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On tap at Microsoft: A 3D display without glasses and multiple programs at once

Imagine you and your friends could play multiplayer "Halo" without the screen split into quarters. Or that you could watch the World Cup while your kids watch "Dora the Explorer" -- on the same television screen. And all in 3D.

That's what a small team at Microsoft's Applied Sciences Lab is doing. Their new "wedge" optical technology makes it possible for screens to display different images to different people at the same time, show three-dimensional images without the need for 3D glasses, detect things that are placed on the screen, and respond to touch and proximity.

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Briefcase Joe5816d ago (Edited 5816d ago )

Sounds expensive. A good article for a change on N4G.

captain-obvious5816d ago (Edited 5816d ago )

that (in the vid) looks nice i have to say

rockleex5816d ago (Edited 5816d ago )

"This is the first time we've ever been able to steer light in space..."

I thought fiber-optics steer light too?

Anyways, according to the article this is not coming out anytime soon. They still have a lot of stuff to work out.

Conloles5816d ago

This is where there huge R+D budget is going too, hopefully this doesnt get canned like Courier.

SonySoldiers5816d ago

has anger arguments to spin hard this super cool 3D

Watch fanboys are coming..to disagree or saying it's too expensive.. they proudly thought the PS3 was the only expensive toy in the world ;)

nycredude5816d ago

That shit looks like it needs ton of work. At it's present state it looks like a cheap hologram from a cracker jack box.

Bereaver5816d ago

Actually, there was an article like this a LONG time ago (not on N4G) about the college that developed the ability to steer light. It's amazing technology.

nickjkl5816d ago

people are just trying to take down 3d with glasses with everything they have

pustulio5816d ago (Edited 5816d ago )

oppps

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scott1825816d ago (Edited 5816d ago )

For some time now I thought. I wouldn't be suprised if Samsung and Sony are researching the same thing. The problem is it will never see the light of day until the production cost comes down. 3D with glasses are the best solution right now because it still looks great.

I will wait until something like this does come out though, regardless of who makes it, I don't want to wear glasses while I watch t.v.

sikbeta5816d ago (Edited 5816d ago )

@Sony haters

But Guys, I thought you were WHINING cos 3D is "Gimmick" and 3DTVS are Expensive, now it's Not?

WoW, way to change your mind pretty fast guys, also based on what the article said, this needs a lot of work and more time, I want to know how much expensive will be, but hey, 3D is cool for you now, right? right?

Arnon5816d ago

"cos 3D is "Gimmick" and 3DTVS are Expensive"

a 3DTV, glasses and any other peripheral wouldn't be needed for this. So in actuality, it isn't a gimmick, nor would it be as expensive.

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beardpapa5816d ago

I thought 3D was a gimmick, but suddenly people in this article praise it?

Have you guys seen those holographic arcade games back in the mid 80s? Do you really want that kind of shoddy fidelity in your living room?

I'd rather have the option of turning it off since this wedge display is physical and permanent. Remember? A lot of people in this site like "having options."
Does that sound familiar?

Hideo_Kojima5816d ago (Edited 5816d ago )

I don't think anyone will believe me but... I had a similar idea :(

When I found out how shutter glasses work I thought why don't they make it so that one person wears 2 left eye lenses and the other wears 2 right eye lenses so that they could each watch something different on the same TV?

My idea was to mix that technology with this technology and have people walking around a room and seeing the games from a different perspective...
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

IaMs125816d ago

Ill only accept 3D without the glasses im sorry but the glasses would take away from the experience for me. Good Job hope this continues to develop and hope see something soon

SkyGamer5815d ago

@sikbeta

I can't speak for the others but I don't like 3d anyform because I would hate to wear glasses all the time and too much of that and I will get serious migraines. Now if they come out with 3d without glasses, cool, regardless of company.

Folezicle5815d ago

I laugh how a lot of the time PS3 Fan-boys beel its there duty to report articles that are pending with positive feedback to the 360.. Fan-boyism of any kind is stupid.. Sorry if i heart the Sony Soldiers, but your just as sad as the Halo Fans

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Cold 20005816d ago (Edited 5816d ago )

Yeah awesome indeed. But this sounds almost too good to be true. It would be crazy if they manage to pull it off though.

sinclaircrown5816d ago

I saw a 3DTV at CES this year that didn't require glasses. Its a long way off production I think, and although looked too distorted sometimes, there was moments were it looked awesome.

Its only a matter of time before they perfect it, but I would say at least 10 years before these go mainstream.

BABY-JEDI5816d ago

Companies developing different approaches to 3D. This looks promising but still a long way off from the required standard. But keep up the good work ; )

beardpapa5816d ago (Edited 5816d ago )

Except Cold, it'd be too expensive and unsuitable for the consumer market (just like Surface). Great for sidewalk ad space like the Sprint store in San Francisco.

The technology is nothing new. This 'wedge' display is like those 'holographic' bookmarkers you get at Borders or Barnes & Noble where if you tilt the bookmark a bit left or right you'd get a different image.

The only difference here is there's a camera in the back to track the viewer's head so that the computer knows where the viewer is in relationship with the display. That way, the computer can determine how and where to project the images so the specific viewer can see them as they shift locations.

It's impressive, but I'd say it gives that strange shutter-like effect similar to those bookmarks.

El_Colombiano5816d ago

Damn bearpapa, that sounds awesome and ridiculously expensive at the same time. I hope that this will hit casual homes in the next fifteen years no doubt.

WildArmed5816d ago

The only problem with this is that it's just for one person.
It really isn't an expereince I want in my living room where more than 4 people are in it at a time.

It's great in theory, but a waste of resources if it just works for one person (the person being headtracked).

but it would be a crazy experience never the less

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Trey_4_life5815d ago

Lol am i the only one here that can smell FAIL?

MNicholas5816d ago (Edited 5816d ago )

If two people are watching two different shows how will they each hear only their show?

It's because of such fundamental flaws in transitioning to real world applications that such devices have not come to market.

Space_cancer5816d ago (Edited 5816d ago )

"If two people are watching two different shows how will they each hear only their show?"

- Maybe two separate audio output channels and headphones.

edhe5816d ago

Could direct the audio in a narrow field using the same positioning tech.

But yes, that's the question.

MNicholas5816d ago (Edited 5816d ago )

it defeats the purpose, doesn't it?

cliffbo5816d ago

sharp did it last year you have to wear headsets to hear each channel not practical IMO.

sonnyz5816d ago

I think only one person would have to wear headphones...

IdleLeeSiuLung5816d ago

Nope, it is the fundamental flaw that applies on technology suitable for something applying it to something else and then claiming it doesn't work.

It is also the fundamental flaw of not considering options and being pessimistic.

Theonik5816d ago

There is technology out there that can project sound just to one viewer. I actually saw it on Discovery channel. Can anyone get the link?

Consoldtobots5815d ago

wait wait....

so the same people that say they dont wan't to look silly wearing 3d glasses would have no problem with everyone sitting in front of a TV wearing a headset?

oh the hypocrisy.

likedamaster5815d ago

To be honest... headphones > glasses

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D4RkNIKON5816d ago

Wouldn't this only work for one person at a time tho? like the 3DS?

branchedout5816d ago

"Their new "wedge" optical technology makes it possible for screens to display different images to different people at the same time,"

Taken from the excerpt.

NoBias5816d ago

That's the whole point of the article.

cjflora5816d ago

I'm very curious as to how that works, and would like to see it in action. Pretty cool if they can do it, but what are the limitations?

webeblazing5816d ago

the thing is how many people the biggest tv in peoples house is usually in the livingroom or den. the the most cant be 3 people even tho this is good and its a start. good luck MS

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ISay5816d ago

this is what Microsoft does they get all excited about new tec and than they never manage to put a proper product out, where is that touch screen coffee table? oh ya, that became an ipad because you waited to long. i heard of interlaced video about a year and a half 2 years maybe i like the idea but its talk if you cant mock something up make it shinny and then tell house wife's they cant live without it. good luck imean it

The Lazy One5813d ago

There are tons of tablet PCs that run on windows. Surface (the thing you're referring to) is already released, it's just expensive because it's not a consumer product. It's more developed for businesses like restaurants or whatever to have their clientèle use while they eat or whatever or for businesses to use during meetings and stuff.

cjflora5816d ago

Why are people talking about Microsoft vs. Sony in this thread? This isn't an Xbox vs PS3 thing at all. I prefer the PS3, and would call myself a PS3 fanboy, but that doesn't stop me from thinking this is pretty bad ass if they can pull it off. I like my PS3, and have my problems with the 360, but I'll still use Microsoft products if they're good and don't have a 54% failure rate. I love Windows 7, and think their Surface project is cool. If they can prove that they can pull off good hardware I'll buy it.

Consoldtobots5815d ago

it's called butthurt, Sony innovates while microsoft stagnates. You really think they won't jump at ANYTHING that attempts to redeem their employers god-awful image with consumers?

DigitalAnalog5816d ago (Edited 5816d ago )

The REAL question is:

How is Greenburg gonna SPIN this? Didn't he diss the 3D technology a while back?

"To Greenberg, it's not a question of technology (or lack thereof) that's holding back 3D, it's the home environment. "I don't know about you, but when I play games or watch TV, I've got my phone, I've got all kinds of things going on. I get up, I get down, I'm looking outside at the weather and it's ... I'm not in a dark theater, wearing glasses, staring at a screen. I think it's just a different environment."

Source: http://www.joystiq.com/2010...

-End statement

The Lazy One5813d ago

That's kind of supporting him. This TV is designed for the home user. You can move around and everything and the TV will adapt the picture to you rather than you having to adapt to the TV (putting on glasses).

1Victor5815d ago

Agree it sound and looks awesome as well, but how many times we're going to see this same video and article before we get bored

r1sh125815d ago

I dont care what any Sony fanboy says, should this make it to the consumer market there wouldnt be a need to buy those stupid glasses.
This slate does the job of the glasses for everyone in the room.
If I buy a 3dtv, and suddenly 10 people come around to watch some sports, I dont have to purchase an extra 6 set of glaasses.

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ECM0NEY5816d ago (Edited 5816d ago )

ME WANTY

Perjoss5816d ago

I thought MS only did good software :)

edhe5816d ago

Their R&D is HUGE. But not a lot of it will actually see light of day.

How old is surface? and that's not available is it ?

They could do with someone else to drive them to getting products out of their ideas... I'd love to see this telly - it would be fudging awesome to be able to game in 3d without glasses whilst the other half watched her soaps.

RememberThe3575816d ago

I actually post a similar comment in a duplicate of this story. MS has some seriously cool R&D stuff that they do. I wish they would bring more of it to market though. I really think the next ten years we will start seeing a lot of the cool things they've come up with in our everyday lives.

cjflora5816d ago

I don't think Surface is intended for home users. I'm pretty sure it was intended for use in public places, like restaurants and such. They probably eventually expected home use, but not until it was WAY cheaper to provide, or they had a more home user friendly version of it.

TEFL0N_D0N_815816d ago (Edited 5816d ago )

Looks so sick that HIV would be scared to catch it.

koehler835816d ago

You must have been one of those people who were touting Natal as the future, last year.

"First step toward the holodeck" or some crap like that, right?

Yeah. Smoke and Mirrors.

Maybe David Copperfield has the next big thing in 3D tech.

mosasha5816d ago

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Hellsvacancy5816d ago (Edited 5816d ago )

WHAT? it didnt look like anyhin 2 me, i thought MS wasnt interested in 3D anyway?

Edit: Meerkat, if i aint interested in Sonys 3D tech what chance does MS hav? NONE!!!

blasian5816d ago

Theyre waiting for sony and ninty to start it up so they can be ready to jump in when it gets good.

Applegate5816d ago

I thought Sony said Rumble wasnt needed this gen ?

Biggest5816d ago

And just the other day Microsoft said it was rudimentary and unnecessary.

Sez 5816d ago

Didn't MS, and Sony laugh at nintendo for motion controls at the beginning of this gen And look now. Both companies are now trying to copy the sucess of the wii. See I could play this game Too

Spydiggity5816d ago

It's cuz nintendo is the adult of the industry. the other 2 companies are children following daddy's lead. they really just have no idea what they are doing and are playing follow the leader...simple.

sony and ms only care about money. nintendo tries new things and sometimes fails and sometimes hits a home run. they let nintendo take the risks, then invest in the money makers.

The Meerkat5816d ago (Edited 5816d ago )

They are offering proper 3D with different images beamed into each eye.
4 player multiplayer with a different image for each player from ONE screen!!
No glasses.
Its F@cking Star Trek stuff and you're not impressed?

Can you say F..A...N...B....O...Y?

cjflora5816d ago

Cell phones are star trek technology. We've become a jaded society with technology. If they ever reveal time travel or teleporting people will just say "It's about freaking time, stupid scientists and their slow inventions."

smokeybeef5815d ago

I believe it can only support two players 3D

vhero5816d ago

There not for gaming division anyways. This is obviously for there tech division where they are constantly up top with the leaders of new tech. I loved that panel they showed a few years back where you could design a snowboard and it was all touch screen it was fabulous it was a glimpse of the future. However like this it IS the far future as the tech is just too expensive for todays market but no harm in showing it off right?

xRenegade_Agent5816d ago

You realize Kinect could do this, right? It won't be more than $150 to do. I remember MS saying they could eventually do 3D for up to two users, no glasses. I might not like Kinect for gaming but it might actually be alright in the near future, especially with the eventually price drop.

edhe5816d ago

@ xRenegade agent - dude, read the fkn article. kinect doesn't produce 3d images does it?

It doesn't beam out seperate images to people based on their head position does it?

No, but it helps track them. This is one of the reasons the kinect tech's so damn important.

XactGamer5816d ago

A glassless 3D display and Kinect could be great for 3D applications. Manipulating 3D objects in real time without a physical device is sexy as hell.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai42d ago (Edited 42d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio42d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing42d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9242d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit42d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing42d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9242d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay44d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn245d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers45d ago (Edited 45d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn244d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown44d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos45d ago (Edited 45d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay44d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay44d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac44d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger45d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300044d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde44d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood44d ago (Edited 44d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde44d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7546d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_43d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.