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Why PlayStation Move and Kinect will fail

The E3 press conferences have wrapped up nicely and both Sony and Microsoft have shown a dedication to motion control gaming with the PlayStation Move and Kinect respectively. It seemed not too long ago when Sony ruled the gaming world and pundits considered Nintendo dead in the water. Just four years after Nintendo’s Wii release, the tides have certainly shifted. As the big dogs play catch up with the company that defined the words “entertainment system,” Sony and Microsoft showed that neither company fully comprehends what has set Nintendo apart this generation.

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Baltis5806d ago

I don't think they will fail really. I don't think the core group that is looking at these devices are the big picture. I think this is an opportunity for Sony and for Microsoft to build a new faction within their already strong user base. I wish people would stop and think about the industry as a business and what could make it better or what could make it succeed instead of always talking about why it sucks or why this product is going to fail.

I see these devices as new targets and a supplemental way to play. Not "THE" way to play. Anyone else agree?

captain-obvious5805d ago

"Why PlayStation Move and Kinect will fail"
because of the wii

deadreckoning6665805d ago (Edited 5805d ago )

Yeah, I agree. The sales of both Move and Kinect will be underwhelming due to the Wii and the 3DS. The 3DS will without a doubt be the most bought gaming product in history if its price between 200-250 dollars.

e-p-ayeaH- What's wrong with a little speculation? If you don't like it..why are u here?

Cevapi885805d ago

with the Move, i could see a following of core gamers since the tech already has support for games that the casual crowd isnt interested in...KZ3, Sorcery, SOCOM...Kinect on the other hand has been an all out campaign to hook the casual crowd on a new way to play games and by the end of the holiday season we will see what the results will be

IMO i see more PS3 core gamers buying the Move, while more casual gamers will go after Kinect

Elimin85805d ago (Edited 5805d ago )

I just wonder why people complain about things that are meant to enhance their already great gameplay experience.. I think if it does not hinder the gamers they should just embrace the option or Opt out.. If it's not for you, pass. If it is, more power to you or for you...

My 2cents..

darthv725805d ago

for either to fail will be the result of lack of dedicated development. Pretty much anything could fail on that note. You come out with something but dont encourage support for it. Look at the nintendo modem/bba. Look at rob the robot. look at any type of add on from consoles past that were initially seperate from the main unit. Yes that includes cd rom drives (sega, nec, atari etc).

Where these could fail due to lack of development would be in the multiplat games. You figure currently the control differences are due to button layout and input restrictions. Throw motion into the mix and it will get to a point where there WONT be any multiplat games as it would be to much trouble to make one game for the move and the same game without it.

I do believe sony may be trying to cover to many bases. I really think 3d is their main focus and move will take a back seat. Yes games could be patched for move support but sony is full on backing 3d because they are content creators (movies/tv) and hardware developers (tv's/cameras). They want 3d to dominate like bluray did and are using their influence in the media market and tv market to try and make that happen.

Motion controls for them seemed to be a quick way to take on the wii. It will progress if sony fully supports it but if they turn their attention towards their main goal (IMO 3D) then that leaves all the 2nd/3rd party devs to do it themselves.

At least with MS you know they are committed to kinect because they dont really have any other front to focus on. As far as their console goes, they are committed to making the system and to spark interest in games for both kinect and regular. They dont have a handheld market to worry about. They dont have 3d games and tv's to push.

I say, between the two, kinect has the better chance due to them having fewer fronts to try and battle on. Sony is almost becoming the next sega. Spreading themselves thin trying to do so many things at the same time. That could be good or bad depending on if consumers are willing to follow.

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Christopher5805d ago

Fail, a word people don't seem to really understand and want to use to define something that won't perform better than something else.

Sarcasm5805d ago

What's a fail and what's a Success?

Many people see the PSPgo as a fail, yet according to Sony it's selling as forecasted.

Many people see the Xbox 360 RRODing as a fail. Yet 360 fanboys spin it as a success story with the 3 year warranty. And they bashed and bashed how the PS3 is terrible hardware, yet now that MS is releasing a new 360 that's close to a PS3, it's a Success.

So Fail is in the eyes of the fanboys. Success is in the eyes of the companies.

Daoshai5805d ago

Nice biased comment there. Pathetic.

Cheeseknight285805d ago

Well Sony has my money if Ape Escape 4 turns out to be even remotely decent. Hopefully someone will have Move a bit cheaper for black friday though.

Redgehammer5805d ago (Edited 5805d ago )

agree with you completely. Have a bubble for being willing to view an issue objectively

Edit This reply was for Baltis, I am puzzled as to why several of my replies get positioned randomly within the comment threads.

beans5805d ago

The Wii had tons of hype by the media and PS3 360 fanboys before it's release. If the same level of hype would occur for kinect or move we would see this same type of rush happen. The problem is most of you people are to busy hating MS and Sony to really help change the way this gen has been going. Nintendo can hype of Wii all they want but there success is partly thanks to us. Move and Kinect will only fail if we as gamers don't stop being little trolls and be honest for once.

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e-p-ayeaH5805d ago

speculation at its best...pointless article

BeaArthur5805d ago

I don't know that they will fail but I don't think they are going to be ubber successful.

DelbertGrady5805d ago

Speculation, speculation and more speculation. It's like someones Pach-attacking N4G.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio11d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing11d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9211d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit11d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing11d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9211d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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(For Southeast Asia) New Price Changes for PS5, PS5 Pro, and PlayStation Portal remote player

For Southeast Asia, new price changes.

Prices effective starting May 1st, 2026.

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BeHunted13d ago

Looks like PlayStation took a hit with Marathon and is now quietly adjusting prices worldwide to recover the losses

andy8513d ago

Lets be honest raising prices doesn't do that when no one's buying it. I imagine the profit it greater selling 10 times more at a lower price

Pergele13d ago

Whatever you say buddy, let's all wear the tinfoil hats.

IceKoldKilla13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

LMFAO Your comment alone says a lot more about you than anything else. When has one game not selling 10 million copies made a company raise the prices of their console? Then Xbox would be costing $5000 by now lol. You remind of the crazy drug addicts on the street rambling on about conspiracies. xD You sure you don't need a hug, buddy?

ChunkyMonk13d ago

One game that Sony payed $200 million for. lol
Also, you sure were quick to get triggered. Maybe your the one who needs a hug?

Eonjay12d ago

If nothing else, we should be united against the real issue here. AI and unnecessary tariffs that are effecting all gamers.

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Athlon10113d ago (Edited 13d ago )

The price increases are due to the RAM demand associated with AI and the US-Iran war. You can look to any business news website and local news to see that. Heck, even the 2026 Asus Zenbook Duo I've been eyeing has faced delays and has had a price increase of $400; that laptop has two specs. Asus is doing a staggered release with per-orders for the lower spec now and shipping in May and pre-orders for the higher spec that I'm eyeing starting in June. Basically, all computer manufactures are affected. It'll most likely start affecting smart phones too if it hasn't already. I can't remember the last time any major console maker (Nintendo, Sony, Sega, etc) increased the price of their console mid cycle outside of Microsoft just to make more profit.

S2Killinit12d ago

Its not the war. Its the RAM issue.

jznrpg12d ago

War is causing gas prices to rise. Transport of everything requires gas so the prices of those items go up as well. So it does have an impact

Athlon10112d ago (Edited 12d ago )

The blockage of the Straight of Hormuz due to the US-Iran war has affected raw components used in semi-conductor manufacturing such as bromine, aluminum, and helium. Iran had attacked the liquified natural gas (LNG) plant in Qatar which is a large producer (1/3 globally) of helium which is used in semiconductor etching. So it's the both the war and the RAM crises.

badz14913d ago

Oh no...should I get the Pro now before the price increase?

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay13d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn213d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn212d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown13d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay13d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay13d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac12d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger13d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300013d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde13d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde12d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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