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3D + Games = Deteriorated Graphics

After hands on with both games, Mucu from GamesOnSmash.com explains why the graphics of Killzone 3 and MotorStorm: Apocalypse take a hit when displayed in 3D/ Are we willing to sacrifice crisp graphics for supposed immersion?

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Geralt5820d ago

3D + Games + PC = No Deteriorated Graphics

ElementX5820d ago (Edited 5820d ago )

Why do PC gamers always have to bring them up? This video isn't tagged "PC"

FURY__UNLEASHED5820d ago

This N4G, following the rules is apparently optional. GreenRing(s)OfLife trolls nonstop every day, all day but has yet to be banned.

On topic: This is the only website I've seen say the 3D lowers the detail. Other sites said there was no downgrade.

Sharingan_no_Kakashi5820d ago

Never hear them talking about Innovative exclusives. Its always the same ol, "6755p 87x AA 500fps 800terabyte HDD 500gigs RAM" kinda stuff.

AC130-Gunship5820d ago

Industry : "Thank you James Cameron for showing the way. Your Avatar was a revelation in economics".

Gamers : Don't be fooled

PAPERCHASER03965820d ago (Edited 5820d ago )

All electronics just hitting the market or tech will always be more expensive at launch as competition arises prices drop so what's ur point all because you can't afford it that's your personal problem so don't put the tech down...... Look at DVD players, cell phones, and others when they first came out

Chris_TC5820d ago

This has to do with how Sony markets their 3D mode as a huge innovation that hasn't been done before and how Sony gamers respond to it.

Even in articles you read stuff like "The first real 3D game blablabla" when Nvidia has brought 3D to mainstream gamers a long time ago.

Mucudadada5820d ago

I wouldn't call the graphics a downgrade, it's just altered to the point where it does not look as good. Again, it's browner and harder to see enemies in the distance. That's just my honest opinion after playing 2 3D games.

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fr0sty5820d ago

yeah, just horrible frame rates unless you plop down enough money on a video card, CPU, and RAM to buy you 3 PS3's.

Chris_TC5820d ago

Haha, more ignorance. You typing this on your PS3 btw?

hay5820d ago

Aren't gamesonsmash the biased and bs type of people against PS3?

sikbeta5820d ago (Edited 5820d ago )

Sorry but none of Those 2 Games are Finished Yet, come back again when you test The Final Product please...

tontontam05820d ago

Agree

but
Console Exclusive Games + PC = Can't play

dj555555555820d ago

What is with the PC brigade? Who would have thought a machine that you can spend an infinite amount of money on could do things better then a £250 console. Wow I'm glad you guys are here constantly telling us.

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prodg525820d ago

OMG!! NO WAY! Really? Who didn't know this? I for one don't mind taking a graphical hit in order to play in 3d. Game play comes before graphics and PS3 gives us both choices.

Chris_TC5820d ago

The person who said:
<<This is the only website I've seen say the 3D lowers the detail. Other sites said there was no downgrade.>>

And the 5 people who agreed with him.

synce5820d ago

Not just as a gamer, but as a human being, I wish this 3D fad would end already. Sadly I think it's going to take another year or two for the kids to get over it. In the meantime I say just tough it out

The_Firestarter5820d ago

When I was watching the live stream for Sony's E3 conference, I thought the KZ3 footage looked a bit fuzzy, maybe the game does take a hit when 3D is enabled. Maybe, maybe not. I don't know, but what do I care when I'm gonna be playing it in 2D anyway. It's gonna be a great experience either way so whatever.

I'm just glad Sony is really serious about implementing 3D in their big franchises.

DarK-SilV5820d ago

if you are wearing a 3D glasses when it is shown in 3D it will not look fuzzy,

even a movie will look fuzzy in 3D with out the glasses

STONEY45819d ago

Nah, most sites the caught the footage had direct feed, so it wasn't from the 3D effect, it's from the decreased resolution, which was confirmed by the first magazine to preview Killzone 3 in 3D.

oguzsasi5820d ago (Edited 5820d ago )

As long as 300 dollar console games have great graphics, people dont care about greater graphics to spend 1000!

Thats the point that pc gamers dont understand! Who wants the best of the best graphics? I dont... Console games are okay with me!

Nihilism5820d ago

Your right, everyone driving sports cars should burn them, because a second hand hatch back is fine for some, so everyone else should just settle for less...

I really don't get the logic of that...

You don't even need a 3d monitor to game in 3d on PC, you simply get 30 frames per eye for a game that would otherwise have run at 60...but on consoles you need the 3d TV so that it can duplicate frames so that all those 30frame games don't get halved to 15 per eye..aka sloooooow.

I remember all PS3 owners claiming there was no deterioration and heralding it as another victory, now that it is apparent there is visual loss you claim "visuals don't matter" you fickle fools need to pick a stance

@ExgamerLegends

Yeah because PS3 owners never talk about hardware or visuals...nope not ever

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piroh545d ago

There's too many games to choose from

No Metal geat solid 1,2,3,4?
No Resident evil?
No Silent hill?
No Midnight club 3?
No NfS Underground 2?
No Final Fantasy?
No Burnout 3?
No Dragon quest 8?
No Days gone?
No Ace combat?
No Tekken/Soul calibur?......
just from the top of my head

PS1 era was full of great RPGs, PS2 was racing generation i would pick top 200 and even that would be just a fraction.

FinalFantasyFanatic544d ago

30 is way too low over the entire history of Playstation, I just wouldn't be able to narrow it down that much, I would pick 100 at least.

Storm23544d ago

Yeah...really odd list. I get that it is personal preference and I love most of the games listed, but my list would definitely be different. I agree though, it would be incredibly difficult to come up with just 30.

lockedongamer1544d ago (Edited 544d ago )

I only picked first-party titles. Otherwise, I agree!

EDIT: Except for Days Gone, I don't get the love for it but you do you!

Chocoburger535d ago

I didn't like Days Gone either, it doesn't deserve to be on any best of list.

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20 Years of Guerrilla: The Story of a PlayStation Studio

The Amsterdam-based studio reflects on its humble beginnings, beloved franchises, and growth through the years.

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SullysCigar1110d ago

Up there with the top tier in the industry. Love Guerrilla Games - Horizon Burning Shores is simply STUNNING.

1Victor1110d ago

Can’t wait for their next franchise

SullysCigar1110d ago

Same. They nailed it with Horizon. The trouble is I also want a new Killzone! Can't I just have it all?!

jznrpg1110d ago

I’m with you I want Horizon 3 , Killzone and new IPs

badz1491110d ago

I have yet to play Burning Shores as I just started Forbidden West (bought at launch, just unwrapped last weekend LOL) and playing on PS5.

man...I still can't believe the graphics especially now I'm playing it on my LG OLED. that graphics and with stable performance backing it up, GG really is the master of their craft!

Vengeance11381110d ago

32.7M sales in the Horizon franchise! With 8.4M coming from Forbidden West alone! Truly a hugely successful game and franchise as a whole. Looking forward to Horizon III

Shane Kim1110d ago

That's kind of a huge drop though. It's only been two games.

VersusDMC1110d ago

One year after realease HZD sold 7.6 million.

https://www.noobfeed.com/ne...

So not a drop off.

Unless you're saying a HFW should have sold as much now as HZD sold in 5 years?

Vengeance11381110d ago

It's been 3 games, this includes Call of the Mountain. Also no, its a great improvement over HZD.

solideagle1110d ago

lol you are comparing:

HZD: 28 February 2017 - May 2023 (6 years+)

HFW: 18 February 2022 - May 2023 (1 year+)

We will see if it surpass original number.

Phoenix761110d ago

@shane, 2 full main games, 2 DLC add ons, 1 VR spin off game, oh and a an official LEGO set.
Not too bad for an ip that's only been on market for 6 years

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REDGUM1110d ago

Wow, very impressive. I didn't know the numbers were so high for Forbidden West. Still playing through it myself

thesoftware7301110d ago (Edited 1110d ago )

Yooo, when I first saw that Killzone 1 footage at E3, my friends my brothers and I were like, Holy shit! When it came out, it didn't look exactly like it, but we sunk so many hours into 1 & 2.

I even liked Killzone: SF, it was a spectacle to look at, and even today it looks good. I hope they make a new one. Can you imagine how that will look, and they can get some modern FPS pointers from Bungie.

blacktiger1110d ago

thank you fps lover, I'm with you

talocaca1110d ago

Such a wonderful studio. They deserve all their success.

The Decima Engine is absolute 🔥 I'm just mad they have abandoned Killzone.

OzzY-waZZy1110d ago (Edited 1110d ago )

Kinda wish they move on from Horizon tbh.

lukasmain1110d ago

They are probably working on mutiple projects. One of them is Horizon 3, but another is a multiplaer game and probably somehting else.

Imalwaysright1110d ago

There were rumours that they were working on a Socom reboot.

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Revisiting PS3 classic Motorstorm - The driving celebration that should never have ended

Digital Foundry : Evolution Studios' Motorstorm is one of the first, finest and most fondly remembered of launch titles for PlayStation 3. It's a release designed to answer the question posed by each new console generation: what makes a game 'next-gen'? With its robust physics engine and massive tracks, Motorstorm serves up a bold affirmative answer to this question, delivering an experience that could never have existed on prior console hardware. At the same time, the path to release was fraught with challenges that almost serve as a microcosm of the PlayStation 3 release situation itself. It was a success, however, with a trilogy of PS3 releases, plus PSP, Vita and even PS2 off-shoots.

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After Driveclub and Onrush, the dev team will now contribute to and assist with the development of the upcoming NFS.

darthv721464d ago

I would give anything to have a full compilation of the series remastered to play on PS5 with full DS support. Feeling the deformation of the tracks as you race in pacific rift or the snow laden tracks in arctic edge... that would be sweet.

MastaMold1464d ago (Edited 1464d ago )

Yes MotorStorm World Tour for PS5 damn it Sony make it. The Desert, Pacific Islands, The Arctic and City races.

Army_of_Darkness1464d ago

Motorstorm Pacific rift was awesome! I think MotorStorm: Apocalypse was what killed the franchise due to its change of direction...

darthv721464d ago

Pacific rift is the best (IMO) but apocalypse wasnt what killed it. At least it was still somewhat of a MS game. The RC one is really a departure from the norm. None of which were bad as they were all fun in their own ways.

Army_of_Darkness1464d ago

Lol! I completely forgot about the RC version.

Knushwood Butt1464d ago (Edited 1464d ago )

RC was a blast to play on Vita.

Apocalypse had unfortunate timing due to the 3/11 earthquake in Japan. I never got around to playing that one.

Evolution had some harsh experiences. I had Driveclub from launch and the server issues weren't that bad and certainly didn't prevent you from enjoying the game.

ABizzel11464d ago

Agree Apocalypse didn't kill it, it's just racing games in general just became less popular nearing the end of the PS360 generation as it was flooded with medicore racers and the extremely niche but enjoyable ones like Motorstorm, Blur, Spilt Second, and Forza Horizon (still going strong, but actual sales have been decent fro a racer, and often expanded by console bundles and now GamePass)

But since the PS4/XBO generation had a lack of arcade racers, it's a prime time for games like this to come back.

I've said for the longest, the additional income of PS+ Premium should be used for, Remastering, Remaking, or recreating sequels / spinoffs of classic PS franchises to launch into the service. Many PS3 games fit this mold of looking good enough that a quick remaster to 4K@60 with better texture maps would give them near PS4 quality.

Remasters: A game like Motorstorm look good enough where it can simply be remastered in 4K @ 60fps, and have better textures for mud, mountains/rock structures, and vehicles and it would hold up WELL.

Remakes: Games like Legend of Dragoon, Warhawk (could be a simple remaster also), and so many others could get remakes like FF7.

Recreates: Shorter sequels/prequels/spin-offs to other classic PS IPs like how Infamous First Light / Blood Festival (BF was a highly underrated vampire game) and Uncharted Lost Legacy. Give spin-offs to things like Heavenly Sword, The Order 1886 (1786 or 1986), Puppeteer, Tokyo Jungle, and more.

ABizzel11464d ago (Edited 1464d ago )

This is also why Sone NEEDS to get PS3 emulation up and running. It gets rid of all the PS3 server farms and replaces it with software that can work on EVERY future PS console with updated coding.

At bare minimum emulation could double the resolution and framerates of all PS3 games making many of them 1440p@60fps without any real work, and a few 4k@60fps.

As for full-on remakes again updating to 4K@60fps with completely revamped textures, and an option for 1440p@60fps with global illumination can make these games shine with a new lease on life.

Also I'm still waiting on my DriveClub 1440p@60fps update 😭

ChiefofLoliPolice1463d ago

Apocalypse was actually pretty good i don't think that's what killed the series. PR was the best though.

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Kurt Russell1464d ago

I was late to PS3 and Pacific Rift was the first game I picked up on it... huge miss to not have one on PS4, hope it gets some love on PS5 (as well as Ridge Racer and Wipeout).

akurtz1464d ago

Only driving game i enjoyed.

darkrider1464d ago

Really cool franchise. It's shame it ended

RosweeSon1464d ago

Never really got into it myself I remember getting it with ps3 and being a bit underwhelmed I preferred the RC version they did for vita 🙌🏻🤣

EvertonFC1464d ago

Going from ps2 to ps3 was not underwhelming when I first played motorstorm, it was like nothing we'd ever seen before ?

RosweeSon1464d ago (Edited 1464d ago )

Each to their own didn’t like it myself. 🤷🏻‍♂️✌🏻 ;I didn’t say going from ps2/3 was underwhelming just the launch game motorstorm, bit different but hey ho.

PS3 was a slow burner for me it’s my least favourite Sony console, maybe as I had my 360 as my main at that point but yeah wasn’t impressed with first couple of years to be honest but that’s just me. Once uncharted MGS4 GT5 Last of us GTA4/5 dropped sure but launch games weren’t all that imo. Resistance was alright wasn’t as big a change as ps4 or even now ps5 for me. PS3 took out rumble and basically went HD it’s wasn’t exactly a revolutionary start. 🤷🏻‍♂️✌🏻 ;

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