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Kinect to extend Xbox 360 lifecycle for five years

Microsoft's Chris Lewis has told GamesIndustry.biz that the new Kinect controller and the new, slimmer Xbox 360 consoles extends the lifespan of the product through to 2015.

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Wrathman5817d ago

oooh i think thats a massive mistake from xbox.

Karooo5817d ago (Edited 5817d ago )

am cry. they need to make profit from the xbox now invest in new xbox, this gen has just started.

Conloles5817d ago

And so every year the graphical power of GPU's will continue to double what is currently offered in 360 and PS3 but alas we'll be held back by these consoles. Thanks a lot youve added a lot to the gaming industry, making it the norm to pay for a subscription, making it the norm to pay for DLC, making it the norm for exclusive DLC cheers!

GrieverSoul5817d ago

The economy aint helping either! Every developer complains about the development process in each console cycle. That costs millions!

MicroSoft are being smart! They know few developers would actually invest their low resources in a new console with a small install base. With all the talk from great developers asying they are going multiplat due to costs, people actually think a new console would rise?! Either its a console from a competitor (like Nintendo or Apple) but with slightly more power on them or a if it was more powerfull it would be receiving ports from the lower PS3 and X360 versions.

AtatakaiSamurai5817d ago (Edited 5817d ago )

looks like that chubear guy was right. interesting

hmmmm5817d ago

@Conloles

'making it the norm to pay for DLC'

Well what console before the xbox had DLC? I realise the pc had free content from developers for a long time and they still do, but it happened (to the best of my knowledge) first on Xbox with Xbox Live.

It's fine to pick and choose the 'bad' things that microsoft has brought to the gaming industry but atleast give them credit for the many good things they have brought too.

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Substance1015817d ago

Both Sony and Microsoft are in losses. What do you expect them to do?

They need to profit to make a new console. Introducing a new console will just mean taking more losses and resetting the current client base.

dangert125817d ago

how does the 360 slim exspand its life span unless the liturally cause its more reliable, so microsoft what are you gonna do for people like me who ain't falling for natal and its crap hardware cause it, if i don't have it how is my 360 lasting another 5 years please tell me

PhoenixDevil5817d ago

I was speaking to a complete 360 fanboy he was telling me how the new 360 is going to kick the ps3s ass n whatnot but he also proclaimed it was more powerful, that would increase the life span but if developers make games for the new 360 the old 360s should still play it so rly the new 360 doesnt add any kind of life in my opinion

arny5817d ago

there will be 5 disc xbox games by then

DuneBuggy5817d ago

Not if some future games are available on a flash drive or downloaded.....

Heisenberg5817d ago

and release a blockbuster game only through DLC or flash drive (which isn't an option anyway), they'd be missing out on a huge chunk of the market.

HarryM5817d ago

Well of course you'd say that; your picture is one of a PS3..

ProjectVulcan5817d ago (Edited 5817d ago )

I dont see it. Sony and nintendo will both launch new consoles before then, and microsoft will be forced into either the same action but far too late or disappear from the game. I would already be willing to bet they have plans on the table for a new machine. Its a concerted PR effort to focus attention on the current hardware and a real push to focus in on kinect, a PR assault to show how they truly believe kinect is the future of their brand.

The lure of a new generation is always far too strong for many people. I would take this with a pinch of salt, The industry is a very dynamic environment and can change rapidly inside two or three years. This generation is as good an example as any....

osamaq5817d ago

Sony stated that the PS3 will last 10 years that's means 2016
and Nintendo every 5 years launch new hardware and after the DS3d in 2011 five more years that's 2016 , so
MS new console in 2015
sony 2016
Nintendo 2016 , very reasonable .

the same before MS 2005, Sony 2006 , Nintendo 2006 .

ProjectVulcan5817d ago (Edited 5817d ago )

aaaaaaaaand if you read the article you should know that there is a difference between the words 'lifespan, lifecycle' of a console and the appearance of a new generation....This article suggests in the TITLE there will be no replacement, and microsoft will continue with 360 as their flagship machine through to 2015. Which is unlikely. If you read the text of the article instead of the header title created by the site themselves, the words used relate to the overall lifespan, and does not mean the same as denying a new machine will come before 2015.

PS3 will indeed likely be around into its tenth year, and just like PS1 or PS2 i doubt it will still be sony's flagship home console. It took six years after PS1 for PS2 to appear, and another five and a half for PS3. PS3 will probably last longer and 360 already has compared to xbox, but ten years without a new machine is pushing it in my opinion.

Thankyou, come again

commander5817d ago

Ps2 lived for 6 years before sony launched the ps3. The ps3 launched in 2006 so I would expect a new ps console at 2012 or worse case 2013. When they say 10years they dont mean 10years till a new console. The mean 10years on the market. Reading is fundamental.

MorganX5817d ago

Only if Sony exploits Blu-ray for games. With 802.11n and a richer netflix experience, ESPN, Zune Market, I don't think Blu-ray for movies is an advantage anymore. Especially with dedicated players going for $89. One of the biggest selling points for BD players now is having Netflix.

But if Sony can help/encourage developers to exploit the storage space for gaming then it will hurt MS. Otherwise, MS actually has the upperhand with built-in 802.11n. I don't think people realize how big a deal that is. They already have a superior online service/servers.

Rear USB is also quite nice now that it supports 16G of USB storage.

Time will tell.

Samus HD5817d ago

and i hope they don't change it

Red-Dead-Roar5817d ago

why would you like a new xbox? it's not like it's maxed out or anything..

JsonHenry5817d ago (Edited 5817d ago )

I figured MS and Sony were gonna use this motion control and 3D stuff to help extend the consoles loooonnnnggggg after we should have had a new one in our hands. But I didn't think it would be that long.

Glad I am a PC gamer too though..

Inside_out5817d ago (Edited 5817d ago )

When they start getting clubbed in the head by the competition and piracy more than they are now, they'll start singing a different tune. New console in 2012. That's why Gears 2 was SUPPOSE to be the last one, extended to 3 but Unreal 4 will power the next Gears. E3 2011 will start the hype train. Holiday 2012 will feature Gears and Halo as launch titles.

This is all posturing. Nintendo will begin to lose more and more market share. They will have no choice but to go HD. I think if Sony could develop a killer app for not only the move but also 3D using blu-ray. M$ and Nintendo would have to move forward...of course, that's a big IF. Right now nothing on PS3 outsells the top titles on 360/Wii. Not even close.

Holiday 2010 will be a big factor. If Wii mantains and M$ gains...they will have no reason for change. I guess what I'm saying is " GO Sony ".

D4RkNIKON5817d ago

At least they are supporting this console.. *cough* original xbox *cough*

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TheLeprachaun5817d ago

As usual, this means they'll be supporting the xbox 360 until 2015, not that there won't be a new console until then. I'd say we can expect an xbox successor sometime in 2012/2013.

Aloren5817d ago

Why are people disagreeing with you ? I'd say you're right ;)...

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Titanz5817d ago

So I think 360 and PS3 could have a longer console cycle because of their advance hardware.

Omega45817d ago

If Kinect is a success there is no way they can release a new xbox until at least 3 years, cause the new xbox will have Kinect 2 and that would annoying a lot of current owners.

SCThor5817d ago

what else will they map? your ass?? your fanboyism?

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio25d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing25d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9225d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit25d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing25d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9225d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay27d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn228d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers28d ago (Edited 28d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn227d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown27d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos27d ago (Edited 27d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay27d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay27d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac27d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger27d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300027d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde27d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood27d ago (Edited 27d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde27d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7529d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_26d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.