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MS @ E3: Haven’t We Seen This All Before?

Play takes a look at Microsoft's E3 conference and ponders why it all felt a bit familiar

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Brewski0075822d ago

"New Crytek game cinematic – As seen in… nothing, but then the trailer showed nothing either, so basically it was a big bag of nothing."
I disagree with this, I thought that trailer looked sweet and showed a bit.
Apart from that I completely agree. It was lacking the "wow" factor and there was very little shock and awe, except at the end when free xbox's were given out and we were told the new version was shipping that day. Suddenly the audience came to life then. . . I wonder why lol.

commodore645822d ago (Edited 5822d ago )

"...And if you’re wondering if we’ll be tearing the Sony conference to shreds in a similar fashion to this then the answer is… No, of course not. We’re PlayStation fanboys for crying out loud."

Well, that pretty much sums up the double standard of 90% of the comments on N4G, too.
Even if you disagree, it is still true.
;)

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edit @ brewski

dude, you got it backwards.
n4g is not a ps3 site.
It is a gaming site for all gamers, hence the irony and double standard.

My comment was not anything to do with the play-mag site.
No. It was simply an observation of the commentary on n4g.

deep breath, dude.

Brewski0075822d ago (Edited 5822d ago )

Lol i take it you own an xbox then. FYI I own both.
I dont know where your coming from since the sony conferance hasnt started yet so its kinda hard to pass judgement.
And i'm pretty sure if you head over to planet xbox or other sole xbox sites you'll find the complete polar opposite to this article as well as a disembowlment of the playstation conferance later today.
Talk about double standards eh?

GrieverSoul5822d ago

The reason why MS conference failed its because it showed no substance.

Kinect = Pre recorded acting!
Core Games = Nothing new and one vague Crytek trailer that showed... DUM DUM DUM... nothing!

Worst part is that MS was always the winner as soon as their conference went live. Strangely it was when they announced a former PS3 exclusive on their platform that the crowd would go wild. This year, at least in the conference, it was a no show.

cyborg69715822d ago

Blah Blah blah blah blah that's all that comes out of your typing 64. Your just a big of a troll as the rest. Can't wait to see actual games today at e3 from sony and nity.

GIANT-ENEMY-CRAB5822d ago (Edited 5822d ago )

MS correcting mistakes this late in the game will only earn you scrub money compared to the money sony will be making by the time you correct kenict itself... my will xbox covered with crab dust longer than expected

ryuzu5822d ago

The vast majority of 360 owners out there will just buy the multiplats and Halo/GeOW and wonder why there seem to be more and better games on the PS3.

Once they can afford it they'll just buy a PS3 and play its games.

Those people don't know what E3 is, they don't care either.

It's only a relatively small number of people who even care to comment.

So, if MS have a winning product it will sell no matter what anyone here or elsewhere says.

As it happens, MS don't have a winning product in Kinect, and they have very few big name games coming.

I guess my 360 will get turned on for Reach - other than that, it's a quiet year for 360.

r.

captain-obvious5822d ago (Edited 5822d ago )

are you blind ??
look at the logo of course its a PS3 fanboys website

but it IS the truth
MS didn't show anything new
Halo reach fable 3 and Gears3 along side those multiplats are all shown long time a go
Even that new xbox got leaked before the event
and those Natal games were revealed the day before their keynote (even those are rip-offs)
so what's wrong with what they say ??

the only new thing they show which looks cool so far is that crytec game and that’s it

bjornbear5822d ago (Edited 5822d ago )

Crysis 2 game footage was sweet.

trailer was meh...but the gameplay footage I enjoyed =) some stuff looked bad (the falling building) etc...but over all (for a 360 GAME) it looked amazing and fun!

i do see myself buying crysis 2 =3

UltraNova5822d ago (Edited 5822d ago )

'And if you’re wondering if we’ll be tearing the Sony conference to shreds in a similar fashion to this then the answer is… No, of course not.'

If Sony fucks up like MS did I would gladly tear them a sparkling new one!

In my case, preferring a system solely on the superior quality it offers doesn't mean I wont criticize them if and when they deserve it.

Hideo_Kojima5821d ago (Edited 5821d ago )

This years conference showed everything from last years conference...

A call of duty
Halo Reach
MGS Rising
Fable 3
Kinetic (with no hardcore games)

and some new DLC and two just TWO new games.

The one from Crytek and Gears 3

So after a whole year MS has only started msking 2 just 2 new games?
2 announcements? 1 we already knew about for months (gears 3)

Just think about there is no way around this Microsoft's Xbox 360 hardcore gaming is dying and fast even MS think so and they turned it into a Wii that only gets around 2 hardcore games every year.

extermin8or5821d ago

as i was watching the conference for microsoft i was recognising things, and that crytek trailer reminded me abit of an early GOW3 trailer! also the tiger thing was eyepet, the dance game reminded me abit of the eyetoy, the fitness game was wii fit and well as far as im concerned that 'giveaway' at the end was a bribe to the audience who up to that point hadn't seem particularly interested in anything!

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morganfell5822d ago

Uh, what did the trailer show. It wasn't even in engine. It didn't show a bit other than some 300 stolen ideas.

Inside_out5821d ago (Edited 5821d ago )

That site does that alot...you want to attack M$...attack M$...Attacking the games was dumb...comparing video games to past games is dumb...they all look like one another...same with Hollywood movies...Hence, dumb article...

We will see if Sony and Nintendo have as balanced a presentation as M$...

M$ knows who it's demographic is and the one they want...they hit the bulls eye dead center...The hardcore gamer had Gears, Halo and fable 3 plus all the multi-plats that are always better and sell better on 360...This is about the Wii gamers out there...Wii fit sold more than COD...lol...get the picture...Ubisoft is standing strong there...EA also showed, what looked to me as a more complicated version but that's who they are hunting...

Kinectanimals was a cute as can be...sure the hardcore gamers were stabbing themselves with a pencil but anyone with children will tell you...there kids would spend hours playing hide and seek with the 10+ animals available...

The MTV dance game...lol....don't think a dance instructional video game will sell...don't get out much huh...lol...

Star Wars Kinect exclusive...little dudes everywhere will line up for a chance to tackle baddie Darth vader...c'mon...this thing is gonna be a smash hit...Sony probably has a deal as well...It did look great...

Kinect sports and adventures is a copy of Wii sports...no denying that...expect MORE...

ESPN...sorry, it States only, M$ biggest consumer. Europe has many perks as well...

M$ set out to brng in the casuals...Tuesday night will will see the Kinect presentation....

Crytek exclusive is a win for M$...plain and simple...anybody who saw the tech demo must remember how awesome the castle looked...

If Sony can steal an exclusive or 2 that would be a deal breaker ( Gears, Mass effect )...

basicsameh5145822d ago

saying Microsoft copied Sony is just ridicules the only people that say that are trolls....

T9X695822d ago

All 3 companies are copying each other, why? To try to take away fans from other platforms and bring them to theirs. Its a good business strategy, why would people play the Wii when they could enjoy the same technology but far more advanced on the PS3. Where MS has all these media features like ESPN, Lamebook, Twitter, Last.fm, but also has Kinect as well as some of the biggest exclusive titles to date.

extermin8or5821d ago

each other although most of what i saw yesterday had been done before, either by them or other companies (to some extent last generation too)

Senden5822d ago

Yeah I seen this all before.. like 3-4 years ago with nintendo's E3.

Why o why5822d ago

plus all company's copy others

shiftymorgan5821d ago

I watched last year and thought it was good.
This year for me it was pretty much the same but with nothing new.
Both Conferences started off with COD. Then went on exactly like the last years. I was bored of it to be honest which was a damn shame since I was raring to watch it.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio24d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing23d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9224d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit23d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing23d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9223d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay25d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn226d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers26d ago (Edited 26d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn225d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown26d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos26d ago (Edited 26d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay25d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay25d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac25d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger26d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300026d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde26d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood26d ago (Edited 26d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde25d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7527d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_25d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.