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Does GameStop Promote Microsoft Over Sony?

For years, it seems as if Microsoft has a stranglehold on GameStop/EB; they give away tons of free stuff to employees, but Sony doesn't oblige. So, is there a GS bias towards MS?

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ingiomar5805d ago ShowReplies(8)
knight6265805d ago

like they say money talks and for sure M$ is making gamestop talk with big money

Rainstorm815805d ago

thats very true.....i mean for the longest time GS didnt even do midnight launches for PS3 exclusives.

Killzone 3 didnt get a midnight launch but Halo Wars did huh??

I dont think uncharted 2 even had a midnight launch.

Let alone if you go into a game stop (last year) you would only see ads for many 360 games......but i must admit that has changed in 2010 with GOW3

-Alpha5805d ago (Edited 5805d ago )

In regards to midnight launches, it depends on the popularity of the game. FreeFalling explains it better below.

I haven't personally invested much time in how these stores operate. But has it occurred that they promote the more popular product? The product that sells more? The Xbox sells great in North America, promoting or giving more attention to the more popular product is common sense. And let's face it, the most popular games in North America at least, are shooters like CoD4, MW2, Halo, etc. and they sell better on the Xbox. Why WOULDN'T anyone with common sense advertise what will sell?

And if MS is paying them, then that's smart of MS. I think Sony has been getting into it after the Slim rebranding. I remember seeing promotions for PS3 stuff like Uncharted 2.

Killzone 2 came right before Sony started to give a damn about good advertising. And the Killzone ads sucked too, Sony didn't even make them, and they explained nothing to new gamers. Unlike the good ads today that are not only informative but funny.

poopface15805d ago (Edited 5805d ago )

it was a midnight launch with another game, but I cant remember what it was.

edit- I dont think Gs did many midnight launches until recently tho. Halo 2 and stuff had one, but it wasnt until recently that they started doing alot of midnight launches I think. Now they do midnight launches for alot of games as they are having them for more then one game at a time now.

like the u2 launch had another game there too, brutal legend I think. And Me2 and MAG had the same midnight launch too.

I only go to gs for midnight launches tho(wallmart has crap service) as I hate GS. They ask you if you want like 5 other things every time you buy stuff from them. They suck hard over there.

NastyLeftHook5805d ago

i hear you, i went to a gamestop and i was going to buy infamous and the dude told me, umm...its best if you wait till it comes out on pc with better graphics and it will be cheaper lol. what?

Rainstorm815805d ago (Edited 5805d ago )

I cant count how many times ive called a gamestop about an exclusive game only to have them ask me, what system do you want it on?

Thats possibly the biggest problem with GS most employees dont know anything about gaming if it isnt madden, cod, gears or halo.

Gamestop is like the Michael Pacther of Gaming Retail......they sound like they know what they are talking about but for the most part they are wrong.....Wrong.....WRONG!

Edit @POOPFACE
GS had midnight launches for awhile now. I got GOW1, GTASA, and Halo 2 all at midnight but then again, all those games i think may be within the same time frame.

To all the stealth disagreers....

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Elimin85805d ago

I say so because every time I walk in there, there's always a sales rep trying to convince someone to buy a 360 over a PS3. Even now, besides the fact that PS3 is getting flooded with games you still hear that "PS3 hasn't got a strong library of games or they have none". One idiot tried to convince me. I say idiot because they go off to talk about the systems like they do know everything when they clearly don't.

Solidus187-SCMilk5805d ago

They never tried to tell me which is better, but they always try to peddle their useless extra crap that I dont want.

I also got Halo 2 at midnight launch(that might have been the first one they ever had, not sure). I think they only used to do them for big games, like SA and GOW that you mention. Now they seem more willing to do them for smaller games, as long as they can do a midnight launch for two games at once.

cliffbo5805d ago

it`s the same in the uk gamestation puts ps3 stuff at the back of the store and is not advertised at all.
also i was looking at the ps3 RDR when a employee rushed up to me and tried to get me to buy the 360 version. do they get extra pay for selling 360 stuff or what? seems a bit desperate to me.

ThanatosDMC5805d ago

Yep, i've dealt with a lot of 360 inclined employees and some are just as funny as some of the 360 die hards in N4G.

NecrumSlavery5805d ago

Killzone 2 had a midnight launch. I was there. Didn't get much sleep that night.

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The_Beast5805d ago

most of the people that work at gamestop hate ps3

-Alpha5805d ago

Do you know most of the people working at GameStop?

Neoicelord5805d ago

i can only wonder why one would hate the PS3... "PS3, it only sucks at everything?

The_Beast5802d ago

most of the gs i go to. the workers there always favor 360

FreeFalling5805d ago

Are determined by the quota each gamestop store reaches in pre-orders. Don't blame Gamestop, blame the fanbase.

Rainstorm815805d ago (Edited 5805d ago )

so you are telling me Mod nation racers.....was pre ordered more than Killzone 2 or Uncharted 2? I doubt that.

I guess some quotas must be higher for some games than others

@ Alpha above

I was thinking that as well but on the other hand its a game store. Wouldnt it benefit the store to promote both? I think the PS3 has a few fans to make it profitable. I figured it came down to people at GS dont know dick about gaming. Just found out they didnt midnight launch SMG2 either. Im sure that had preorders to justify a midnight launch.

FreeFalling5805d ago

Gamestop does Midnight Launches if the resources are given to them, so blame Sony if the opportunity for a Midnight Launch itself isn't even there.

radphil5805d ago (Edited 5805d ago )

@Raiinstorm81

At our store we had Midnights for ALL THREE of those games. So yes...it IS quota. It's determined by the amount of pre-orders IN THAT AREA, along with other things.

I mean shoot, GS always had a friggin Madden midnight release for crying out loud...

On a side note, I dunno why they don't say Sony gives away free stuff/discount it, because they have and still do. Hell even Nintendo has a few times where we get free stuff. If anything, the least amount we've seen it from, is from Nintendo.

The article itself all it does is serve for instigating, nothing more, nothing less.

Mizz_mai5805d ago

i think its true at game where i work a MS rep comes in every week toi make sure the 360 products are in the front of store..obviously they pay us for it..even our training video is sponsored by microsoft we even have to practice setting up a 360 on induction...lol

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hardcorez5805d ago

Those never get approved on this site!

Newtype5805d ago (Edited 5805d ago )

Check out the God of War III launch, E3 2010, and their RLS site. This guy from Game Stop doesn't know how to get free stuff from sony, because I have. Sony has quarterly contests for prizes from their website and gaming meet ups for game launches. The God of War III launch, they gave out free stuff, food, and let you SIT in comfy chairs.

Opposed to the FF XIII launch Square Enix treats their fans like crap. I had to wait out in the RAIN and when they let us in, they made us STAND and there was NO food there. Also, I was granted an access pass to the FF XIII launch thanks to Sony giving me the ticket. They have treated me well.

nefertis5805d ago

I hate gamestop, amazon is the way too go.

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay22d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn223d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers23d ago (Edited 23d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn222d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown22d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos23d ago (Edited 23d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay22d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay22d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac22d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger23d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300023d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde22d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde22d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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44% of games industry professionals have considered leaving the industry as a result of redundancies

New report from Skillsearch found that 22% of those surveyed had been laid off within the past 12 months.

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Cockney32d ago

Well if that 44% left im sure there would be a lot less redundancies

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Stop Killing Games on the latest European Commission public hearing

It's a step forward for Stop Killing Games.

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