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Console Wars Round 12: The Finale

We’ve gone through an 11 round slug fest, and still don’t have a winner. Both Sony and Microsoft’s gaming consoles have taken their hits, and we are down to the final round to determine a champion. It is with great sadness that this series comes to an end, but this final round is the best yet. We sincerely hope you’ve enjoyed the 9 month ride with us, and stay tuned, we have another ‘Wars’ series beginning soon.
What do you think of the winner? Agree?

A special thank you to LP for making an amazing series of videos.

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-Alpha5817d ago (Edited 5817d ago )

TechnoBuffalo has done a very great and thorough job with these comparisons from what I've seen. Hats off to them for the mature, detailed, and professional comparisons.

Regarding Sony's inability to multitask with the PS3, I think it's been a matter of legalities. I don't know the technicalities of the system, but I do know from people I've talked to who have a better sense with the industry that MS simply has things like Cross Game Chat and in-game music patented down.

It makes the actual gameplay experience of the Playstation Network underwhelming when you consider the spotty services of in-game music and how long it's taken for Cross Game Chat to come out. But with PSN+ I am expecting to see support for Cross Game Chat-- it costs money to support, and I assume this is why it has exclusivity in some form to + users.

I know in-game music has to do much more strictly with MS holding legal rights to the feature.

Sony does have features like recording gameplay, but the problem I have with Sony is that they are so passive. They leave it to the developers, who in turn frankly don't give a crap to use. What disappoints me is that not even all of Sony's exclusives take advantage of all the features, like in-game music. MAG, and Uncharted 2 being two of them. That's what makes me wonder if it's an issue of hardware limitations.

I'd like to see using the video recorder become much more standard. It's a feature that, IMO, combats Cross Game Chat and is a much better way for Sony to show that they are independent in PSN instead of looking like they are catching up with XBL. I know it takes a lot of memory to do (again, limitations), but perhaps we can see support come for it. Trophies were optional until Sony decided to make it mandatory, and I don't see why they can't push other things like that too. I think this is what they have to do in order to compete with XBL. With guys like EA taking Sony's priority over MS's perhaps we can see that change happen.

The online front is the weakest part of Sony's machine indefinitely. It's the one area MS rightfully exceeded in, as they are indeed a company that has expertise in that division. Sony needs to stop looking so disorganized when it comes to the PSN service and I truly believe PSN+ will help fix that.

As for the comparisons, it still comes to preference. Gamers go both ways-- either they like the 360 exclusives or the PS3 exclusives. None seem to be predominantly superior overall, except the PS3 when it comes to graphics and hardware and the 360 for the online capabilities so far. And Techno's right when they see we likely wont see something like universal in-game music for the PS3, it's simply a patent issue to my knowledge. And despite LIVE's offerings, some people still opt for the PSN service. Despite PS3 being the superior hardware and XBL being the superior service, gamers ultimately decide to their own tastes and reasons.

kane_13715817d ago

infact i was surprised how well he accepted his mistake and said he was wrong about round 11.
and that he once or twice hinted us to him preferring 360 more than ps3 made it even more clear for me that there are fanboys that are sane and mostly matured in opinion.
truly, hats off to him.
he made it to look so hard, he went into most of details, he just did the prefect console review.

-Alpha5817d ago (Edited 5817d ago )

"fanboys that are sane and mostly matured in opinion." That's an oxymoron, don't you think? It's not wrong to have preferences, is it? If someone maturely gives an opinion, is open to being wrong, and reasons well I do not think that constitutes a fanboy. A fanboy is someone who is just the opposite-- irrational, close-minded, and he puts his personal beliefs ahead of reason.

Why are you upset over your assumption that he may, or does, prefer the 360 in some instances? Is that wrong? A comparison is supposed to highlight strong points and weak points of two or more products, if he showed instances of that, and if in those instances the 360 was favored, why do you take that so offensively? I've seen him show disfavor to the 360 too, so I strongly don't consider him a fanboy for "once or twice preferring the 360"

I didn't say that it was perfect either, just that it's been a nice, detailed, and professionally-presented work.

FangBlade5817d ago

The PS3 wins, as expected.

Strange_Evil5817d ago

These videos are really informative.. Hats off to TechnoBuffalo for making a great series. This is probably the longest console wars videos (9 months) I have kept track of and it's easily the best...

Also, cheers to the PS3 for winning. I agree, as a true gamer, it's best to own both consoles as both have their high points. Great time to be a gamer.

kane_13715817d ago

no dude, i have nothing against him being a 360 fanboy, i wasn't even concerned with it, i just always wondered how far he can go without taking a side, and we saw it in ep 11, but what was important for me was that he admitted his fault.
i'm not bashing or anything, so just chill for god's sake

TheDudeLasse5817d ago

Thanks man. Your comment is much appreciated.

-Lasse Pulkkinen

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digitalivan5817d ago (Edited 5817d ago )

"The online front is the weakest part of Sony's machine indefinitely."
Erm no, atleast not for me. The abbility to play free multiplayer games is so awsome that it shadows over any problem it may have. You must remember that in alot of countries (like mine) you can't subscribe to XBL and thus you don't have a chance of playing an important part of games, their multiplayer segment.

Abriael5817d ago

The funniest part for me is how he whines about the few things the PSN lacks, and then he whines aboiut having to pay for Xbox Live.

So basically he wants a full featured suit of services completely free. Ain't that nice :D

Colonel-Killzone5817d ago (Edited 5817d ago )

Tbh Alpha-Male they have done a horrible job. Mostly all the rounds now are just opinions and not indeed a fact. Hardware and all of that is different same when they compared the interface in the speeds those are factual. But a lot of rounds were based on a opinion.

Seriously he gave the 360 a win because of a controller are you kidding me ?
When it came to the hardware comparisons thats fine. This whole thing got dragged on.

LOL you win a round because her likes the 360 controller more then the PS3 ? Give me a break smh...

Non_sequitur5817d ago

The whole controller argument is a joke. Human hands are capable of adapting to do countless amounts of time.

Non_sequitur5817d ago

I meant task not time. what was I thinking

TheDudeLasse5817d ago

Comparing based on facts and specs alone would have been boring and pointless.

despair5817d ago

@Alpha

What you say certainly makes sense, but the two things you mentioned; Cross Game Chat and In game music, I really don't care about either, but Sony is getting closer to MS online even if its at snail pace, my guess is more features will be released within the next 6 months and then people will need to take a closer look at the reality, but thats just my opinion.

Jinxstar5817d ago

"360 for the online capabilities so far."

This is also up for debate imo. I said it the other day alpha.

Does the 360 does 256 player FPS's? Does the 360 do play create share? Does the 360 do dedicated servers on all first party games?

Yes the 360 has cross game chat. I know this. I am tired of this argument. It does cross game invites... Great. So if I am playing fable 2 and get invited to halo 3 I have to switch out discs anyway... Who cares? Those are the ONLY 2 features the 360 has above the PS3 for online and for myself. As a gamer who enjoys online gaming... 256 players at once. Many MMO's being considered for the PS3 and not the 360. Play create share games and tons of other options. Dedicated servers... I don't know why people think the 360 has better online. It makes no sense to me...

Whatever people will keep believing what they want and only see what they want...

pippoppow5817d ago

Well said.

Dedicated servers with games allowing for bigger online player counts for new experiences are much more important than cross game chat.

It really is something how PSN, having a big advantage in this department gets so overlooked. As long as you can talk in game is really what's important. XGC is a nice lil bonus for those with lots of friends who like playing online but still no big deal.

The things that matter most for online gaming is connectivity (dedicated servers best) and chat features(In-game voice chat most important chat feature).

PSN-Free, excels at dedicated servers and has in-game voice chat.

XBL-$50yr, has few dedicated servers with low player counts and xgc.

-Alpha5817d ago

Jinxstar, I'm talking features. Just because the 360 doesn't do 256 players doesn't mean it can't. The 360 DOES do "play create share", have you played games like Halo 3? Trials HD? And not even all PS3 exclusives have dedicated servers on all first party games.

Persistantthug5817d ago

They don't really mean anything, people...

It's just for fun.

Danja5817d ago

I think we all knew the PS3 would win its hands down the best console on the market and right now the Xbox just isnt keeping up with what the PS3 is and has to offer..etc

thief5817d ago (Edited 5817d ago )

A long rambling post which basically says $300 over the 6 years lifetime of the 360 is worth spending for cross game chat and in-game music, even if the actual gameplay suffers from P2P servers, glitches and host advantage.
And yet we had people complaining about the 60 GB PS3 at launch being too expensive - that was $200 for blu-ray, bigger hard drive, wifi, rechargeable batteries, near-zero defect rates, free online, nearly complete backwards compatibility with PS2 games

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yewles15817d ago (Edited 5817d ago )

Uh, how are HIS PSN games installing that slow? If it was as big as, say, Infamous (6.9GB), then I would understand, but he should REALLY look up the system recovery menu if he's installing 200MB that slowly.

Edit: Excellent and compelling review BTW.

TheDudeLasse5817d ago

I guess i'm used solid state drive speeds on my PC. I get impatient with the PS3's 5400rpm hdd.

-Lasse Pulkkinen

digitalivan5817d ago

I completely agree with TechnoBuffalo on this video except in one point:
I don't see installing a game on PS3 as fail, I really don't mind waitting 5min before starting a fresh bought game, I would even wait an hour and it still wouldn't bother me. And the fact is that installing some games (like GTA4 for example) will lower it's loading time in comparision to Xbox makes it worth it.

blodulv5817d ago (Edited 5817d ago )

Yeah, installs don't bother me one bit either. I actually install every 360 game I play for better performance & a more quite machine.

Once I'm done, I delete it from the hard drive. No worries.

mac4u105817d ago

Grabs a popcorn....excellent rounds props to L.P from technobuffalo.com

nickjkl5817d ago

INCOMING FLAK

AH SHIT

THIS IS FUCKED UP

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai36d ago (Edited 36d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio36d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing36d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9236d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit36d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing36d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9236d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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(For Southeast Asia) New Price Changes for PS5, PS5 Pro, and PlayStation Portal remote player

For Southeast Asia, new price changes.

Prices effective starting May 1st, 2026.

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BeHunted38d ago

Looks like PlayStation took a hit with Marathon and is now quietly adjusting prices worldwide to recover the losses

andy8538d ago

Lets be honest raising prices doesn't do that when no one's buying it. I imagine the profit it greater selling 10 times more at a lower price

Pergele38d ago

Whatever you say buddy, let's all wear the tinfoil hats.

IceKoldKilla38d ago (Edited 38d ago )

LMFAO Your comment alone says a lot more about you than anything else. When has one game not selling 10 million copies made a company raise the prices of their console? Then Xbox would be costing $5000 by now lol. You remind of the crazy drug addicts on the street rambling on about conspiracies. xD You sure you don't need a hug, buddy?

ChunkyMonk38d ago

One game that Sony payed $200 million for. lol
Also, you sure were quick to get triggered. Maybe your the one who needs a hug?

Eonjay38d ago

If nothing else, we should be united against the real issue here. AI and unnecessary tariffs that are effecting all gamers.

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Athlon10138d ago (Edited 38d ago )

The price increases are due to the RAM demand associated with AI and the US-Iran war. You can look to any business news website and local news to see that. Heck, even the 2026 Asus Zenbook Duo I've been eyeing has faced delays and has had a price increase of $400; that laptop has two specs. Asus is doing a staggered release with per-orders for the lower spec now and shipping in May and pre-orders for the higher spec that I'm eyeing starting in June. Basically, all computer manufactures are affected. It'll most likely start affecting smart phones too if it hasn't already. I can't remember the last time any major console maker (Nintendo, Sony, Sega, etc) increased the price of their console mid cycle outside of Microsoft just to make more profit.

S2Killinit37d ago

Its not the war. Its the RAM issue.

jznrpg37d ago

War is causing gas prices to rise. Transport of everything requires gas so the prices of those items go up as well. So it does have an impact

Athlon10137d ago (Edited 37d ago )

The blockage of the Straight of Hormuz due to the US-Iran war has affected raw components used in semi-conductor manufacturing such as bromine, aluminum, and helium. Iran had attacked the liquified natural gas (LNG) plant in Qatar which is a large producer (1/3 globally) of helium which is used in semiconductor etching. So it's the both the war and the RAM crises.

badz14938d ago

Oh no...should I get the Pro now before the price increase?

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay38d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn238d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers38d ago (Edited 38d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn237d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown38d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos38d ago (Edited 38d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay38d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay38d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac37d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger38d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300038d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde38d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood38d ago (Edited 38d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde37d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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