Exactly. I was planning on picking this up for cheap. I heard that in the 2nd game it has the Hawaiian island from the first on the disc, too. Maybe that's why?

im pretty sure it as an offline mode anyway, I remember playing this before I had a connection in my house.

What are you talking about paying for something you can't use, it's free to play this online. And even when they shut it down, there are still tons of activities to do in this game.

And to the other guy, how much cheaper did you want it to get? I was able to find a copy for $10 last year!

I really hate how TDU was overlooked, considering it was a good game. The problem with it was it was basically an updated version of the Ps2 game and the graphics didn't look as good as they could have. It only took up a little over 3 Gb's, which I was shocked at considering how big the island was.

I wanted to see how long it would take to make it around the entire world riding the coastline, and it took me over an hour in real time just to accomplish this! I expect part 2 to be something wonderful, and I hope they fix a few small issues I had with the game.

you can still play halo 2 online on PC

Very few arcade racing games? So Xbox has how many more? 1? Wait Forza is on PS so the same amount. Also it’s there, not thier, which is actually their.

I don't understand this comment. No body is talking about Forza at all and even if Forza were to outsell this game how would that change the story (Steam concurrents compard vs PS5 community size)? Its like Tourette Syndrome for Xbox fanboys.

And every time someone makes this argument, I'll always go back to the response: we can only use the data available to us. It's the same with the weekly UK physical game sales charts. Do we know they aren't perfect/complete? Yes. But should we ignore the available data just because we don't have all possible data? No. And that's particularly true when we aren't going to get the rest of the data because the other platforms are hiding it.

You say people focus on Steam but "ignore" consoles, but that implies that the console player data is available, which it isn't. Usually when people say this, what they actually mean is that think people should assume, based on no evidence, that a game they happen to like is performing radically differently/better on PS5/Xbox than it is on Steam. I'm willing to entertain that theory if the dev provides sales numbers, or even if you can make a colorable case that a specific game's primary audience is historically tied to console rather than PC. But I'm not just going to randomly assume that a game that bombed on Steam has a huge PS5 and Epic Game Store audience just because fans of that game wish that it had sold better.

But we know steam data and have free access to check how many players are playing while on consoles we don't. I hope in the future we will get consoles player access too

Not every game is big time on consoles and same for pc. As pc gamers we just have more options on how we play but it seems consoles are starting to offer more freedom likes mod support

it's not that people put more weight on it. It's the only platform that allows the tracking of player numbers unless the game specifically has it built in.

This. If I have some data available, and the people who could provide me with full data elect not to do so, I'm going to use the data I do have to make educated estimates on the full picture. I'm not just going to assume that the hidden data paints a completely different picture than the available data.

Again, if there is some logical reason to go against the Steam data, I'll consider it. Like if a game launches on Gamepass, I'm not going to compare its steam numbers to games that didn't launch on Gamespass; instead I'll compare it to the steam numbers of other games that launched on GP, thus accounting for that variable.