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If all you can think about is replacing buttons with gestures then you've subscribed to the wii/move concept and not the entirely different one which is the pad+kinect one.

Your not thinking openly enough about what it can do. It's not all about tracking your waggle instead of adding a button.

"The most hardcore application I heard last year was fable 3 scanning you in taking your weight, height detailed appearance and "

Wouldn't that be a bad idea? Nobody wants to play as a chubby or obese hero.

Fable was not coming out with kinect support unless they put some in with DLC. No plans ATM.

I'd imagine we'll see it introduced to shooters for 'off-hand' items like the throwing knife in cod (lift hand, kinect sees, adjusts the reticule to your hand and auto-draws knife, shows knife hand mimic your hand on-screen).

Maybe even for extra dramatic meleé attacks, 'flicking down' your nightsights, turning wheels - nothing that can't otherwise be done, but would increase immersion.

Then there's the extras like leaning, head tracking that could be included. Again - not necessary but add extra immersion.. just like 5.1 or HD.

So, consider it - a year's time you're playing Respawn's new game and you're holed up in a map, stuck in prone so can't move your aiming much, using head tracking to check your sides instead of moving your gun, someone comes near you need a silent take down so you lift your hand to throw your knife for the kill - just to get the finesse considering you're prone - then get your shot off. You do your escape run, into a car, drive down the road with kinect tracking how you hold your game pad to 'kick in' some extra steering when you're turning your pad, use face tracking to look out the side windows.

Then you stop at the dz, you get on the turret of the vehicle and use the RS & trigger to lay the smack down whilst you take your left hand off the controller to auto-select the flare for pickup, and toss it using a seperate reticule from the turret, without having to get off it, select it, toss it then get back on.

Also add to this when your backup arrives you should be able to use hand gestures and voice comms to signal to your AI team mates what you want them to do, or targets to hit.

None of it is mandatory, none of it changes balance but it all adds immersion, *and* it's all done with one accessory. Immersion is what I like about good gaming.

I cannot imagine what bethesda/bioware/bungie will manage in a couple of years.

People think of it. But it defeats the purpose of Kinect. Once you throw a controller into the mix they have to lose the "innovative" and "revolutionary" tags that they've been using. Yes, the Kinect is already not either of those things. But to add a controller makes it even harder to promote as such with the Move on the market. By the way. . . I am not calling the Move anything here. I am not promoting the Move. The Move is a camera with a controller. If you add a controller to the Kinect it also becomes a camera with a controller.

Because it's not in line with bashing MS.

The fact that Kinect allows a tertiary input level with amazing subtlety is lost on the haters.

it's the only real way to add 'motion' to hardcore gaming imo. Allow use of the pad but accentuate it with reading the player's body and expression also.