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Crytek 'magic' prevents Crysis 2 3D performance issues‎

Videogamer.com: German developer Crytek, however, has achieved its 3D effect for upcoming multiplatform shooter Crysis 2 in a way that hardly impacts on performance.

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jaredhart5806d ago

that definitely knows what they're doing.

T9X695806d ago (Edited 5806d ago )

True, but Cevat Yerli is a straight up "I'm better than everyone else so I'm going to soil my panties" type of guy. Crysis 2 looks pretty promising though.

EDIT: Google his name with interview in front of it, and just read.

I'll take Killzone 3 over Crysis 2 any day of the week.

Nihilism5806d ago (Edited 5806d ago )

Surely you're not upset that someone other than a Sony first party developer can say "we have the best looking game in existence" an have it ring true...or is it that Crysis 2 looks to blow all pre-conceptions of the limitations of multiplat games away...

I'd love to see you quote one article where he big notes himself. As far as I've seen they are extremely humble about their technical knowledge, 3D is not even a selling point for Crysis 2...what does that say?. They are one of the best developers around and it shows. Nothing wrong with stating the facts, the make no false claims, they detail the performance and it is true.

@inveni0

Love how 1 unreleased game is apparently better than another unreleased game according to you, you'd make a great psychic.

nveenio5806d ago

Well, the question is really is this: Will it be the same 3D that Killzone 3 has? If Jimmy Fallon doesn't crap his pants with awesomeness, then no...it's not.

@dchalfont
Honestly, I'm more impressed with Rage on consoles than Crysis 2. But neither of those two games seem to have the incredible AI that KZ2/3 have.

nycredude5806d ago (Edited 5806d ago )

dchalfont

Let's not get carried away here. The game looks good but let's leave the comparisons until after it releases. I have no doubt it will be a great looking multiplat game, but it wouldn't be the first.

I am more concerned with the game being fun. I have Crysis 1 on PC and while it looks great and all, it is a pretty bland shooter. I just hope they make the second one more fun. BTW I am buying the PC version so you guys can have a pissing contest all you want while I play the best version.

Nihilism5806d ago

That's unfortunate, I thought it was one of the most open and epic shooters I've ever played, performance issues certainly hamper the enjoyment. But I'm sure if it ran at 60 frames constantly you would enjoy it more.

I can't enjoy any game that has frame rate dips so I haven't played Crysis in a while, but I can look beyond that. I have never played another shooter like Crysis.

WrAiTh Sp3cTr35806d ago

Wow, this will heat up courtesy of the ailment "butthurtitis" that comes along with an overblown ego that gets deflated.

Crytek...salute!

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gamer20105806d ago

@inveni0

"Will it be the same 3D that Killzone 3 has? If Jimmy Fallon doesn't crap his pants with awesomeness, then no...it's not."

Oh puhlease, like Jimmy Fallon is some kind of supremely wise, all-knowing god of gaming. Give me a break.

Jimmy Fallon seems about as soft core as they come.

dragonelite5806d ago

He almost came twice when natal was showed the first time and second time. That dude is impressed really easy.

nveenio5806d ago

Sorry, gamer2010. I forgot to add my "/s" mark.

SupaGamer5806d ago

Crysis 2 is going to dominate!

BubbleSystemSuck5806d ago (Edited 5806d ago )

why so much arrogance in this company?
dont need to apeal to this behavior

"Crysis better than other FPS"
"Crysis 3D better than Killzone 3D"
"Crysis better than Halo and Killzone"

STFU!!

who is the PR, AaronG? HipHopLamer?

Downtown boogey5806d ago (Edited 5806d ago )

I think Crysis 2 will still be great. No matter what they HOW great they say it'll be ;D

Aphe5806d ago

I feel the same way mate, Day 1, looks awesome. Glad you like it as well.

Karooo5806d ago

are not rendering the frame twice? So this is a different method hmm.

nveenio5806d ago

Makes you wonder if it would qualify as "TRUE" 3D, doesn't it?

Nihilism5806d ago (Edited 5806d ago )

No it doesn't, only the insecure fanboy mind wonders about these things.

You already know what Crysis 2 is like though so I'm sure you have some more insider info on why Crysis 2 is supposedly doing 3D the "fake" way and KZ3 does it the "right" way....I think it could be that ugly fanboy in you rearing it's head.

@raztad

Show me where I try to pass off knowledge about 3D. I mentioned the other day about how Sony is using Stereoscopic 3D ( yes that is the implementation ) when some Sony extremist tried to claim that sony had invented yet another miraculous innovative method of 3D I( without anything to back it up ).

I never made any claims, it is people like inveni0 that make embarrassing claims that Sony's method is somehow superior...again without basis...

Why are you upset?, is it because I keep calling you people out on your propaganda.

Very well, let's have it this way:

If you can post a link proving that Sony's method is different to the Stereoscopic 3D currently in use on PC and Blu Ray then I will retract my statement about you and you kin being full of $#!+

I'd like to know what I am a fanboy of, go through my post history, you will see criticism of all consoles and PC as well as PC games who moronically bought MW2. I own many Sony products, including a Sony Blu-Ray, Amp and HDTV....I do not hate Sony....I hate you.

I remember all the Sony camp claiming 3D could not be done of 360...Crytek showed them once again who the great developers are in the industry, it's not the 1st party devs, it's the developers who can get the most out of EVERY platform and utilise new tech never before seen on them. Crysis 2= first 3D game on PS3 and 360.

nycredude5806d ago (Edited 5806d ago )

dchalfont

You are in full anti-Killzone 3 mode here huh? No one here is even bringing up Killzone 3 but you. Makes me wonder what you are on about.

Get off Crytek's dick for a minute. Sheesh I am sure they are good developers but they haven't done dick on consoles yet. Let's wait for the game to release before we anoint them the best developers in the entire universe.

Besides all developers make statements like these to pump their own tech up. What do expect them to say? "our tech sucks!"

What I find funny is how you bash and talk down what Sony's 1st party developers say and in the same few sentences you praise the hell out of Crytek for doing the same exact thing!

Lets call it spades for spades here, although you claim you are unbiased and fair in you critique, it's a classic case of saying one thing and doing another.

JustTheFactsMr5806d ago

"No it doesn't, only the insecure fanboy mind wonders about these things".

No it's called scientific method to question the veracity and truth of something that hasn't been verified by independent methods. Especially something that sounds like magic coming from a single source. Only a fanboy would think to take it at face value. Maybe because his ugly fanboy head is rearing in the hope it's a magic bullet.

Otherwise your just a sheep being led around by the nose by the propaganda. Ironic.

Just taking into Sony's extensive involvement in developing 3D cameras and the software to process it for Hollywood would suggest they have FAR more insight into 3D techniques as a starting point.

Certainly more than a small company focused on multi-platform development for a mainly 2D product that magically produces the same quality with little processing overhead.

There are many forms of what people are calling 3D. 3D can be done on the 360. It's a question of the quality and type of 3D used. And the effort involved for non-standard implementations. There is a reason Avatar came with a list of compatible TV's you needed to check.

And as usual people want to obfuscate the meanings so they can claim inferior methods are the same thing.

I remember all the 360 camp claiming how DVD upscaling was just as good as Blu-ray. That somehow 5x LESS information in the SOURCE could be magically inserted from the ether. And of course no one would notice anyway. The last bastion of the fanboy.

nveenio5806d ago

There's a difference between stereoscopic 3D and 3D made from a single image. You can find lots of 3D samples on the web where the 3D is created from a single image. But the fact remains that you can not create a stereoscopic 3D image from a single perspective.

So no...it's not being a fanboy to question science...unless you're a christian.

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raztad5806d ago (Edited 5806d ago )

which is very interesting because actually the xbox/PS3 are not being stressed that much beyond the original 2D requirements.

@dchalfont

Why you talk like if you know more than the rest of us about how the actual 3D implementation is? you are not less a fanboy than any fanboy here.

@bellow

Yeah it sounds like there is some "trick" in place.

EDIT:

Me upset? where? It was you trying to call other people guesses out w/o knowing anything beyond what is in this article.

I still remember an article where you were trying to lecture me about how real 3D was supposed to be impossible on consoles (it happened by "chance" it was a Sony exclusive being retrofitted) and how the performance was meant to drop from 30 fps to 15fps. Doesnt seem strange to you Crytek got a "magic"trick for that not to happen? I'm totally sure you would be saying EXACTLY what invenio0 said if this trick was the basis of KZ3 3D implementation.

Seferoth755806d ago

I dont think they ever claimed to know more.
Is that your other account? IS that why you are taking an honest statement like its a personal attack against you?

Sounds to me like they found a way to split the image after the graphics card is done with it. Which isnt so much a trick as it is a smarter way of doing things...

Please though feel free to hop between as many of your accounts as you wish explaining how find a more efficient way of doing 3D is some how fake or a trick...

Just another clueless Sony gamer...

raztad5806d ago

@^^^

Dunno about what other account you are talking about. Who are you btw? Are you the same seferoth (the pathetic ninty fanboy) that PMed a hate message?

"Sounds to me they found a way to split the image after the graphics card is done with it."

You dont sound like you know much either.

I never claimed to know what trick (magic, workaround call it whatever you like) Crytek is using to have their 3D implementation running. Yes I'm clueless as much as you are. Again, who are you?

WrAiTh Sp3cTr35806d ago (Edited 5806d ago )

"IM A DUDE PLAYING A DUDE, DISGUISED AS ANOTHER DUDE!"

I'm sorry, I couldn't help myself. BTW, I'm not that dude. And....I'm already home xD

pantatkaula5806d ago

LOL.. dchalfont is answering using his duplicate account to your comment.. FAILED!! nice job raztad..!!!

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Downtown boogey5806d ago

Yeah, I'm very intrigued how they manage it!
He said they produce the second image out of the first one. So that's cheating sorta..?

SuperStrokey11235806d ago

Who cares if it works as well as teh other method? My only concern is that it wont work as well and will be a crappy watered down version of 3d if that makes any sense.

jalen2475806d ago

Crytek are obviously geniuses. They find ways to do the so called impossible.

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Our Story – Episode 2 – Crysis 2 to Ryse: Son of Rome

Crytek : In episode two of Our Story, the team discusses the evolution of Crysis into Crysis 2 and 3 (and the pressures that came with it), how a local connection landed an incredible collaboration with legendary composer Hans Zimmer, and the New York trip that inspired much of Crysis 2. For the gladiators among you, you’ll also get an exclusive behind-the-scenes look at the development of Ryse: Son of Rome and the attention to detail that went into it.

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The Crysis Trilogy Joins EA Access Vault

Featuring the complete nanosuit experience, The Crysis Trilogy has now joined the EA Access vault as a title that's free for those that subscribe to the EA service on Xbox One consoles.

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Games1st2138d ago (Edited 2138d ago )

Just in time for those that got the month trial.

DrDeath2138d ago

Wait? There is more than one? lol

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Here are Star Wars The Force Unleashed, Crysis 2, RAGE & Resident Evil 2 Remake with Ray Tracing

YouTube’s members ‘Digital Dreams’ and ‘Jose cangrejo’ have shared some videos, showcasing Pascal Gilcher’s Reshade mod – which adds Ray Tracing/Path Tracing effects – in some really old games such as Star Wars The Force Unleashed, Crysis 2, RAGE and Resident Evil 6.

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traumadisaster2522d ago

I'm still learning how to look for the differences. At first I was focusing on shadows for some reason but I don't think that changes much, is it reflections that change?

rashada072522d ago (Edited 2522d ago )

It is supposed to be simulating how light actually works- so yes if light is reflecting off a surface accurately it should show reflection or an effect that matches what you are looking at in the environment. Next time you play a game look at a puddle of water there may be just a "baked" in texture that if you aren't paying attention seems like it is reflecting but it isn't. I would say though if the light is reflecting more accurately I would think that would give more accurate shadows as well.
I am still not 100% sold on it- it looks okay but I can't get over the hardware price jump for better reflections..

Taz X142522d ago

While games won't look immensely better, it opens up more possibilities overall. Understandably, the price jump is huge. But, that can be said for being at the forefront for any new technology. I'm currently using a 2080ti and while I've played a few games that enable it, the gpu also plays everything else incredibly well so it's not like you're buying this tech for ONLY that option. Enthusiasts will pay top dollar to check out the newest things, but this will eventually become an everyday consumer and by then they'll have optimized and become a lot cheaper.

warriorcase2521d ago

Ray/path tracing can be used how the developer wants it to be. Tracing can be used to calculate shadows/lighting, reflection and even audio, where audio waves are calculated on the bounce off material types to simulate enviroment and echos accuratly.

Should also keep in mind that this ray/path tracing system is different and less accurate option from Nvidias RTX branded type. McFly's is a reshade that layers over the top of the game and therefor the quality will vary drastically. For example you can see nice reflection in the Star Wars demo here but it then introduces colour clipping with the light saber. On a video of GTA 5 for example it was incorrectly projecting a reflection of a red car onto the road which caused a very faint red glow on the ground around the car.

If you want to see a good example of a game developed with ray tracing reflection and lighting in mind then you could look up the youtube video of "Control - Exclusive E3 RTX GAMEPLAY Trailer".

DigitallyAfflicted2521d ago

It supposed to add more realistic light Not actually more light effects and explosions

traumadisaster2521d ago

I hate to say it but I’m fine with fake lights, shadows, reflections. I just kind of like the effect, it’s also great it saves resources for other things.

I’ve been checking out some original Xbox games on x360/x1x and the engine has fake light streaming in through a stained glass window, and I love it even though I know it’s not real time lighting. Heck it even shifts as I move about.

I’ve about convinced my self rt and hdr just doesn’t work for me. Before hdr I would even complain damn why are the headlights killing me they are so bright.

I notice most frame rate, then jaggies, then resolution; with the last two interchangeable depending.

Other day watched an enthusiast rave over 4k and the poor guy was in 1080p. I played the same game the night before and thought wow this is clean, I wonder if it’s 4k, but knew differently and I thought wow even resolution is not always important. The next day he apologized and was surprised he could be fooled.

RaidenBlack2521d ago

EA should have released the Crysis Trilogy Remaster for this gen.

FGHFGHFGH2516d ago

How come the lightsabers don't give off any light? Even in the EA star wars game the guy uses it to light up a dark cave. I guess if it is using frostbite it will support rtx cards.