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Why Gamers Want To Hate Kinect

OXCGN:

"What isn’t so great are the judgements that seem to have already been cast both for and against Kinect’s success in providing new play experiences.

Having gone hands-on with what was then known as Natal at E3 2009, and attended both the Kinect event and the keynote earlier today, the three of us are quite optimistic.

But you know what? That doesn’t matter in the slightest. What we and most of you reading this think is the absolute least of Microsoft’s worries. And here’s why."

BadCircuit5814d ago

I don't get all the hate but then I haven't been there. The Star Wars lightsabre and force push sounds cool to me!

gaminoz5814d ago

Star Wars always gets my attention :) I can see my youngest son having the time of his life with something like that.

Conloles5814d ago

I want to hate Kinect and I want to hate this pro Xbox lamo site.

gamer20105814d ago

Of course you did, captain obvious, because you are a big fat PS3 fanboy. With the amount of absurdly biased PS3 fanboy blogs that get put on n4g, you have the audacity to complain about a fairly balanced site like OXCGN? Give me a break. You ps3 fanboys are ridiculous.

captain-obvious5814d ago

"Of course you did, captain obvious, because you are a big fat PS3 fanboy"

no because this website has been more than few times
tried to post fanboish (360 fanboys) articles
some of them got approved and some did not

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ryuzu5814d ago (Edited 5814d ago )

The problem is :

"What isn’t so great are the judgements that seem to have already been cast both for and against Kinect’s success in providing NEW PLAY EXPERIENCES."

There aren't any new play experiences. What MS have shown is Eyetoy. Eyetoy was short lived fun 5 years ago - now we want more.

Up to E3 there was a feeling that MS were hiding some megaton gameplay - it looks like they weren't.

That's why E3 for MS has been a bust - even their exclusives haven't lifted their fortunes. Apart from Reach I am struggling to find reasons to turn my 360 on in the next year and that is deplorable.

The most frustrating thing is now Sony have no credible competition - so who is going to keep driving them innovate?

r.

menoyou5814d ago

no one wants to hate it, it just sucks

ico925814d ago (Edited 5814d ago )

these guys need to take their fanboy goggles off people wanna hate Kinect beacuase microsoft mislead everyone its not this "revolutionary" "innovative" new controler for gaming, because...

A: Its useless to hardcore gamers
B: Its not even a new way to play casual games
C: The Eye Toy can do 90-95 percent of everyting Kinect can do and has been doing it for 8-7 years for 100$ less

Kinect hasn't impressed anyone, the software they showed screamed shovelware , some of them were clones of games on the ps3 and wii, like wii sports and eye pet. Kinect is a overpriced grossly overhyped old tech, and the only people that are still impressed by it after that embarassing confrence are blind narrow minded fanboys. Bottom line Microsoft LIED and Kinect sucks deal with it.

gamer20105814d ago

It couldn't have anything to do with the fact that you, menoyou and the rest of the haters on this site are known ps3 fanatics, could it? Oh I'm sure it couldn't.

You guys are transparent. You're not fooling anyone. You hate on everything Xbox-related like it is a religion.

adamhacking5814d ago

how can you say that 90% of the stuff is on eye toy, et me explain for you simpleton, who doesnt do his research, but jumps in at the first chance of bein a nob, (BTW I Hav both a ps3 and xbox):
1) the camera moves to follow you off screen
2) the camera is in 3d (so it can track your movements in detail)
3) because it tracks you in 3D you become part of the game, (eye toy you become a figure in the background and the game is around you, it cant make you into a moving character, kenect puts you in the game, like the raft game demo, the racing demo)
4) voice recognition
5) Facial and full body recognition

6) more interactive features, other than games, pause/play movies, try on clothes from famous brands, and more
7) there is so much more than this but i cba explaining it to some hippy that is on dope!!!!
BTW it is revoloutionary, look on nasa's website they have written a report about the technology!!!
you can play casual games you have to walk on the spot or is this too much of a hard workout for you you fat F***er
tbh you dont have a clue and your just a ps3 fanboy.

PLAYstar5814d ago (Edited 5814d ago )

Because of this...

http://i48.tinypic.com/wh0a...

And this
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Now this
http://www.gametrailers.com...

And that!
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Cheating/Scam is just not the way to get around. Never treat us gamers like fools! B!TCH!

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gaminoz5814d ago (Edited 5814d ago )

From what I'm getting people are more impressed with it now that they are seeing third party stuff for it.

Time will tell if the PS3's Move is anything more impressive.

Hearing there's Goldeneye for Wii suddenly makes that console more exciting, so it's the software and how the interface works that is important I think. (I think I'd rather use the gamecube controller than the Wiimote on Goldeneye...)

Godem5814d ago

I hate it because I want to sit down and chill. Not stand up and look ridiculous while the neighbors laugh at me.

gaminoz5814d ago

lol...you don't have a wii then...

tinybigman5814d ago (Edited 5814d ago )

sitting down (whenever i do play it). dont need to do much to play those games. as for natal i couldnt believe the crap they were showing on stage. i wanted to poke out my eyes from the pain of watching that crap. none of that crap appeals to me.

i don't want to hate it i just do period. same goes for all motion controls.

SOAD5814d ago

This is a tired argument, and a childish one.

"I don't like that people will laugh at me."

I won't even counter that with anything.

embop5814d ago

No1 will make you buy it, even if you do no1 make you play it. and if your worried about your neighbors, maybe invest in some curtains?

ElementX5814d ago (Edited 5814d ago )

I think people had this big idea that Kinect was for hardcore gamers with a few casual titles thrown in for good measure. Truth is, Kinect was never hyped as a hardcore periphral. People sat down hoping to see some hardcore FPS titles and stuff but were let down because it's designed for family fun.

The Wood5814d ago

but 'some' of the fanboys pushed natal like it was going to be able to do hardcore gaming. Many people were skeptical, many were indeed hating. Turns out the most of the skeptics were right. A controller with no tangible input device IS limited. IF it wasnt then MS of all people would be showing us WITHOUT the faked, rail shows....

Belgavion5814d ago (Edited 5814d ago )

Microsoft needed to show us a game that was solely something ONLY Kinect could do and they failed to do so. All we got were Wii software clones. I find it hard not to be disappointed when even Peter Molyneux - a man who went on a year ago about how excited he was by the tech - came out on stage and didn't even mention it.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio16d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing16d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9216d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit16d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing16d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9216d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay18d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn219d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn218d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown19d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay18d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay18d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac18d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger19d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300019d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde19d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde18d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7520d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_17d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.