getting playstation move through gamestop so i can pick it up in person the day of instead of waiting for a shipment.

lol the price isn't even out!

this is true, it wont keep up. Move is for core and everyone kinect is just garbage,lol sorry but its true and you all know it.

You knoew this was going to happen. Kentic is going to sell huge. Wether its good or not it will still sell

I think Microsoft was smart to air it on TV so that it reaches all the other people who normally don't play games. People are going to be interested when they see somebody controlling their TV with their hands and voice. Not everybody plays games like us, or even care about gaming period. The games might not look good to us, but the non gamers might be very interested in this.

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Who the heck would pre order something without knowing the price. When that price gets announced I bet we see alotta cancelations.

This piece of crap?! No software, over-price crap?! It's crap!!

Fcuk MS!! Money hungry devils!!
$50 a year Online charging, no Blu-Ray having, arcade edition no HDD, no 1st Party Dev's, maxed out old-azz console, RRoD, HD-DVD supporting, only have Gears & Halo game piece of horse-s*** X- box!!!!!!!

I just pre-ordered my Kinect!! LOL!!!

What makes you think so ?

I guess if you were buying a new 360 it might appeal to you... I guess... sure as hell wouldnt to me.

Ooo, Kinect outselling Move on Amazon??
Then like a nice a nice, brainwashed little lemming, I better go against common sense and the evidence of my own eyes and buy me a Kinect instead of a Move then.

.....Cue thousands of dissapointed buyers. Countdown ... 6 Months...

LMFAO @ dumbasses fighting over Move and Kinect. Both suck, and they will never be successful as the Wii. I hope they both fail to teach both Sony and Microsoft a lesson. I'm not buying into this motion control crap.

but its funny to me that kinetic is selling so well right now. I did not expect it to start off very good at all.

move seems to be doing better than I thought too. I guess people like motion controls more than I do.

Simply because they showed live demos and not pre recorded demos like cheap ass microsoft so they cud make their product look better than it was

when you got 3ds on the way?

tothe casuals pre ordering kinect. have fun standing up and only being able to play 2 player games, have fun spending 150 dollars, and since you preorder kinect the price wont start out low like it would of if you guys just ignored it.

IM sorry but people hypeing kinect really arent doing gameing a favor at this point.

I haven't been on here in months but i really had no choice but to log in and comment

Very satisyfying seeing all this hate towards Kinect and it reminds me exactly of the type of thing the Halo franchise recieves.Nothing says worry quite like hatred towards a product in the way we see here

Keep it up guys

Don't worry. The only reason it's selling better on Amazon is fanboys. They're pre-ordering them right now. :) They showed Kinect and Move on Fox the other day and the host just stopped
playing Kinect. He wanted Move. It's precise...and fun.

Move will win.

Honestly...what casual gamers are shilling out $150 for this thing before they've even tried it? No one is...except fanboys.

I really hope kinect doesn't sell. Microsoft needs to return to it's core audience. I don't want to kinect music, kinect sports resort etc. to look forward to if this thing takes off.

SEE THIS
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/...
in the UK, Kinect isn't on the list... while move is...make an article of it

This is absurd...NOT that it's outselling Move, but that people are buying it with almost NO idea what it can do or how it's going to be supported. We haven't seen anything REAL from it.

Lol i guess we'll just have to wait and find out

HOLYSHIT REALLY?????CASUALS ARE ALREADY EATING THIS UP

Doesn't really matter which outsells which. End of the day buy the 1 most suited to you. I'm getting move at first becuase it launches before kinect and has a few games that interest me. I'll most likely get Kinect eventually but not at launch because right now there are no games for the thing that i personally wish to play

Just currious how many of you who is claiming huge kinect sales as it is hyper, super duper cool tech living in EU. Let me tell you something EU already enjoyed kinect like experience couple of years back. That inferior tech in your eyes eyetoy sold arround 10 milions cameras if i remember correctly and was huge success in EU before nintendo even drow wii.
And guess what.. We all know that we need Buttons now. So stop pretending that you kbow everything and this is revolution. Nope it´s a eyetoy HD as move is wii HD nothing more nothing less.

PS: what i missing is sony ps2 package with old eyetoy and let´s say 5 best old eyetoy games (kinetic, antigrav etc) for less than kinect alone. That will be huge kick to "revolutin" motion experience ;-)

This honestly makes me lose a little faith in humanity. Microsoft had by far the worst E3. You're looking at about a half dozen good core games and maybe 3 good casual games in the upcoming line-up for 360. It's really not looking good in comparison to the PS3 and Wii which both have significantly more good core AND casual games coming out. Kinect was marketed with a bunch of crap, no hardcore games, and none of its casual games do anything to support the claims that it's a revolution, none of them look like they'll provide any kind of significant lasting fun, none of them look very responsive, none of them are even remotely unique. There's an absolutely abysmal selection of software and applications for Kinect. Nothing that isn't done elsewhere and usually better. The device has been presented with smoke & mirrors, when it is shown for real it's got problems with imprecision and responsiveness, I've already delved into the lacking software, and they're marketing it to be able to do things that it can't yet do (such as work while sitting down... as Kotaku's interviews and reports proclaim, the device currently CAN NOT work while you're sitting down... yet Microsoft keeps saying "it will work" and shows faked videos of people using it while sitting down). It's just sad that Microsoft can present such schlock, such a minimum of quality software, such a faked demonstration of their offerings, and come out with the best sales figures! It honestly saddens me.

i foresee this race turning out like the current console race. MS sprinting for fast cash and lots of money, but Sony pacing themselves and ultimately surpassing MS's efforts.

how many of the preorder units for kinect will be returned cuz of defective technology?

People pre-ordering now, are fanboys. No offense to anyone but pre-orders at this stage, with no reviews and whatnot... casuals don't watch/follow E3... so I don't have another explanation.

Not that I don't think It won't outsell the move mind you, it's now the focus of the 360 platform. The Move whilst personally as a core gamer I believe looks considerably more fun won't look as good as Kinect to the short sighted and ignorant.

It's a shame, I think that Kinect-Nata-S##t will sell more than move. There are a lot of little boys and mums are going to buy this piece of...

Why do we get this misinformation? This is a ranking: You take the number of sales for spot #99 add it to spot #100 and you could have more in sales than your #1.

There are 3 skus for Move @ $49.99, $99.99, and $399.99. The first two are ranked 24 and 19 respectively. The third isn't released, but undoubtedly there are those waiting for that bundle. Add all those up and it could easily be more than Kinect...or not.

You don't know. So why is eveyone acting like this actually means anything?

too many fails from microsoft...
*HDDVD
*RROD
*No wi-fi (until recently)

* Kinect is sure to be over priced...Microsoft have to prove it works as advertised before I make that purchase. As I can no longer "take their word" for it...too many lies and fails mixed with smoke and mirrors. gonna wait till the smoke clears..

Am I the only one that is going to state the obvious? There is a single natal device. There are multiple ways to buy the move. You could buy the 99$ combo pack or just the move. Add those sales together, which are both in the top 15 it would probably me much closer.

On a side note? Why do sales number always validate a purchase? I mean Hitler had pleanty of followers in Germany but I think he was obviously wrong. Think before you speak.

I think both will sell extremely well. As far as people preordering with very little info, or based on E3.....how is it different then preordering a console a year in advance? Are you not still basing it on faith that the tech will deliver? I have my 360 for Gears 3 and Reach among others, while my kids would likely love Kinect. I have faith that both MS and Sony have not announced everything yet and that both techs will evolve into something awesome. Keep in mind when LIVE first launched it was pretty basic stuff, and now look at it.

once kinect ships, and people have it in their hands, they will regret ever purchasing a flawed POS. At least the Move has working titles.

move will outsell in the long run, when people realize kinect isnt working as promised.

If people were smart( which they are not) they would wait to see what happens in the next few months. Sony people are known to wait and see and then buy. 360 people run buy it first and then spend the next few months waiting for Microsoft to make it work the work way it supposed to. Don't fool yourself people.When the Move offically comes out before the Kinect we shall see who has bigger numbers.

So what. It's pre-orders for crappy motion controls to play kiddy games and jump around in your living room like an idiot. In this race, nobody wins.

So much for kinect being a failure

Good for MS and Kinect. Seems to have made a lot of people happy with this news.

Kinects most impressive aspects are stuff it does that are completely non-game related. I dont understand how people who call them selves gamers can justify spending the amount they will for a new way to navigate your dashboard. dont get my wrong, its awesome how you can do it...but is that simply fact worth $100? idk.
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Motion just isnt my thing, I wish it would go away with 3D.

I'm not particularly surprised. I always anticipated people would buy into the Natal hype, even if it didn't deliver (showfloor reaction has been more positive towards Move by some way).

But I don't really care about sales too much. If Move sells enough to get software support, then I'm in. Move looks fantastic. Already pre-ordered mine.

i am a sony fan, look at my history for proof

although saying that, this is expected isn't it? the casuals Gut reaction is "natal is awesome and new, move is just wii HD"

everyone here knows the truth, after the hype has passed for both move and kinect and after the casuals get thougrough use out of kniect and see its faults, the sales balance will swing

I won't be one of the inept buyers wasting away $150 + $60 for kinect sports + $60 Kinectimals... blah!

Thank you M$, you just made the Move purchase seem that much more reasonable.

And how much will you waste on Move for 4 people? Let me guess a lot more than $150.00.

A 12 month XBL Gold subscription for $29.99, I'm good for another 9 months but I just might pick one of those puppies up.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/be...

Anyone that buys motion control for ps3 or xbox360 is a idiot in my book.

I'll stick with my controller thanks.

There is going to be a lot of angry customers when they find out it doesn't work like they thought and I wouldn't be surprised if somehow Kinect's start failing, blinking camera of death.

This is no big deal. The whole purpose of the motion technology is to INCREASE their market share. If you think they give a crap if existing owners buy it, you're wrong. They are wanting to attract the casual crowd and eat into Nintendo's market. The people they are targeting aren't going to preorder on Amazon. They are the moms and pops and grandparents this Cheistmas who walk into Wal-Mary or best buy or Gamestop to buy a wii for their kids. The key point is the number of new systems sold with Kinect and move, not just the Move and kinect themselves.
This fall, you will walk into a store and see Wii, Move, and Kinect side by side. that is where the battle is. The NEW customers, the people whose money they don't already have. Preorder numbers are meaningless. Move actually has an advantage because of it's similarity
to the Wii, and Kinect has an advantage because it is different. I know that's complicated to understand. Current Wii owners would probably lean towards Kinect because the experience is different. People with no console would probably lean towards Wii or Move because they've all got a friend with a Wii. I worked retail for 15 years, and preorder make up a very small number of overall sales. Look at Madden and Halo...maybe 1/2 million preorder but they sell 10 times that number. I guarantee you that Sony will sell more of the PS3 move bundle with a system to new customers than they will sell just Move to existing customers.

but amazon is far from an accurate way to determine sales success.... or do i need to remind everyone on this site about black friday 2009, ps3 sold out 360 3 to 1 on that site.... and who came out ahead in nov. 09.... microsoft sold about a hundred thousand more in the us that month. people on both sides are getting worked up for nothing again

one guy above said that the PS3 closing the gap thing is over. Sorry but weren't all the xbox fans saying, when the slim had released, that it was just a sales spike and that it would end soon? Don't those people think that this could be the same scenario? I think you people are getting too far ahead of yourself I say wait 3 or 4 months and then make your final verdict!

i will end up getting move for time crisis. My younger brother never had a chance to play that game so it will be fun. Kinect to me is just pseye so im not willing to shed some cash for a 360 :/

I'll wait until a reviewer can take it home and try it for real instead of pre-recorded or the controlled environment demos with MS standing over the user's shoulders.

149.99? WTF there is no way i would pay that much for a cam

lol. Are you serious? all hard-core 360 fans are turning into casual gamers?

Look, I think Kinect is mostly lame too, guys, but there is something everyone here is seriously not realizing- Microsoft is going to make a shit ton of cash.

Kinect isn't meant to be "for hardcore gamers", so of course, you are all going to say "Oh, okay, this isn't cool. Since it doesn't appeal to me, NO ONE WILL BUY IT." Microsoft knows that's not true. In fact, Microsoft knows that's downright stupid.

Do you know what my mom said when she saw the Your Shape: Fitness demo? "Oh my god, where can I get one of those? How much is it? When is it coming out?" Casual gamers- even people that aren't gamers, EVEN THE MEDIA- will eat this thing alive much faster than they did the Wii. For $150 ($300 if you don't have an Xbox) you can play this with 8 people. For $370 ($669 if you don't have a PS3) you can play the PS3 Move with 4 people. For $180 ($380 if you don't have a Wii) you can play the Wii with 4 people. In terms of price, casual appeal, and what looks like it could be fun for people to play (get over the idea that fun requires a controller and guns) Kinect is going to sell an enormous, ENORMOUS amount.

Plus, gamers aren't the majority of the world. The largest demographic is casual/non-gamers, so if this thing appeals to them, and is the cheapest option, they will JUMP on it. Plus, news outlets are going to tell everyone in the world about this, just like they did the Wii. Playstation Move, not so much. It's hard to demo something on the news when the majority of the games available are first-person shooters.

I bought a Wii last Christmas for my kids and even though they enjoy time with it, they stuggle with the controler. All the buttons and what they do is just too confusing for a 4 and 3 year old--though my 4 year old son does pretty dam good at WII boxing he still has a hard time with other games.

Kinect does away with the controler and buttons so I'm really curious to see how they do with this cool new add-on gadget for the 360.

Seriously, who cares? Get what you want. It's your money.

See funny thing is, what "you" buy has no effect on me at all, and vice versatile. Funny how that works.

This is no surprise at all. The Kinect will sell sh*tloads, I don't think anyone will argue that...but that doesn't means it's going to be any good.

Sorry thought I heard someone say Gaylo

people can do what they wish with their money...

im not touching either.

this is just one site tbh, i will be buyin move but have yet to pre-order it, it doesn't mean i won't get, or it wont rack up sales, the reason i haven't pre-order it is because i'm waiting for bundles to com out with actual games instead of a demo disk. Alot of people know about kinect since its highly celebrity endorsed. this dont mean move won't sell, and kinect was shown a day before, 2 actually, and it was filmed and shown on mtv, so yet again more media advertising it. THIS MEANS SQUAT

Go to youtube and you can see kinect advertisement on the very top of page kids playing.

All these sales debates are funny. Initial preorders before a product is even priced is not a guage on how well something is going to sell over it's projected lifecycle. Once it is priced, and people start buying, it will be a little easier to estimate sustained sales.

My 15 and 18 year olds live with their mom. Each have a 360 and share a PS3. Neither of them care for the Kinect, but say they will play it if one of their friends bought it. Now their mom (my ex) HATES video games with a passion, but has read about the Kinect online, and wants one. I told her she will have to by the arcade/kinect bundle which will be $249.99-$299.99, and she said ok.

It will be interesting to see how many pay out for the bundles:

Wii-$199.99
360 arcade/Kinect bundle-$299.99
PS3/Move bundle-$399.99

Really if any gamer buys this garbage he is officially beyond retarded. I can see casuals and none gamers getting tricked by pretty commercials into buying the biggest garbage this decade. Its beyond me how people don't see this device as absolutely useless, boring and just plain shit.

media kiss MS ass and pays actors and actresses thats why soccer moms kiss this game

isnt it gorgeous how we treat animals.

That’s Zuckermans famous pig.

Move controller was extremely accurate great times back then

That definitely would have been the absolute worst time for stick drift to happen...

I always wanted a true to life surgery simulator for PSVR1. I always knew those Move controllers were precise AF under the proper conditions.

Move was a very accurate device under good conditions. Dr Marks even wanted to open it up for hobbyists and developers to extract more data to do more things. I even seen him use it for space, astronaut like simulations.

Sony always had the tech. They just needed the software to go with it. PS Move limit was not having an analog stick. Which it seems the PS5 controller made up for that.

I would like to see them use PS VR 2 for surgery or something with that eye tracking built in.

At least it wasn’t used for a mini-sub