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Kinect: We Try Out Microsoft’s Motion Technology at E3

WSJ: Microsoft has been teasing the videogame industry for the past year with previews of technology that lets users play games and interact with the Xbox 360 through gestures and voice rather than by pressing buttons on a controller. The company finally unveiled what it is now calling Kinect at this week’s E3 trade show and demoed games that are expected to be available when the motion technology goes on sale in November.

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rock_solid5809d ago

kinect is the best solution for casual gamers market. since they don't play games.

sajj3165809d ago

How is it the best solution for the casual 'gamer' when they don't play 'games'? You mean its 'best' solution for the non gamer.

Redlogic5809d ago

How can anyone on this website (lets admit something straight away, if you are on this website, then you are a core gamer) be touting Kinect? How can you say, this isn't for me, its for casuals? I don't understand how that is something to be happy about. I'd be annoyed if my console of choice decided to ditch me in what is their next big project.

MS needs the people who already own an Xbox to buy into Kinect. No way MS puts enough of a dent into the casual market without the word of mouth from the hardcore gamers who will be first to adopt add-ons. So I don't wanna hear it from people saying, well Kinect isn't for me its for the casuals...I call bullsh*t. It's OK to say you are disappointed in the games that were shown. That doesn't make you a traitor.

Why o why5809d ago (Edited 5809d ago )

but I disagree with ya because many of the honest 360 crowd and even some of the extreme fanboys have expressed an honest level of disappointment. Truth is that casual games can also be fun so i can understand some of kinects defenders. Some people do actually have friends and families/ small kids that would love kinect. For me the ps3's move will be enough and this can also be said for some 360 fans with kinect.

@ wages

E3 maybe

dont listen to what they say...WATCH their actions

OF course they're not stopping core games but its obvious they are shifting towards the casual crowd

wages of sin5809d ago (Edited 5809d ago )

Microsoft has said that it is no longer making core games for their core audience. Show me one scrap of evidence that Kinect is never going to be used with core games.

You can't. Thanks for complaining.

@Parapraxis,
Why would you disrespect the mans wife like that? What is wrong with you people.

@Why,
No, it's not obvious they are shifting towards a "casual" market. What is obvious is that they are trying to expand. You people act as if you will never see another "core" game again on 360.

You say "E3 maybe". What does that mean? So they showe Kinectimals and from that you decide all that? The also showed Miziguchi San playing Child of Eden. What should we deduct from that? Core games aren't going anywhere and we will see Kinect used in ways that the supposed "hardcore" will like. Just remember, you're not hardcore becuase of what genre of games you play. But this generation is all about graphics and being "cool" so I don't know why I'm surprised by the lack of imagination, intelligence or insight.

Redlogic5809d ago

I think that MS's E3 was a pretty clear indication of where their mind is it. Don't act like they aren't focusing a majority of their attention on Kinect. I never said that they weren't making games for the core audience anymore, but it sure seems like they aren't focused on the gamers who made that console what it is today.

And show me a scrap of evidence that shows it has the core in mind...

darthv725809d ago (Edited 5809d ago )

@rock: Not everyone will share that same sentement. I think there is potential for kinect just as there is potential for move. It is really up to the devs to be creative in how to use both.

Remember now, they are both the same idea but different in execution. Where before you had a multiplatform game that had to conform to the differences in button layout on the controllers. Now if the multiplatform game were to have this new motion included, they need to adapt to either wand play vs hands free. I dont know if that is even plausible but I will give benefit of the doubt to both.

I think people need to just relax a bit and soak in the games shown instead of how you will be playing them in the future. As it gets closer to each expect to read more on the fine details of both.

@red: well said. As a gamer I play all games. Good and bad and even though i may not agree with some of the decisions made regarding certain games, I can respect the developers intent on trying new ideas to keep this industry fresh.

Core or casual, motion or virtual, change is upon us. How we embrace that change helps define what we enjoy in life. I choose to give it all at least a chance before saying no thank you.

Parapraxis5809d ago (Edited 5809d ago )

"Kudo Tsunoda, who led the Kinect project, can attest to this. He says he’s lost weight since he started working on the technology. “My wife loves it. She can use the television (easily now)"

Holy SH!T, how dumb is Tsunoda's wife! O_o

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bviperz5809d ago

Maybe I hit the panic button a little too early when MS showed more exclusive casual games than hardcore games at E3. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and just wait and see. But 2 or 3 hardcore exclusives a year just will not cut if for me.

ApocalypseShadow5809d ago

"lets wait."

"i'm going to wait until E3."

"wait,we need to see the final camera."

"let's wait until TGS and such."

KEEP WAITING.

microsoft played poker with sony and got called on their bluff.so microsoft is trying to buy the whole poker tournament with celebrities and smoke and mirrors.

wake up 360 fans.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio14d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing14d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9214d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit14d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing14d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9214d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay16d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn217d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn216d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown17d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay16d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay16d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac16d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger17d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300017d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde17d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde16d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7518d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_16d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.