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3D Doesn’t Look Like It’ll “Take Off” Says Microsoft

Think Sony’s company-wide 3D initiative will succeed? Wrong. That is, if you believe what Microsoft has to say about it.

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Anarki5846d ago

What did they say about blu-ray?

Pennywise5846d ago

MS doesn't know the first thing about being a trend setter. Monkey see, monkey do.

BeaArthur5846d ago

Too be fair, Live set the trend for console online gaming. Yeah, I know other systems had it before but nobody really played online before Live and online components weren't really being utilized until Live came around.

But yeah, they did say the same thing about Blu-ray. It's too early to tell if 3D is going to catch on or not. It's not even really up and going yet.

evrfighter5846d ago

3d is more of a fad not a trend

HolyOrangeCows5846d ago (Edited 5846d ago )

Microsoft sure talks about 3D a lot.
Sony and Nintendo starting to worry you, Microsoft?

Weaksauce11385845d ago

I guess you all have 3D TVs.. cause thats the only thing that would prove the article wrong.

captain-obvious5845d ago

MS said the same thing abou blu-ray and HD gaming

lol

GiggMan5845d ago

Built in WiFi wasn't necessary either....

Now it's a bullet point on the 360 S

sikbeta5845d ago (Edited 5845d ago )

Translation = We're WRONG again, but we're not going to accept it...

@evrfighter

Tell that To The Electronic manufacturers that will ditch HDTVs and Fully Support 3D, Sony is not the Only One Supporting 3D you know...

edgeofblade5845d ago (Edited 5845d ago )

Look, there is a difference between "taking off" and "dragged off the runway towed by irrational exuberance".

To continue the aviation metaphor, 3D is hardly an aerodynamic value proposition. Between the glasses, the content, and the panel itself, a lead blimp has a better chance of taking off.

I know why companies are pushing 3D. It's obvious: they have no where else to go next. They have to keep pushing new tech and selling new TV's. It's all about profit. That's the kind of thing that makes capitalism great. BUT it's also our job as consumers to look at things with an objective eye, and not fall victim to this gadget-whore culture.

evrfighter5845d ago

"Tell that To The Electronic manufacturers that will ditch HDTVs and Fully Support 3D"

heh it's been awhile since I got a good lol.

Patrick5845d ago (Edited 5845d ago )

The 3D will become standard in all TV's as electronic companies push it whether you use it or not. But I think people will use it. The same people that are saying these 3dtv's wont sell are the ones that said 3D movies wouldnt do that good but guess what, they are. Thats why ALOT of movies are coming out in 3D. Its only logical it move to homes as people who pay for it in theaters will pay for it at home. I know the Vizio 72" has my name on it in spring of 2011.

MRMagoo1235845d ago

If i could afford one ide buy one nuff said.

UltraNova5845d ago

I find it funny that some people insisting that N4G sucks because it has too many people pointing out MS's crap but they are still here commenting and crying about it...

Well it only does 'xbox fanboys cry'

raztad5845d ago (Edited 5845d ago )

I think it is worth to post in this thread one more time, to say

Damned haters will be KILLZOWN 3D

http://www.latenightwithjim...

kunit22c5845d ago

Why are you 360 fanboys so close minded?
Whatever Microsoft says you go with, no matter what! Its like you don't have a mind of your own, I mean theres not a SINGLE 360 fanboy in here saying otherwise! You guys really need to learn to think for yourselves.

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Shadow Flare5846d ago

Well according to MS, bluray wouldn't succeed and HD-DVD was the way to go. Go back a few years and apparently HDMI wasn't needed. And the thing i like about microsoft is that phrase they used to use 3 years ago, "It's all about choice". They said it a hell of alot. Why so many SKU's microsoft? "It's all about giving consumers the choice" said microsoft. Why are you releasing a HD-DVD add-on microsoft? "It's all about giving consumers the choice" said microsoft. So why aren't you making a blu-ray add-on or actively pursuing 3D gaming? "Well we don't think consumers are interested in it".

Lord Gunchrote5845d ago

The real answer they could give is "because we'd have to admit Sony was correct about a lot of tech ideas is why".

Lol...they'd rather be smug assholes than just add Blu ray and give the 360 another advantage.

sikbeta5845d ago

We know how this is going to End, 3D Becoming the Standard, the same way as Blu-Ray, another wrong speculation made by MS...

lzim5845d ago (Edited 5845d ago )

guys try not to forget that 1080p isn't exactly standard yet either. granted a big percentage of the market, some people are still happy with SDTV for games (Wii), TV shows (how many HD channels do you get versus SD?) and movies (so many people refuse to give up DVDs), and freely admit they don't care about HD because they don't see a difference. It'll be a while before those people will bother with 3D, mainly they'll have to be convinced by 3DTV shows and movies.

3D gaming on PC, 3DS and PS3 won't be enough to sway people into buying 3D TVs even if Microsoft chipped in with 3D titles that aren't just gimmicks (like if they used Kinect as an excuse to launch casual 3D gaming). But who would complain about glasses free 3D for all those things? you don't have to do anything, it is just there.

MS can keep waiting for glasses free 3D if they want to but they'll lose the advantage of being there first and being ready to provide robust experiences with their next console.

edgeofblade5845d ago (Edited 5845d ago )

Let's look at it this way: Sony is using their power as an end-to-end solution for things like 3D and Blu-ray to practically force these technologies on the market.

This isn't about Sony being better at predicting trends... it's Sony who is setting the trends and fulfilling their own prophesies.

See, I can do that too: I predict that when I finish typing this comment, I will have a need to click "Add Reply"... Let's see if my prediction pans out...

@Izim: I would love to see Microsoft pull off a 3D video chat. Imagine getting video chat that integrates the depth data Kinect provides. It's like Holonet from Star Wars.

WeaseL5845d ago (Edited 5845d ago )

I remeber that
Its about 1:10 the so called myth.
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

RageAgainstTheMShine5845d ago (Edited 5845d ago )

... and very long before M$ started doing hardware.

The walkman says hello
The discman says hello
The handycam says hello
The compact disc says hello
The PlayStation says hello

and Sony is not an innovator just a trying hard copy cat?

Hello, You got the picture, mates.

ravinash5845d ago (Edited 5845d ago )

Usally the people who keep saying HD isn't needed and they can't see a difference, are usally the ones who don't want to shell out for a new TV till to old one dies.

Your not going to get 3D on your standard picture set, so you'll be seeing a difference then.

If these people had their way, we would still be looking at black and white big TV boxes taking up half the living room.
The throught just makes me depressed. :-(

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Genesis55846d ago (Edited 5846d ago )

I like my Windows 7 OS. But MS devices division seems to have their head up their arse most of the time though.

lpfisher5846d ago

That's the thing; M$ is a great software company. I love Win. 7 and Zune and Live is definitely a well built machine. But their hardware sucks, straight up.

Alcon Caper5846d ago

So basically, he's saying that although he's not opposed to 3D in anyway whatsoever, he just wants his developers to focus on Kinect.

Seems reasonable enough and not really malicious...

lzim5845d ago

is it what consumers want? if you want motion controls, there's a hardware platform for that already. MS hasn't shown anything that makes Kinect better than what is already out there.

they'd have been better off launching a new console that actually could bring more to the table.

rkimoto5845d ago

Why do they keep asking questions that will give obvious answers?, What kind of "journalism" is that?, of course if I ask Microsoft about 3D they'll just brush it off, they're more interested in talking about THEIR products.

Examples:

Interviewer: "So, ummm, What do you think about motion controls?"

Micosoft: "Ours the greatest of them all, no controller needed!!!, all the others are light years away from us"

Sony: "Ours the greatest of them all, no lag and flapping arms around!!!, all the others are gimmicks"

Nintengo: "Ours the greatest of them all, we were first!!!, all the others copied us".

Interviewer: "Oook, so you three are the greatest, ummm, So what do you think about 3D?"

Microsoft: "Overrated fad, not here to stay, but our cameras can detect everything in 3D, so in a way we are pursuing the concept"

Sony: "Obviously we believe in the technology a lot, well we are putting a lot of eggs in that basket, but we don't see how it would be better for portable gaming"

Nintendo: "Will never stick for console gaming, only for portable gaming since you don't need glasses"

See a trend there???, stop asking stupid questions about things you already know the answers!!, get us better information since those guys are hard to reach and have limited time for interviews.

Besides, all new technologies help in the long run for better gaming experiences, disregard fanboyism since it just spreads FUD.

Alcon Caper5845d ago (Edited 5845d ago )

Better eh? Stock holders are already nipping at Microsoft's feet about their losses since the beginning of the century. To release another loss leader while still in the red would pretty much seal the coffin for MS's entertainment division. They're really trying to work with what they've got. And if that means releasing a new peripheral to add years to the console, then that's what it'll take.

The demand for both the 360 S and Kinect are seemingly pretty high according to recent articles. They're doing exactly what their goal was intending, to show their shareholders that their entertainment division is profitable.

avengers19785846d ago

Because MS doesn't support it, or because the 360 isn't capable of it.
I kind of have to agree with MS though I really don't think 3D will make it in the long run.

nycredude5846d ago

I guarantee that in about 2 years time you won't be able to get a new tv that isn't 3d compatible, and it will be cheap. So if all those people who buy a new tv in the future has the ability to use 3d with it you don't think they will try? After trying it, Some will not like it but many will. All the major companies are support, so just because MS isn't doesn't make it any less relevant.

IdleLeeSiuLung5845d ago

I think the issue is it will take years for mass adoption of 3D HDTV and by then, we are looking at the next generation of consoles. I think 3D is just for early adopters and manufacturers want another feature they can tack on a premium price as regular HDTVs prices are bottoming out.

Right now and moving into the future, very few people will be able to enjoy 3D. Prices are dropping fast, but you won't see current HDTV owners jumping the gun and upgrading including me.

UltimateIdiot9115845d ago

I admit I wasn't much of a believer in 3D kicking off or anything but after trying out some 3DTVs at my local Best Buy, I can see it becoming mainstream.

Microsoft has a lot of reason to not want 3D to kick off, one being is that they have nothing invested towards 3D. If 3D succeeds, Sony, and Nintendo are the first to receive credits and rewards.

ravinash5845d ago

Same, I checked out a 3D TV at John lewis, and even the wife was impressed.
One thing I'm waiting to see is if the 3D tech on the DS3D will be any good. because if it is and it does not need glasses, then its possible you might start seeing TVs coming out with the same tech.

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BARF5846d ago

3d is a way to sell tvs. It will work on me, but who in their right mind wouldn't want a 240hz tv?

kaos_fish II5846d ago

Kinda like back in 1981 when Bill Gates said nobody needed more than 640k of memory in a PC

BeaArthur5845d ago

Back then they didn't. Times change.

freshPiMP915845d ago

Why is that relevant to this topic? You just wrote it yourself...1981. Do you need 2 gigs of ram in 1981? NO. Microsoft is wrong but come on...be mature

dredgewalker5845d ago

@fresh
Chillax, they're just saying that nothing is set on stone......also making bad statements and predictions will haunt you for the rest of your life

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Keltik825846d ago

Track record, I wouldn't believe one word they say. Their straight up liars and they don't know the first thing about innovation or gaming, at least in the gaming industry.

They made fun of HDMI the made fun of Blu-Ray and those are all successes because of Sony, M$ keeps putting their foot in their mouths. If they didn't have the money to back them up they would have been gone LONG ago.

raztad5846d ago

Ms has no say in the TV market, they even supported the HD-DVD and look the outcome.

I'm not expecting 3D to become mainstream next year but as tech become cheaper, 3D TVs will become the norm.

FreeFalling5845d ago (Edited 5845d ago )

You can't bash Microsoft until you can tell me with absoulte certainty that you think 3D will become as popular as HD.

The reason people bought HD because its superior quality. 3D is something completely different, it's more of an alternate version.

Do you see everyone in the future always wearing 3D glasses at home watching their 3D TV's that currently range above the $2,000 range? 3D I believe should only work in cinemas, because there 3D is optimized for the movie itself. Generalized 3D on 3D TV's and in video games on TV will NEVER look as good I believe.

Keltik825845d ago

You have almost a valid point but remember, Tech changes A LOT and it changes quickly. When the T.V's become cheaper people will WANT 3D just like they pay $15+ for a 3D movie ticket, if they can watch it at home believe me they will, ESPECIALLY to play a game, c'mon that is just siiick!

FreeFalling5845d ago

I see your point as well, but the thing is, a person's perspective can go either way. So the bashing of views on this entire page is bias/ ignorant. That's what my main point was :l

Sarcasm5845d ago

Microsoft also said they didn't want to include Wi-Fi in the 360 because they don't want people paying for things they don't want.

marinelife95845d ago

I'm pretty sure Microsoft would have drafted Sam Bowie.

ManiacMansion5845d ago

what a comparison, lol!

there are over 100 devs around.. and the difference is HOW MANY will invest money for some games??

40 Million PS3 owners.. how many of them are pure gamer??

How many have NOW a 3d TV + glasses?? not even 1%...

and 1 % would be 400k PPL!!

so from the 400k ppl.. how many would buy a 3D game??

now you can calculate how many devs will spend their money on 3D... only Sonys studios.

3D will be a standart maybe for the next gen but not now.

raztad5845d ago

you fail.

The industry knows more than you.

Sony is definitely not alone pushing 3D. To be honest I think is MS who is isolated regarding this 3D thing.

vhero5845d ago

This is why MS are always a step behind. They were behind with HDMI, Behind with Nex Gen Disc Format, Behind in Hard Drives (PS3 future proof as acepts SSD) and behind in USB drives (only just allowing save transfer via usb). Now they are gonna be behind when it comes to 3D nothing new really. The 360 is always in the middle of the 3 consoles technologically.

lil Titan5845d ago

thats the type of $hit that make 3d going to take off even sooner. i mean come on microsoft thats your competition and whatever you say bad about the other guys, the loyal fans are going to make sure now that 3d is going to be the next big thing since sliced bread. if Sony was the sponsor for the inventor of the lightbulb and microsoft was a candle company they probably would say that the electricity wouldnt take off

gtamike5845d ago

All comments above is ownage :)

ImmortalLegend5845d ago

Until I don't have to wear fucking glasses to experience 3D, I don't give a crap about it. 3D is still a gimmick imo.

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hardcore19125846d ago

Yeah, whatever Microsoft, whatever.

cossie1235846d ago

3d wont take off its a fad.
there are also health risks with long term use

Inside_out5846d ago (Edited 5846d ago )

When 3D does not require glasses, I think it will have a chance to be successful. That tech is not far off and there was one group showcasing it live at E3.

HDTV's have really come down in price and now these guys want everybody to pay double for a new 3D compatible TV. Either way it's a ways off. 1% of households have a 3D compatible TV. Still too early to dedicate all your resources to it. M$ has a 3D bundle deal with LG signed in April, doesn't matter. M$ is just stating the obvious. If it takes off, M$ is prepared, they always are.

Check out this vid...it's 5 months old... check out at 1:36...Sony who???...LOL

nycredude5846d ago

There is also health risks long term use of a keyboard and mouse and staring at a computer screen all day.

n4gno5845d ago

Yeah, look at cez of rage, his brain died a long time ago because of that.

Focker4205846d ago

There are health risks for watching normal television also. Does that prevent people from watching it?! Of course not.

UltimateIdiot9115845d ago

There is a health risk of leaving your cellphone on near you for a long period of time. There is a health risk to everything we use these days.

The only things that seem to stop people are the ones with noticeable and immediate effects.

As the technology improves, the "risk" lessens.

skip2mylou5845d ago

theirs also a health risk of lifting weights!!! :O theirs a health risk that the radiation in batteries are supposed to mess with the genitals :O

theirs a health risk with everything if you never noticed

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Halochampian5846d ago

i dont see it happening, yet. Maybe down the road a few years. But I could be wrong.

MorganX5846d ago

The road is getting long. 3D has been around a long time and hasn't taken off. The glasses are the primary problem. Keep in mind, Virtual Reality failed as well. For gaming, it's the control. Controls are 2D. 3D controls are expensive and cumbersome. The road will remain long except for movies. The glasses will keep 3D for movies somewhat limited. People who wear glasses have to wear contacts is another issue.

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(For Southeast Asia) New Price Changes for PS5, PS5 Pro, and PlayStation Portal remote player

For Southeast Asia, new price changes.

Prices effective starting May 1st, 2026.

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BeHunted59d ago

Looks like PlayStation took a hit with Marathon and is now quietly adjusting prices worldwide to recover the losses

andy8559d ago

Lets be honest raising prices doesn't do that when no one's buying it. I imagine the profit it greater selling 10 times more at a lower price

Pergele59d ago

Whatever you say buddy, let's all wear the tinfoil hats.

IceKoldKilla59d ago (Edited 59d ago )

LMFAO Your comment alone says a lot more about you than anything else. When has one game not selling 10 million copies made a company raise the prices of their console? Then Xbox would be costing $5000 by now lol. You remind of the crazy drug addicts on the street rambling on about conspiracies. xD You sure you don't need a hug, buddy?

ChunkyMonk59d ago

One game that Sony payed $200 million for. lol
Also, you sure were quick to get triggered. Maybe your the one who needs a hug?

Eonjay59d ago

If nothing else, we should be united against the real issue here. AI and unnecessary tariffs that are effecting all gamers.

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Athlon10159d ago (Edited 59d ago )

The price increases are due to the RAM demand associated with AI and the US-Iran war. You can look to any business news website and local news to see that. Heck, even the 2026 Asus Zenbook Duo I've been eyeing has faced delays and has had a price increase of $400; that laptop has two specs. Asus is doing a staggered release with per-orders for the lower spec now and shipping in May and pre-orders for the higher spec that I'm eyeing starting in June. Basically, all computer manufactures are affected. It'll most likely start affecting smart phones too if it hasn't already. I can't remember the last time any major console maker (Nintendo, Sony, Sega, etc) increased the price of their console mid cycle outside of Microsoft just to make more profit.

S2Killinit59d ago

Its not the war. Its the RAM issue.

jznrpg58d ago

War is causing gas prices to rise. Transport of everything requires gas so the prices of those items go up as well. So it does have an impact

Athlon10158d ago (Edited 58d ago )

The blockage of the Straight of Hormuz due to the US-Iran war has affected raw components used in semi-conductor manufacturing such as bromine, aluminum, and helium. Iran had attacked the liquified natural gas (LNG) plant in Qatar which is a large producer (1/3 globally) of helium which is used in semiconductor etching. So it's the both the war and the RAM crises.

badz14959d ago

Oh no...should I get the Pro now before the price increase?

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Former Xbox Exec Says Developers Didn't Want a Sony Monopoly

Former Xbox executive Ed Fries comments on the early days of Xbox, the opinion of Japanese game companies, and more.

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Reaper22_72d ago

I dont think that'll ever happen. But i must say back in the day, they were definitely trying because they were more cash rich than their competitors.

CosmicTurtle72d ago

I think MS were and still are the richer company. They tried to acquire Sega back in the day (and considered doing so again more recently), they obviously bought exclusivity to Halo which was originally shown as a Mac title. I don’t think as a company MS can claim the moral high ground here. It’s a wilful lack of self awareness.

Of course Sony would try exactly the same if they had the resources, but when the PS2 dominated the industry was in a much healthier place with an abundance of great third parties.

This has been a depressing generation as far as first party decisions are concerned. The fact we are debating business plans rather than which game is better is a sad reflection of the state of things.

Darkseeker72d ago (Edited 72d ago )

There was Nintendo as well, Sony wouldn't have had a monopoly. In fact, the world would be better today if Xbox never existed in the first place. They pretty much brought all bad practices we have today. We might have gotten all of it either way, but not this early. In term of franchises, I don't think there is anything Microsoft released that would actually be missed if it didn't exist. Even Halo the world wouldn't notice if Halo didn't exist.

S2Killinit72d ago

MS was definitely a bad influence on gaming.

raWfodog72d ago

I think almost everyone will agree that a monopoly is not good for the industry. But that being said, the competition needs to be smart and strategic with their business. Simply buying up publishers and traditional third-party studios just to keep them out of the other companies reach is not a sustainable practice. That goes for all parties so don't think I'm just referring to Xbox.

I'm no business guru by any stretch of the imagination but I firmly believe that the best way to drive consumers to your software and hardware is to invest smart in your first-party studios. Give them full support and guidance in making unique, fun games that are only available to play in your ecosystem and the gamers will come.

Reaper22_72d ago (Edited 72d ago )

But first party studios aren't enough. They only make up a small portion of the industry. Without 3rd party there would be no industry for Microsoft or sony.Developing games take time and money and sometimes you gotta make moves to stay competitive.

raWfodog72d ago

Nah, I never said first-party was enough. I said it’s the ‘best way’ to drive gamers to your platform. 3rd-party is a free-for-all and there’s no guarantee that gamers will use your hardware to play the game. If you want to push your own software and/or hardware you need first-party, or at least exclusive deals with third-party studios.

SimpleDad72d ago

They Shure did a great job... 25 years later Xbox is dead.

Reaper22_72d ago

Then why be so emotional and continue to talk about it. Xbox will never die be ause it stays in so many people's head.

lodossrage72d ago

How can you even see him being "emotional" in that comment?

If anything, you're the emotional one, constantly trying to go at anyone that says anything against Microsoft. So when you call him emotional, it comes off as deflection

Elda72d ago

I own an XBSX & I can say it's becoming irrelevant out of the 3 current consoles.

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Sony Shows Off 20 Minutes of Crimson Desert on a Base PS5

Sony uploaded gameplay footage of Crimson Desert on a base PS5 running in what appears to be Quality Mode at a stable 30fps at 4K.

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BlazedKong98d ago

looks god awful on the base systems