ive seen the graphics for rage and i think killzone 2 looks better than rage, let alone killzone 3. i am not saying rage looks bad, very far from it, but can we not come to a resonable understanding?

No doubt rage will look fantastic, im really excited. And the guy must be a genious. and with the very complicated technology with the cell from the Playstation 3. the Cell processor can be split into four components: external input and output structures, the main processor called the Power Processing Element (PPE) (a two-way simultaneous multithreaded Power ISA v.2.03 compliant core), eight fully-functional co-processors called the Synergistic Processing Elements, or SPEs, and a specialized high-bandwidth circular data bus connecting the PPE, input/output elements and the SPEs, called the Element Interconnect Bus or EIB.

but i am almost positive the specs on the xbox360 are not powerful enough to match the specs needed to create uncharted 2. such as follows.
* 7 x SPE @3.2GHz
* 7 x 128b 128 SIMD GPRs
* 7 x 256KB SRAM for SPE
* * 1 of 8 SPEs reserved for redundancy total floating point performance: 218 GFLOPS

GPU: RSX @550MHz

* 1.8 TFLOPS floating point performance
* Full HD (up to 1080p) x 2 channels
* Multi-way programmable parallel floating point and

sad thing is

crysis from 2007 still rape anythin thats out or coming out

Judge these games when their done because Crysis 2 is launching this holiday and Rage and Killzone 3 still have a long way to go before they go gold.

I guess the developers of Rage found a way to use around 8gb of space and made a game that is graphically superior to KZ3 and Crysis. They must be from another dimension or something

Only here u will find delusional people.....rage is leaps and bounds ahead of any tech from sony & microsoft............rage dosnt only look better than Killzone 3 it looks waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better! goodness only on N4G.....lol

If Rage can look like that on a 360 show me what it can look like on a PS3. Rage and Crysis 2 are nothing compared to Killzone 3.

to N4realGMRZ
It really doesn't.You may want it to but you may be the delusional one.Crysis,Killzone 3 and Rage all look very good.Much of which looks better will come down to preferred art design.From a technical point of view,it's hard to tell but watching the video of Rage it was not as good as the hype on here suggested.Killzone 3 still looks like the king to me.Maybe some are too desperate for 360 to have a game to prove it's tech worth.The makers of Crysis and Rage say their games run slightly better on PS3 though.

Killzone 3 looks better than Crysis 2(360) and Rage(360).

I personally think Rage(360) looks better than Crysis 2(360)

I want to see how the PS3 version of Rage and Crysis 2 compare to Killzone 3

did they say move over killzone 3...here comes rage?....AHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA LMFAOOOOOOOO funnay joke...

The Tech 5 Engine is one hell of impressive engine and this small video of it doesn't do it justice. Watch this on G4TV on your TV and you will agree that this is the best looking game on any console. Look at the mountains in the background no hiccups or frame tearing like many of those open world games that use the unreal 3 engine. Killzone 3 looks great, but I think even if its the alpha build, it wouldn't look too much better then that early build, more like Killzone 2.5, and Crysis 2 looks great too, but the least great out of the 2. I know i'm going to get some disagrees lol!!! Know this I stand by my opinion, Rage is better.

I'm like the biggest PS3 fanboy on this site but Rage looks absolutely stunning. Not even Crysis 2 or Killzone 3 can touch it.

The freaking game is an open world running at 60fps with impressive detail and 720p resolution! For god's sake are you listening? 60fps, open-world, 720p? When was the last time a console game did that? NEVER! Seriously, we need devs to start using the megatexture technique, are you seeing those amazing textures? I'm sorry but that easily surpass Uncharted 2 and it's on Xbox....

Some people will be in total denial while others will cry but Rage will be the best looking game on console when it comes out, no doubt about it.

All three titles look really good honestly. Killzone 3 is my first choice in the 3 games though. Rage comes in a very close second while Crysis 2 is pulling up the end. I will be getting both Killzone 3 and Rage when they release I will not however be getting Crysis 2.

Im sorry what...!!!

they let anybody submit articles

Seriously, nothing can match Killzone 3 graphically. If you say otherwise you're just blind.

I don't understand it with some of you guys. Back in the days of PS2 most games used pre-baked lighting/shadows because the hardware wasn't powerful enough to render realtime dynamic lighting. Then the xbox showed up and when I got to play Riddick:Escape from Butcher Bay I was floored. Finally a console game where every lightsource produced shadows, every object in-game projecting shadows all over the place.

And now, Rage comes in 2010 and what do I see? STATIC PRE-BAKED LIGHT/SHADOWS. F.ck this. I don't give a damn about 60fps if Id/Carmack had to sacrifice realtime dynamic lighting to achieve it. After being spoiled with lighting in METRO 2033 and PC Crysis, Carmack expects me to accept cheap-ass prebaked lighting? No thanks.

Crysis 2 and KZ3 while only runs at 30fps, gives you all the top graphics features that define today's console graphics.

The PC version of RAGE will be a blast, the 360 version looked good, but Killzone 3 is without doubt the best looking console game so far.

Well, Rage in motion can have an advantage in graphics, considering it is running in 60fps, compared to only 30fps for Killzone 3 and Crysis

@To all fanboys reading this...killzone 3 looks stunning,but not that stunning as crysis2!even on the 360!!It has more textures(a lot more objects than just grey,black,white,sometimes metallic and in general more variety of coloured objects)more destructable enviroments(which most are baked in killzone3,since no matter where you shoot them,have the same result)physics,and enough action going on the screen without hitching!!it did nt need a blue ray to do this!!
as almost all fanboys here think that since its on blue ray..all textures are better(boy,how many times have they ve been wrong about textures and detail in multyplatform comparisons..I lost count a while ago..)!As I said in a previous comment...if both rage and crysis were ps3 exclusives,they would all start raving about their graphics and could care less about the supposed halo killer wannabe exclusive...
but now that they found out out that a "lesser"and older machine is capable,to deliver better graphic results than their so called 3 times powerfull system(again shown in multyplatforms,since m$ does nt have that able studios that sony has),they try to convince all others,that we are blind and that only they know quality..
(as if they have enough exclusives that can match their inferior-to-360-multyplayer counterparts,in terms of gameplay...only uncharted and to some extend the GOW3,which was a stunning hd GoW with small campaign..if kidzone2 did nt have graphics it would flop,campaign nothing that special,and multy worse than the cod behemoths..and certainly,not halo killer!)
graphics wise,crysis 2 is the better,even if it is nt 60fps like the also awesome rage,but has more eye candy than Rage.. dont know what the campaign expirience is all about,hope that its not like the first crysis..which was just...good,not awesome as cod or halo or mass effect1+2,same for Rage!As for kidzone3,lets hope that this time it has a campaign good enough to match its graphics..doubtfull though..thank god it has animations..cause its artistically grey boring inviroments of the second instalment,were nt enough to make in the ten best fps of all time..like halo..Truth spoken!!

For what I've seen of Rage,It's nothing of another world. Looks good but I'm not impressed.

After watching the vid. I'm sorry but Rage is nothing special at all. The enviroment is very static with hardly anything moving and looks dead. Hardly more than 2 enemies on screen at once, no particle, lighting or other effects which were in KZ2. Animation of enemies is terrible and framerate also stutters.
360 fanboys have reached a new level of desparation trying to compare a game that reminds me of Borderlands to KZ2 and Uncharted2.

http://e-mpire.com/content/...

"As we've known for some time now, the mega-texture system has some funky troubles with dynamic lighting, some shadows appearing painted onto textures, others seeming dynamically generated on player characters and NPCs, the depth/blackness of shadows not quite matching across the two methods. The result is only subtly jarring, but criticisms of the game that suggest characters seem "placed" upon beautiful (but static) landscapes are valid."

This explains the static lighting. It's the fault of the engine. How is Rage going to pull off an open world experience convincingly without the use of realtime day/night transition? This is my major beef with Rage. It tries to be open world but it's engine limits what it can do to enhance open world experience with it's static lighting.

I do however, agree that Rage has pretty textures. But it's definitely not as impressive when you take into account other things such as lighting, particle effects, post-process effects, destructible environments, per object motion blur, SSAO, etc.

if you took away the physics side of the PS3 and just left it with the GPU as having the main capabilities and not the Cell then KZ and other games would not look that good, UC2 has proven that the PS3 can do textures but it's not the GPU doing the real work, but despite the GPU lacking it is the physics or number crunching that the PS3 can dish out that gives it an edge, Rage, Crysis 2, Gears of War 3, Halo Reach etc all look amazing, Crysis IMO looks better than KZ2, but KZ3 has a lot going on all at once, it does not seem to have a problem with mass physics effects at all, there is still smoke and mirrors going on but so what, the effects make up for any poor textures, as a example in both KZ2 and KZ3 the gun looks amazing but often looks like a diamond in the rough because nothing else looks as good as the gun e.g. the scenery, but again the effects e.g. particle effects make up for this.

One thing I will say though is that the water effect in KZ3 looks great but the water itself does not look right, the wave effect looks right but the water does not look like any water I have ever seen, it's not the best water effect ever as some suggest, maybe this is an area where the GPU does have an effect, when I think water I think Bioshock or Crysis 1.

Aren't you the tool that made that PS3 vs XBox 360 comparison that was in several parts not too long ago? If so--SHUT THE FUK UP! You can take your bias and stick it up your ass dude I really dont care about your technical fud! I'll take IBM's word for it rather than one of you random nobody's with your secret fanboy agenda. Jeez who the fuk do you trust now a day's anyway?

RAGE on the 360 looks better than any top end PS3 exclusive atm--I know you may be having some trouble getting your fat technical head around that but it's true, so man up and deal with it!

Lol at the people that think Killzone is the best graphics ever. Looks like Killzone 3 is using the same blur effects to disguise the low res textures. Not to mention the over use of the color gray. I don't know what planet you guys are living on but Gears of Wars 3 and Rage look better than Killzone 3.

I see most of you guys are still stuck on stupid.

I agree with you on some points, yes Rage looks amazing but as much as I really rate the 360 I am not sure it could handle all the physics effects going on in KZ3, I will give credit where it is due, the 360 as we have seen with Rage, Gears of War 3 etc does have GPU capabilities on par or better than the PS3, we know this because we have seen it many times, RDR being a good example, but if the DEVS take the time to master the complex setup of the PS3 then clearly some great effects can be achieved which make up for the odd poor texture, KZ3 is very busy, I was not that impressed with KZ2, I will play KZ3 and see if it has the same effect when actually playing but from what I have seen it looks very good.

BTW a console that can number crunch like that should not be having all the framerate issues it does with certain games. Either way the PS3 and the 360 are both fantastic consoles.

All of those games aren't even out yet. So what's the point?

Rage looks awesome, any one who says different is crazy. Better than KZ3 and Crysis IDK it's to early to tell.

RAGE in it's current for actually looks much more smoother and cleaner than KZ3, RAGE uses Mega-textures something which KZ3 does not have.

Using mega textures it keeps the texture consistent on everything in the environment including the character and his guns and they also super hi-res. KZ3's textures aren't always consistent and it's very noticeable from the demo's we've seen.

I'm not hating on any of them as I'm going to be buying all three :)

Really pathetic that killzone is getting mentioned so much. A franchisee that deserves to be on the same page as resistance, medal of honor, fear........ Halo is also hugely overhyped although thats only thanks to miscrosoft marketing.

Crysis, Rage obviously look better. Still nobody cares about that since both of those games are bringing something new in the gameplay department while KZ remains generic unoriginal dudebro garbage overhyped trough the edge of the galaxy by desperate people who dont play games.

totally unimpressed by rage and crysis 2. I might add, that I expected killzone 3 to look a bit better too.

I want Doom 4.

Rage to me is underwhelming so far!! This is only hyped up by 360 fanboys!! I really want to see the visual superiority of this game but I don't!!!!
Faces look ok.. Characters move kinda realistic In a retarded way & is Dumb as SH!t half to time!!!

So for now Crysis & Kllzone 3 on my list!! Rage I need to see more...

Rage & Medal of honor people love I just don't see why!!!

Crysis is still the generic nano suit in NY with strength, Cloaking, Armer Mode & Speed modes & is putting alot into story telling, graphcs & 3D just like every other FPS??? What?? People are so quick to say generic when they don't know what to say!! even though they will end up buying it!!!

Really...? KZ3 better than Crysis 2...really.

sorry, I don't see it, actually never got KZ2 either, still haven't finished it.
it's just me...I don't know, i just don't find the beauty others do, btw Hate Halo games 2, besides the 1st one, now Crysis was beautiful, stupid story and Cysis 2 seems to deliver both.

I think PS3 fanboys felt so left out they tag KillZone as best looking, I personally can't see it, all i see is nice lighting...sorry.

lets wait till all 3 are out...

oh wait, they are all released at different times! =O

honestly, I believe its IMPOSSIBLE to tell atm, and if anything, if we wish to be realistic, we have to just assume all 3 of the games are en par, having their graphical advantages and disadvantages

i can't see any argument that could favour one game over another, unless you consider "level of completion" in which case crysis 2 wins because its being released the earliest *facepalm*

wtv...people looove them flame baits! =P

oh and lol @ everyone's NEED to dethrone KZ2 =P i can see people DYING to finally have KZ2 not be the best looking console game ever, and you can tell they are desperate now if they are comparing unreleased games with eachother.

shame on you, go play KZ2 on an HD screen for the first time and try not to sh!t yourself

Don't hate,, we all know the truth

Crysis 2 has terrible screen tearing, rage is nothing more then a boarderlands/fallout mashup...yawn

Am I the only one to notice that all of these 3 great games are only available on one console ...ps3?

If u are an fps fan,get all of them (of course if u can afford them)

I honestly hadn't heard of Rage before. Now I wish I still hadn't.

Killzone again pls 🥺

Gratz Guerilla, amazing Studio and engine, love Decima!

I was never a huge fan of Killzone, but thoroughly enjoy Horizon. Guerrilla are superb developer and easily up there with the best of the best.

Need a killzone 2 remake from the ground up.

One of the most creative studios out. I hope they keep it up.

Great studio, loved the Killzone series, I wish they would do a remake of the first three games. Horizon is a real step up and truly put Guerrilla Games on the map.

Too bad I never got a chance to play Shellshock: Nam’67 would have loved to try that game out back in the days to see what were their beginnings.

Bring back killzone (maybe in 3rd person perspective)

It would fantastic to see what they could do in Killzone after the lessons learned through Horizon.

Or heck, give us even a short linear FPS from the people who designed Cauldron THETA in the Burning Shores expansion. Even just flying into it (after gliding around and finding its opening amongst the lava and Sunwings perched around it, with other bigger machines just along the path toward it) was an incredible experience.

Great work until now. Keep on this path

Hope they get the opportunity to create a new IP this gen as well.

Forbidden West is awesome, It’s pretty damn big compared to Zero Dawn and it takes a little while to get your skills up and get the equipment you need to fully explore the game (not going to spoil it) but once you do those things and start fighting the big ass machines it really is amazing. Some cool side quests to where you hold the fate of peoples lives by your choice and the cauldrons look amazing. Lots of skills , combos, special moves and add ons for your weapons so you can approach fights many ways. Looking forward to the name game but I wonder how/if Silas will be a part of it or not ? Sad he’s gone.

Killzone games weren’t the best shooters but damn did they look purty!!!!

Killzone 2 remade with the multiplayer

20 years of mid-tier games and they are trending down.

I'm hyped for whenever Horizon 3 releases but Killzone 1 needs a remake BAD and 2 & 3 need remasters. Criminal those games are stuck on PS3.

Hold up

Horizon: Zero Dawn sold 24.3 million
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild sold 29.81 million

With the way journalists have been consistently saying BotW overshadowed Horizon you’d think the gap between an entry in a new IP and a longrunning one would be bigger Even if you want to include however much the Wii U version of BotW did, both series still did impressive numbers

I never want to hear that Horizon is an overlooked franchise ever again

i really loved the atmosphere and idea of killzone. i hope they revisit it at some point because it always had so much potential.

Bring Back Killzone please or at least a KZ2 remake with MP.