, it's now officially Call of Duty: Space Nazi's
Fuck you Guerrila Games, you've killed one of my favorite shooters

Sigh some idiots don't fucking read at all. They will only have the response like other FPS. Meaning if I hit the circle button the sametime The character will do corresponding action of what im clicking him to do. It will most likely keep the same control layout as the first one just the responsive time of what you do will be much better.

I'm a hardcore killzone fan and I can tell you the only problem killzone 2 controls had was the 1 to 2 sec lag issue it had when you clicked the button. Although it was easy to adjust to. Killzone is not gonna have stupid run and gun nonsense jumping in mid air shooting ppl with shotguns. It will still stay hardcore as it always been.

Since his blog was based on a little comment from Guerilla, and we won't really know anything until we get it in our hands, I think this guy is over-reacting.

That being said, those damn Modern Warfare noobs need to stop ruining FPS franchises. They think they're skilled, then they come face to face with a game that actually requires some to play and all they can do, instead of rising to the challenge, is whine like little babies. They brought MAG down a slippery slope, nearly ruining my favorite FPS in recent years--they didn't ruin it, but they sure diminished my pleasure with it. "Hey, to decrease the domination of skilled players, let's make the RANDOM bullet spread wider, and more random, and, uh, let's give them a little more aim-assist. Yeah, that should help those MW noobs die less, now the aim assist will help them acquire their targets more easily, and the random spread will make it harder for the skilled players to hit them." Thanks, Zipper, for listening to the noobs.

As long as KZ3 isnt another mediocre FPS game like KZ2 was ill be alright with it.

"it was just the people who hated a control scheme outside their comfort zone that saw it was 'broken'."

not true at all. i had no problem with the control scheme at all. what i did have a problem with was the 200ms of input lag that made the game unresponsive.

i have no problem with the 'weighty' momentum based turning, thats fine. input lag however, is not fine.

I think it's really up the the player on preference, but that said I really thought KZ2 was better with the heavier controls. THey emphasized the uniqueness and weight of each gun while also promoting that KZ2 was a game more about shooting from the hip when in close range than always aiming, which to me is more realistic that bullets automatically flying all over the place just because you aren't looking down the sights.

If there was one thing I'd change, it would be the multiplayer aspect that allows you to make games without certain guns. For the longest time I couldn't find any games that didn't have the rocket launchers removed, and that got pretty annoying when trying to knock out enemy bots. Aside from that I really liked the game, I just hope they add some more longeevity to the multiplayer

Yeah, you're right.
The next FPS needs to invert all controls.
L1 is now fire. R1 is to go into your iron sites.
Pushing the left analog stick up will make you move backwards.
Just so that it won't be like all the other FPS games.
>_>

But there are serious problems and looking at all the FPS players i know, not a single one of them got into kz2. Thats not good guys! Thats money down the drain, because now they will have to be really convinced to buy the next one. It already left a bad taste in some people's mouths.

It pisses me off, because its such a visually stunning game, that the botched controls and imbalances in multiplayer really hurt it.

you could adjust the games aiming to your liking and they had specific servers for that feel. COD type servers have that type people only and KZ servers have the original type feel to them, so one server would be completely independent of the other never mixing the two. I don't see that happening but it would be great.

WTF controls aren't the only thing that made Killzone different :/

The game runs at 30fps so i doubt it will play out like cod at 60fps. Probably more like a Bad Company feel which is a very tactical game at 30fps. Also kz3 features move compatibilaty so of course they have to get rid of the weight issue.
This guy is just over reacting, i dont think GG will put in auto aim like other FPS....well at least i hope so.
If the feel of the controls are similar to Bad Company (which they sort of are) I wont have a problem with them.

I diagree with this article. The gameplay videos clearly showed that there was no auto aim. I think its less heavy, with less recoil, also the movement when aiming down the sights seems reduced. For them to say that Guerilla "pretty much wipe out the existence of the contols found on KZ2" is pretty extreme...

You still use the default layout in KZ2, and COD like layout is ALT 1/2.
Watch this space.

complain then died. those who can adapt, complain and live. i enjoyed kz2 and codmw2. southpaw79-psn

yes because we all know soldiers wearing kevlar, gear, weapons and so on can run around like mad men and pick up and tote very heavy weapons and aim them with no problem whatsoever. KZ2 felt crazy at first, not bad, not weird, just crazy realistic. the weight you could feel as you ran with every footstep was actually immersing. the fact it took you a second to aim was realistic. This flat out sucks, I wont complain too much because i don't know exactly what they'll be like I just hope it doesn't feel like COD. COD is COD, not KZ3, I wish they would realize that, unfortunately money speaks.

i like kz2 online controls right now if they feel the same as that i will be happy. i hated the original controls tbh and when they changed them i liked the game. they still have the old controls on campaign and i hate them.

Thanks, complainers. Once again, you ruin a perfectly good game, you probably won't even buy, because YOU suck. You claim "it doesn't do anything different" and when it has a different control set up, you complain about it. Great stuff, idiots.

and then i'm happy. I'm so sick of shooting someone when another guy pops around the corner knocking my aim to the middle of the two guys in mw2... Aim assist is more unhelpful, then helpful.

I loved the heavy feel of KZ2 and the lack of auto aim BUT can we play KZ3 before deciding they've ruined it?Looks like a good game so far but we've barely seen any of it yet.

wait why are you bitching if the COD controls were much better. Is it simply because, KZ2 controls were unique and that you hate COD? Get over YOURSELF.

Another over reaction from PRO-weighty control fanboys....with their typical disdain for CoD twitch controls.

No critic of KZ2 controls are advocating twitch controls of UT3 or CoD. We only want no lag or responsive controls like most shooters have.

To have similar controls doesn't make one shooter the same as another. Last thing I heard, MW2 is not Halo 3, is not KZ3, is not Resistance2, is not MAG, is not BC2, is not Gears 2, is not Deep Space, is not Bioshock 2, is not ME2, is not etc.

Yet the fanboys will continue to ridicule the majority, for not being able to adapt, all for the sake of being.....different?

Going to enjoy this whether there is or isn't weighty controls. Though I did feel like that weight gave the game a sense of realism that other FPS simply don't have. Plus it was funny playing people online who were just used to COD or Halo and couldn't strafe or aim. lol.

So guerilla finally admits it, the controls were not so good for kz2.

By comparrison every other game felt like it was being played on ice.

Thanks to all those whiny Call of Duty players so casual they couldn't learn a new control scheme. You are shining examples of gamers.

with MW2 selling around 25 million they can't ignore that base that are used to those controls... I'm personally all in, I though KZ2 controls where clunky and heavy!

to me this is the best news,i loved kz2 top quality shooter but i was never really a fan of the control system it felt a bit slow when turning but game was still very enjoyable.

I really liked the weighty controls of Killzone 2 as well. I deliberately chose it as my first FPS [that I ever played] because if I was going to play in the most overcrowded genre of them all, I wanted something different. I really liked the heavy feeling of carrying a real metal gun that felt like it shot real bullets that connect with a real enemy who I have to kill but I really respect. The Helghast in KZ2 were smart and didn''t make it easy for me in any way. I had to earn every inch of ground I gained, it was so rewarding-and fun! Everything felt like plastic after Killzone 2. I really hope that the sense of weight, even if it is somewhat alleviated, is there, that the guns still kick like crazy, and I have to work to make every shot count.

COD noobs controls, o no!!!
Killzone 2 controls are awsome, why they listen those childeren COD noobs?

good news. the controls in kz2 were to slow for such a frantic game

THEY ARE RUINING OUR FPS'S!

Sounds good to me. I loved KZ2 the way it was. But if this means that more people will be playing then the more the merrier.

How about they do something important like let people set the buttons to whatever they want so people won't end up with crap like http://www.flickr.com/photo... for a layout?

Killzone again pls 🥺

Gratz Guerilla, amazing Studio and engine, love Decima!

I was never a huge fan of Killzone, but thoroughly enjoy Horizon. Guerrilla are superb developer and easily up there with the best of the best.

Need a killzone 2 remake from the ground up.

One of the most creative studios out. I hope they keep it up.

Great studio, loved the Killzone series, I wish they would do a remake of the first three games. Horizon is a real step up and truly put Guerrilla Games on the map.

Too bad I never got a chance to play Shellshock: Nam’67 would have loved to try that game out back in the days to see what were their beginnings.

Bring back killzone (maybe in 3rd person perspective)

It would fantastic to see what they could do in Killzone after the lessons learned through Horizon.

Or heck, give us even a short linear FPS from the people who designed Cauldron THETA in the Burning Shores expansion. Even just flying into it (after gliding around and finding its opening amongst the lava and Sunwings perched around it, with other bigger machines just along the path toward it) was an incredible experience.

Great work until now. Keep on this path

Hope they get the opportunity to create a new IP this gen as well.

Forbidden West is awesome, It’s pretty damn big compared to Zero Dawn and it takes a little while to get your skills up and get the equipment you need to fully explore the game (not going to spoil it) but once you do those things and start fighting the big ass machines it really is amazing. Some cool side quests to where you hold the fate of peoples lives by your choice and the cauldrons look amazing. Lots of skills , combos, special moves and add ons for your weapons so you can approach fights many ways. Looking forward to the name game but I wonder how/if Silas will be a part of it or not ? Sad he’s gone.

Killzone games weren’t the best shooters but damn did they look purty!!!!

Killzone 2 remade with the multiplayer

20 years of mid-tier games and they are trending down.

I'm hyped for whenever Horizon 3 releases but Killzone 1 needs a remake BAD and 2 & 3 need remasters. Criminal those games are stuck on PS3.

Hold up

Horizon: Zero Dawn sold 24.3 million
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild sold 29.81 million

With the way journalists have been consistently saying BotW overshadowed Horizon you’d think the gap between an entry in a new IP and a longrunning one would be bigger Even if you want to include however much the Wii U version of BotW did, both series still did impressive numbers

I never want to hear that Horizon is an overlooked franchise ever again

i really loved the atmosphere and idea of killzone. i hope they revisit it at some point because it always had so much potential.

Bring Back Killzone please or at least a KZ2 remake with MP.

Beautiful. Might try it out then. Is the emulator capable of 3D? Playing this in 3D with the Move gun controller was amazing when it came out. I was surprised they got it to run so well in 3D, too, after Resistance 3's 3D had such a low frame rate. I can still play it on my PS3, but if this runs better, I'm down.

Controversial opinion here, but this is my favorite campaign in the series.

FPS, the way it's meant to be played, with a mouse and keyboard of course 😁I have the ISO, easy to get, now to set it up and see.