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Did Valve have a falling out with Microsoft?

"The PS3 is a total disaster on so many levels, I think it's really clear that Sony lost track of what customers and what developers wanted," said Newell. "I'd say, even at this late date, they should just cancel it and do a 'do over.' Just say, 'This was a horrible disaster and we're sorry and we're going to stop selling this and stop trying to convince people to develop for it.'"

This is certainly a turn of events for Valve as Newell is the guy that can be quoted as saying

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005812d ago

They're third party they can do what ever they want.

Akagi5812d ago

Exactly. This is just flamebait. The URL of the site is very apt.

bioshock12215812d ago (Edited 5812d ago )

Exactly it's nothing but flamebait Valve has been saying for a while now that they will release a PS3 game eventually and that has finally happened.

Anyways I don't get why Portal 2 coming to the PS3 was such a big surprise considering that Portal 1 was also on the PS3.

Christopher5812d ago

I think the ability for Valve to get their personal Steam tools onto the PS3 was just something they couldn't pass up.

WhittO5812d ago

Its prob because Sony give more freedom to developers through PSN, like the steam features etc, I doubt MS would allow all of that on Xbox Live (ofcourse, unless people were willing to pay extra$$)

Noami5812d ago

PPl have forgotten than the ps3 ver of the orange box wasnt ported by valve it was ported by
EA thats why valve did not support ps3 ver of orange box and did not have updates and addons.

Valve announcing they bringing it instead of some one else is very important.

R2D25812d ago

Maybe the finally hired and extra team to work on the PlAYSTATION. Apple have also been getting some love from the Gabemister.

TheDeadMetalhead5812d ago (Edited 5812d ago )

Valve never really liked the 360. They only ported their games over because it was easy. My guess is they were sick of Microsoft interfering with their ability to update their games (Remember the TF2 debacle?), and wanted more freedom. i guess Sony and PSN give them that.

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Will-UK5812d ago (Edited 5812d ago )

when he came on i thought he would pretend he never made those comments but credit to him he admitted he was wrong

WildArmed5812d ago

Yup, he was sweating like mad.
And he admitted that he was very vocal with his opinions.
And he even thanked sony for taking Valve up on their offer in front of hundreds of THOUSANDS of people.
I think he can be forgiven.

I dunno how else you would apologize.
Heck, he even said the definitely console version of Portal 2 is on the ps3.
I dont think i can ask anything else from him.

sixaxis5812d ago (Edited 5812d ago )

but honestly guys, how many of you thought that gabe newell will walk personally on stage during sonys event and announce such a thing. steam plus portal2. sony won E3 2010. hands down

beardpapa5812d ago

i say they probably made amends considering gabe's speech was rather humorous with the kevin butler vp of sharpening things line

vhero5812d ago

Now come the conspiracy theorys lol. Love it really MS is losing all 3rd party semi exclusive devs.

siyrobbo5812d ago

its because of their closed system, same thing happened with epic and unreal tournament 3. The definitive (console) version of that game was on PS3

This is a sign of the future, i imagine all future valve titles to be like portal 2

Redgehammer5812d ago

why would you love it? That is exactly the mentality that I do not comprehend.

jakethemuss5812d ago (Edited 5812d ago )

Humans have the mentality to support things they own or support their opinion. It can be irrational, but it is no more irrational than a sports person supporting their favourite sports team.

Edit: at least with console rivalry we don't have fights, murders, and riots like sporting rivalry.

mcslick1015812d ago

Valve will never go exclusive. They will stay true to their PC Fanbase.

Mista T5812d ago (Edited 5812d ago )

man, I don't know what to buy Portal 2 for!
my ps3 or my PC and Mac.

and expect left 4 dead to come to ps3

Hallmark Moment5812d ago

He had a falling out with Sony and fans. Not surprised by this at all.

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Pandamobile5812d ago

Valve have never really been on great terms with Microsoft. They stronly disagree with MS's DLC pricing and they weren't too fond of Vista either.

mcgrawgamer5812d ago

this is why there is 0 team fortress 2 dlc to date on the 360 xbl as a seller in it's own right is losing it's recognition day after day

Redgehammer5812d ago (Edited 5812d ago )

I believe there is no DLC for TF2 on the 360 because the updates for the PC version are not complete.. Once the Engineer is done if 3-5 months later there is no talk of or actual DLC heading then I will be on the same side of the fence you are. I also disagree about the recognition thing since the 360 outsold the PS3 every month thus far in 2010 according to NPD. However, I do believe that the PS3 brand has gained recognition, but not at the expense of MS or Nintendo.

Pandamobile5812d ago

I doubt Valve will actually release the TF2 DLC on the consoles. There's like 5 gigs worth of content and TF2 on the consoles doesn't have a fraction of the player base as the PC version. Last time I checked there were only about a hundred people playing the 360 version of TF2, and I'm sure there's far less on the PS3 version.

Omega45812d ago

No $ony paid, why else you think Valve done random cancels of events and sudden delays. Sony $$$ speaks.

KingME5812d ago

Omega, I must admit, that was my first thought also. Money can make anyone do an about face.

I still don't get why the title would imply that MS and Valve would have had to have a falling out for this to happen.

The title is just to attract people to their website. I must admit, they got me.

Redgehammer5812d ago

that can't be true according to a proponderance of posts on N4G, MS is the only company that throws money around to get what it wants.. maybe the PS3 faithful won't get a sucky port of a Valve game this time, and they too can enjoy the greatness which is Valve. After valve went to Mac is it really a surprise that they are going to finally embrace the PS3. As far as I am concerned anything valve can do to stay independent is a great thing.

andthensum5812d ago (Edited 5812d ago )

Nothing to see here. PS3 and Nintendo Fans, Please move on and enjoy your day. Do not mind the little 360 fanboy with his numerous accounts. :)

PS3 version according to GABE is the best version to get. No confusion necessary.

Anorexorcist5812d ago (Edited 5812d ago )

but don't be acting now all of a sudden that it's down and low, Omega. Microsoft does it a hell of a lot more than Sony, and me saying that is giving you the benefit of the doubt that Sony even did pay Valve. No one has proof they did. Valve may have just realized the PS3 is a more viable console than they initially thought.

@ Right...but now it's okay to make baseless comments and talk them off as fact? That's the name of the game here at N4G.

testerg355812d ago

Right.. but now its ok to pay.

ryuzu5812d ago

Welcome to MS marketing, done by Sony...

r.

Sheikh Yerbouti5812d ago

Now Sony's getting accusations of buying up games? LOL. That's priceless!

testerg355812d ago

andthensum, so did you believe Gabe when he said the PS3 was crap, but yet you believe him now?

andthensum5812d ago

PS3 has delivered since it was first introduced and is shutting the mouths of haters everywhere, including yourself.

The PS3 is a beast, and Gabe can't help but 4acknowledge that he was a delusional XBox fanboy and is now seeing the light. On to the next one.

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jaredhart5812d ago

wherever they think they can make money.

PS3 is much more viable now and is primed to pass the xbox 360 soon.

Sheikh Yerbouti5812d ago (Edited 5812d ago )

Not just cookies and brownies, Gabe gets happy over open computing systems, or whatever. He was all golly gee about the topic in a interview a few weeks ago. I always said that Sony and Microsoft switched places (with some exceptions) this year. LIVE is a closed system, while PSN is quite open. Steam is naturally exclusive to the PS3 and Valve strategically support open computer systems.

I think that says it all.

tweakedhuman5812d ago

valve is slowly becoming a console developer... :(

RIP half life, counter strike portal and l4d...

Mista T5812d ago

no there not, there're providing great games to a broader audience. if they were they would've given games like TF2 an update a long time ago on consoles.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio15d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing14d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9215d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit15d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing14d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9214d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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(For Southeast Asia) New Price Changes for PS5, PS5 Pro, and PlayStation Portal remote player

For Southeast Asia, new price changes.

Prices effective starting May 1st, 2026.

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BeHunted17d ago

Looks like PlayStation took a hit with Marathon and is now quietly adjusting prices worldwide to recover the losses

andy8517d ago

Lets be honest raising prices doesn't do that when no one's buying it. I imagine the profit it greater selling 10 times more at a lower price

Pergele16d ago

Whatever you say buddy, let's all wear the tinfoil hats.

IceKoldKilla16d ago (Edited 16d ago )

LMFAO Your comment alone says a lot more about you than anything else. When has one game not selling 10 million copies made a company raise the prices of their console? Then Xbox would be costing $5000 by now lol. You remind of the crazy drug addicts on the street rambling on about conspiracies. xD You sure you don't need a hug, buddy?

ChunkyMonk16d ago

One game that Sony payed $200 million for. lol
Also, you sure were quick to get triggered. Maybe your the one who needs a hug?

Eonjay16d ago

If nothing else, we should be united against the real issue here. AI and unnecessary tariffs that are effecting all gamers.

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Athlon10117d ago (Edited 17d ago )

The price increases are due to the RAM demand associated with AI and the US-Iran war. You can look to any business news website and local news to see that. Heck, even the 2026 Asus Zenbook Duo I've been eyeing has faced delays and has had a price increase of $400; that laptop has two specs. Asus is doing a staggered release with per-orders for the lower spec now and shipping in May and pre-orders for the higher spec that I'm eyeing starting in June. Basically, all computer manufactures are affected. It'll most likely start affecting smart phones too if it hasn't already. I can't remember the last time any major console maker (Nintendo, Sony, Sega, etc) increased the price of their console mid cycle outside of Microsoft just to make more profit.

S2Killinit16d ago

Its not the war. Its the RAM issue.

jznrpg16d ago

War is causing gas prices to rise. Transport of everything requires gas so the prices of those items go up as well. So it does have an impact

Athlon10116d ago (Edited 16d ago )

The blockage of the Straight of Hormuz due to the US-Iran war has affected raw components used in semi-conductor manufacturing such as bromine, aluminum, and helium. Iran had attacked the liquified natural gas (LNG) plant in Qatar which is a large producer (1/3 globally) of helium which is used in semiconductor etching. So it's the both the war and the RAM crises.

badz14917d ago

Oh no...should I get the Pro now before the price increase?

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay16d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn217d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn216d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown17d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay16d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay16d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac16d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger17d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300017d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde17d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde16d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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