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Introducing Kinect: An Eyewitness Account

Games.on.net editor Bennett Ring was baffled, confused, and possibly aroused by the newly-christened Kinect's debut. Read his blow-by-blow account of the party that finally lifted the lid on Microsoft's motion-controller-formerly-kno wn-as-Natal.

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dizzleK5802d ago

good piece.

it seems like the media has taken a completely different turn now. ms needs to show some truly amazing stuff because they left a really bad taste in pretty much the entire gaming medias mouth, i think move is looking better and better to them. i don't know if a new 360 model will be enough to repair last night.

i feel genuinely saddened for myself, deep down i honestly wanted this to be cool but it's looking terrible so far. i sense tough times ahead for ms.

Cevapi885802d ago

instead of waiting for E3...they try to overcompensate with a bunch of distractions...if you are going to say that this was an event you HAD TO SEE....well then show the games that WE WANT TO SEE

BubZ-SkullY5802d ago

truth be told, MS were looking to far into the future with this no controller stuff, i liked the concept, like an evolved ps eye. At the end of the day for now, i think we neeed some type of controllers.

There presentation should have persuaded us that we don't need to have controllers to have fun, but instead they showed some pre-recorded footage, which tells me that theres some lag issues, and well like you said the gaming media didn't like it, and if they don't like it, gamers won't be persuaded enough to get it.

El Botto5802d ago

"i feel genuinely saddened for myself, deep down i honestly wanted this to be cool but it's looking terrible so far. i sense tough times ahead for ms."

This drama could have been avoided by you if you didnt place all your money on a console whom everyone knows is standing on its last leg.

wazzim5802d ago

I think even if some wanted MS to fail, nobody wants any company in this industry to just fuck up that bad.
Like really, what the hell were they thinking?

We all know Kinect=Eyetoy and Move=Wii, but atleast Sony is making it look COOL and needed, MS is just shitting on their customers right now.

morganfell5802d ago

It will get worse. Microsoft's own Rare says Kinect has 6 times the lag of Move.

wazzim5802d ago (Edited 5802d ago )

it's about having cool stuff, idc about little lag if it's a cool game but that's the problem, even the software sucks.

morganfell5802d ago

That doesn't inlcude TV lag or internet lag. So yes, it will be more than a little lag.

mad-dog5802d ago

i think there are some great ways to use natal.
Gaming has to few options though.

Microsoft wants to keep it game/ 360 reated so far.
Unfortunate, cause i know some people that have developped some great concepts for this app, outside of the gaming world.

ATLGAMER5802d ago

They need to go back to the 360 of the first three years...hardcore exclusives and stealing exclusives...it worked for them..screw all that DLC and this NAtal crap...They are truly forgetting what made them get in the game this gen...and its Sad you fanboys cant see that

mad-dog5802d ago

eh.. why are you reacting to my post?
I basicly said natal isn't good for gaming.
there are other ways to use it though.

weird post in general.

Newtype5802d ago

Steal exclusives? That went to hell anyways, I mean FFXIII? That was more like a stupid move, and it made the FF franchise go to hell. They really didn't 'steal' exclusives aside from FF and most of the ones they did steal sucked real bad.

And when they did take FFXIII, knowing that Sony has stock in Square Enix..they probably ended up with getting part of MS' FF sales.

divideby05802d ago

after reading that, I am saying where is my killer app

labwarrior5802d ago

and present the right things in their conference in a few hours

Cyrax_875802d ago

and present the right things in their conference in a few hours"

Jesus...really? Did you actually say that? You think MS would purposely screw up any hype they had for Natal just to see the reactions of people during one of the most inportant gaming events of the year?

Seriously, the damage control is unbelievable. I nearly put my head through my computer screen.

kanedaakira5802d ago

you must be right - MS deliberately made a big mess of smoke and mirrors and alienated the journo's !

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio3d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing3d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster923d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit3d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing3d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster922d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay4d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn25d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn24d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown5d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay4d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay4d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac4d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger5d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster30005d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde5d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde4d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent756d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_4d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.