because if he didnt kill anyone there would be no game

That's what i was thinking, why does rockstar keep releasing games.

John Marston is win

And he kills many people to save his own family? ummm that IS relate-able, because we all know, put in the same situation we would do the same, well, I would.

This hit me hard in GTA 4 when the heroin-addict brother of Niko's Irish friend asks you to kill random people while he's tweaking out. This is AFTER you rob the bank, too, so it's not like Niko needs whatever measly cash this guy has.

He went from, "Pretty Alright" to, "Total Bullshit" right there for me. I understand you've gotta do nasty things in a game like this, but maybe they shouldn't have tried to make a sympathetic character.

rockstar makes the same games over and over. every gta game is exactly the same, red dead redemption is basically a gta game, bully is not so different from a gta game. the only different game they have made that i know of is red dead revolver. while all the games are obviously good, theyre just the same things.

You guys are forgetting that rockstar makes games that essentially revolve around crime. Of course they're gonna make their main character a crazy killer. It happened in just about every single rockstar game.

i realy enjoyed playing as all of these characters. nico is forced into doing these bad things such as bank robbery because he needs the money and then at the end you have a choice, money? or the right thing to do, i think nico was a ritch fun character with great backstory, but he didnt overwelm the player.

john marston i feel is one of the best characters ever in a video game. you talk about how in mexico john starts to kill innocent people, this if you listen and understand the story he goes to the mexican army before the rebels. He is told by the army that he is to kill the rebels threating mexico, so blindly marston fights the mexicans thinking he is doing the right thing.

Then after the linal reves mission (sorry cant spell his name) where you meet the female rebel, john starts to realise he is fighting for the wrong side, then his missions for the mexican army more or less stop. The missions you do for them john shows how he regrets everything he does, then finally he fully joins the rebels and fights back against the army. so im sorry i have to disagree with what you said about each character.

While I see his point to a degree, this is the man's family we're talking about here. If it were MY family at risk and the only way to save them would be to kill the guy that wrote this article and everyone who commented here on N4G, then there would be a whole lot of dead people that far as I'm concerned would be someone else's problem.

What man wouldn't do anything he had to do in order to save his family? Is this guy saying he wouldn't? Is there anyone here who wouldn't?

Desperate times call for desperate measures. John Marston is one of the best protagonists in years!

None of the R* games are about story, none of them if you play GTA or this broke back mountain stuff for the story you are not doing it right. R* are masters of huge words/exploration gameplay, the character are the worlds created by R*.

John Marston killed a lot of people to save his family, thats why he let himself be killed because he knew it was justice and he knew the government wouldn't bother his family again. That's understandable.

Niko on the other hand, just killed people to make money and status in the city.

Is it that hard to understand?

Niko on the other hand..GTA4,simply didnt have the deapth of Red Dead.GTA4 ends the same way the other games ended.while Red dead,He gets the 'bad' guys, takes down his old gang...and then heads home..I dont believe any game hits home about reasoning why John did what he did through the game than having missions with his family at the end.until,well.that bastard kills him.It was epic.it was pretty 'real'.no man would let his family die.

I think the writer looked at it all wrong. Marston grows more desperate as time goes on. Everyone is screwing him and taking their time and he feels desperate to get his family back. He has reservations but above all else he feels he must do these things to save his family. Rockstar even address this in a long drive towards the end of the game.

I thought the article would be about why Rockstar keeps making the same shit but in a different timeline.

create a complex character, who isn't pure evil or pure good. I demand less character depth, maybe we can replace him with a Pokemon, and his horse could be Yoshi.

Well, I'm off to play some RDR Free Roam, and shoot some townsfolk in the face. :)

What a stupid article...

Rockstar Games hater. :@

the main character of the ballad of gay tony was dominican.. just like me

Honestly, people who play Grand Theft Auto don't care about the character as long as their badass. Useless article =P

the trick of a good narrative is to present someone you as a viewer thinks he has NOTHING to do with them.

then you learn to like them, grow a bond and realize you are more alike than you'd imagine.

citizen kane:

most of us aren't multi-million dollar power houses, but anyone who watched that movie i'm sure felt something for Kane at the end.

you don't need to be EXACTLY like them, so as long as SOMETHING relates.

to some, its the fact he has a family and he'd do anything to protect them

to others, its the fact he has to do what he is doing without a choice

others just relate because they always wanted to shoot mexicans xP - point is, i think marston is one of the best rounded characters R* ever gave birth to =)

I thought the game was pretty much fantastic. Im pretty sure that if anyone else was in John's situation, and wanted to settle down with his family. And was forced back into the life he was trying to leave behind, you would do some pretty crazy things.

One thing i dont understand about this article is the dude is bitching about how John is a Sociopath because he's killing cops and innocence for the hell of it, or for missions. He wanted to get into the character and have him be believeable, but because of his random killing structure he couldnt. But didnt they kind of answer that already? I mean they did a good job explaining that John came from a rebel gang that used to kill random people, loot whatever they wanted and such. If he came from a background like that wouldnt it be more plausable for him to kill cops and innocence again?

Same shitty Gears of War mechanics in place of additions THAT ARE ACTUALLY FUN AND NOT REPETITIVE!

And I payed 60 bucks for this.