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Guerrilla Games: Devs "Can't Neglect" Storytelling

Hermen Hulst of Guerrilla Games talks about storytelling and shares some details concerning the plot of Killzone 3.

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DoomeDx5838d ago (Edited 5838d ago )

Link doesnt work for me

Edit: Nevermind! Firefox was messed up.
should doublecheck next time! :)

joeyda5838d ago

Ha, thanks! I was like, "shit, what?"

evrfighter5837d ago

Lol kz3 storyline is as generic as they come. Bookmark this. You will see a helghan defector that's more than likely a chick.

OpenGL5837d ago

I have to agree, even though I enjoyed Killzone 2 quite a bit. Most games suffer from generic-story-syndrome. A few exceptions include Uncharted, Infamous, Alan Wake, Heavy Rain, and Half-Life.

raztad5837d ago

Kz3 storyline? you know nothing about KZ3 dude. I'm gonna bookmark this.

BTW, how can I save this thread?

sikbeta5837d ago (Edited 5837d ago )

Guys it's a FPS, a God Damn FPS, the same bland stereotypical stories used in the FPS Genre all the Freaking Time,... come on, an Space-marine fighting aliens, different human races fighting each other and so on, don't tell me That [NOW] there is an issue with that...

Thank God they are Trying to Put some Story on the Game that will make KZ3 more Appreciable, anyway KZ3 = Day One...

gamelova5837d ago

I cannot wait for this game, my expectations are sky high. Please Guerilla, please don't fail me with the storyline.

mushroomwig5838d ago

The day devs neglect storytelling is the day I quit gaming. Story is the most important element to a game, period. You can have the most amazing graphics in the world but without a decent story to drive it..well, it's meaningless.

DoomeDx5838d ago

Most important element to a SINGLEPLAYER game. ^^

online doesnt need it :D

ShinMaster5838d ago (Edited 5838d ago )

Which is why I don't buy games like MW2, BBC2, or any other FPS unless they have a good and unique story. I can't stand a game that is only 3 hours long with multiplayer maps.

Maybe it's just me, but I can't survive on online play alone. It's never what pulls me to a game. The story is what gets me started and keeps me going. Online for me is still extra.
Having read the story behind Killzone, I hope to see good stuff from the next game.

BABY-JEDI5837d ago

But IF ONLINE has a story that evolves through the campaign via news reports mentioning casulties, successes or failures then you would have one hell of an amazing game!!!
Bring it on GG

-Alpha5838d ago

Storytelling is hard. FPS' focus so much on multiplayer that its hard to find a good story. Killzone 2 lacked a good story at all. Dialogue was annoying, objectives were typical (protect the convoy), etc. I am very happy to see Guerilla Games making it abundantly clear that they are going to focus on story. Killzone has a great back-history that needs to get properly told.

Anyways, I don't look for story too much in FPS's. I enjoy games like UC2, Shadow of the Colossus, etc. for story. I absolutely do love a game with a story and I have high hopes for inFamous 2 and The Last Guardian, even Killzone 3 with all the emphasis they've been giving on storytelling and gameplay.

mushroomwig5837d ago

You're completely right about Killzone 2, it was a pretty fun game but it was generic 101.

-Alpha5837d ago (Edited 5837d ago )

I wasn't expecting much from the story. It was a fun game, but the single player was average. I enjoyed the cover a lot actually, and the graphics were stunning, but gameplay-wise and story-wise there is so much more potential. The focus was on "Teh grafix!" for the single player. I was more disappointed with the fact that there wass such a good history present in the Killzone universe. It was left largely untapped in Killzone 2, but I fully expect Killzone 3 to deliver it. GG is promising bigger levels, bigger action (which was always a strong point next to the graphics in Single Player), more diverse gameplay (run n' gun AND cover and shoot with CQC, jetpacks, etc), and an amazing story. It's all I could ask for in a single player portion of a game. I have high hopes for the potentiality of K3.

trancefreak5837d ago

There were back peddling parts in killzone 2 that I didnt care for. Taking viscari square was one of them. Different waves of enemies and limited fighting space.

I like when you can transverse freely to another area or not stay in the same place for very long. The whole area was scripted.

Other than that im a die hard killzone 2 fan + the mplayer rocked - the rockets for me personally I liked the pistol only matches at radec acedemy.

raztad5837d ago

KZ2 story wasnt very well told and their characters were not developed yet the story was there. From the invasion (and Visaris amazing intro speech) to Visaris ultimate fate, KZ2 helped to move KZ universe forward.

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xabmol5837d ago

Gameplay is the most important element in a game.

xDaRkModEx5837d ago

Especially in FPS games.

beavis4play5837d ago

i think gameplay and story are equally important.

mushroomwig5837d ago

Gameplay is extremely high up on the list, but in my opinion it's story. :P

lukewind5837d ago

Exactly, which is why Killzone 2's mp is a dead zone today.

xabmol5837d ago

Story almost always takes a back seat to gameplay.

Motorstorm, Demon's Souls, Borderlands, Megaman, Virtua Fighter, etc. Even ICO and SotC have almost no real story. And the games I have that do have a great story also have gameplay of equal or GREATER status. ie UC, GoW, Mirrors Edge, J&D, R&C, MGS4, 3D Dot, etc...

Story is a great bonus, but at the end of the day I PLAY games to PLAY and watch movies/TV for story. Not every Dev can make games like UC2 and MGS, but as long as there fun to PLAY I'll love 'em!

Sarevok5837d ago

@lukewind
A dead zone? you fail at trolling.
you can find a list of full games on killzone 2.

The Iron Sheik5837d ago

I was playing KZ2 earlier today, plenty of rooms and plenty of people playing. If you had a PS3 and KZ2 you would know that.

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Tony P5837d ago

Yeah, sure GG.

I don't go to shooters for story. They lost that long ago when MP became more important than SP. I don't consider 3-4 games full of cliffhangers so they can keep milking the franchise "good" storytelling.

PrimordialSoupBase5837d ago

The most important thing to a game is its game. Its systems. Its mechanics.

Even with a competent story, something like Modern Warfare 2 is fundamentally a trash singleplayer design.

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LordMarius5837d ago (Edited 5837d ago )

This game is turning out to be a real gem, it's like every PS3 sequel is deemed for greatness all because of Uncharted 2

beavis4play5837d ago (Edited 5837d ago )

all of sonys first-party studios are exceptionally gifted. it was talent and hard work that made games like GOW3, ratchet:TOD (and "a crack in time"), and KZ2 so wonderful. if anything - each of the first-party studios drive each other to new heights......

the reason EVERY ps3 1st-party sequel is great?...all of the devs are great. it's the #1 reason i went with a ps3 instead of 360. no insult to the MS console - it's just that ALL of sonys first-party devs are amazing.

edit: at "franky" below me...not just day1 - i'll preorder as soon as someone will let me!!!!!

Darkstorn5837d ago

I'd argue that Metal Gear Solid 4 was the real turning point for the PS3. It's quality is still unmatched, in my opinion.

TooTall195837d ago

agreed, and KZ2 is better than UC2.

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piroh554d ago

There's too many games to choose from

No Metal geat solid 1,2,3,4?
No Resident evil?
No Silent hill?
No Midnight club 3?
No NfS Underground 2?
No Final Fantasy?
No Burnout 3?
No Dragon quest 8?
No Days gone?
No Ace combat?
No Tekken/Soul calibur?......
just from the top of my head

PS1 era was full of great RPGs, PS2 was racing generation i would pick top 200 and even that would be just a fraction.

FinalFantasyFanatic554d ago

30 is way too low over the entire history of Playstation, I just wouldn't be able to narrow it down that much, I would pick 100 at least.

Storm23554d ago

Yeah...really odd list. I get that it is personal preference and I love most of the games listed, but my list would definitely be different. I agree though, it would be incredibly difficult to come up with just 30.

lockedongamer1554d ago (Edited 554d ago )

I only picked first-party titles. Otherwise, I agree!

EDIT: Except for Days Gone, I don't get the love for it but you do you!

Chocoburger544d ago

I didn't like Days Gone either, it doesn't deserve to be on any best of list.

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20 Years of Guerrilla: The Story of a PlayStation Studio

The Amsterdam-based studio reflects on its humble beginnings, beloved franchises, and growth through the years.

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SullysCigar1120d ago

Up there with the top tier in the industry. Love Guerrilla Games - Horizon Burning Shores is simply STUNNING.

1Victor1120d ago

Can’t wait for their next franchise

SullysCigar1120d ago

Same. They nailed it with Horizon. The trouble is I also want a new Killzone! Can't I just have it all?!

jznrpg1119d ago

I’m with you I want Horizon 3 , Killzone and new IPs

badz1491119d ago

I have yet to play Burning Shores as I just started Forbidden West (bought at launch, just unwrapped last weekend LOL) and playing on PS5.

man...I still can't believe the graphics especially now I'm playing it on my LG OLED. that graphics and with stable performance backing it up, GG really is the master of their craft!

Vengeance11381120d ago

32.7M sales in the Horizon franchise! With 8.4M coming from Forbidden West alone! Truly a hugely successful game and franchise as a whole. Looking forward to Horizon III

Shane Kim1120d ago

That's kind of a huge drop though. It's only been two games.

VersusDMC1120d ago

One year after realease HZD sold 7.6 million.

https://www.noobfeed.com/ne...

So not a drop off.

Unless you're saying a HFW should have sold as much now as HZD sold in 5 years?

Vengeance11381120d ago

It's been 3 games, this includes Call of the Mountain. Also no, its a great improvement over HZD.

solideagle1120d ago

lol you are comparing:

HZD: 28 February 2017 - May 2023 (6 years+)

HFW: 18 February 2022 - May 2023 (1 year+)

We will see if it surpass original number.

Phoenix761120d ago

@shane, 2 full main games, 2 DLC add ons, 1 VR spin off game, oh and a an official LEGO set.
Not too bad for an ip that's only been on market for 6 years

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REDGUM1119d ago

Wow, very impressive. I didn't know the numbers were so high for Forbidden West. Still playing through it myself

thesoftware7301120d ago (Edited 1120d ago )

Yooo, when I first saw that Killzone 1 footage at E3, my friends my brothers and I were like, Holy shit! When it came out, it didn't look exactly like it, but we sunk so many hours into 1 & 2.

I even liked Killzone: SF, it was a spectacle to look at, and even today it looks good. I hope they make a new one. Can you imagine how that will look, and they can get some modern FPS pointers from Bungie.

blacktiger1119d ago

thank you fps lover, I'm with you

talocaca1120d ago

Such a wonderful studio. They deserve all their success.

The Decima Engine is absolute 🔥 I'm just mad they have abandoned Killzone.

OzzY-waZZy1120d ago (Edited 1120d ago )

Kinda wish they move on from Horizon tbh.

lukasmain1119d ago

They are probably working on mutiple projects. One of them is Horizon 3, but another is a multiplaer game and probably somehting else.

Imalwaysright1119d ago

There were rumours that they were working on a Socom reboot.

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Killzone 3 is playable with mouse & keyboard on PC via RPCS3 & KAMI

DSOGaming writes: "While Sony does not plan to release Killzone 3 on the PC, Yahfz shared a video that gives us a glimpse at what such a PC version could look like."

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bouzebbal1870d ago

Still looks secure 2 gens later... one of my favorite ps3 moments. With 3D and move the game is on another level

MadLad1871d ago

PC almost always ends up the best place to play games, even if it takes a while.

What would you rather play decades down the line? A game at a fixed resolution and frame, considering you have a working disc, and the hardware?
Or run it on an emulator that can update the experience all around, and let you use whatever control input you prefer?

If you insist on the former, it's really only for the sake of nostalgia.

Applejack1871d ago

I disagree. The main draw for consoles has always be the simplicity of just putting the disc in / downloading it and playing without worrying about anything else. The average person just wouldn’t want to deal with emulation even though it’s very important for preservation.

Terry_B1871d ago

Even emulators are super simple to use.

jukins1871d ago

Youre getting flak because people on here thibk of themselves as pc wizards. But honestly most poeple try and go get emulators and romz they end up with malware.. yes theyre "easy" if you know the basics but alot of people dont. That said the fact that its taken nearly 20 years to get a sustantially better experience for ps3 games than on its native system shows the complexity of getting bc to work. Sony, if they have any intention, should just invest in a vastly better psnow experience.

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Vegamyster1870d ago

jukins

Most people who emulate don't get malware, you'd have to be going to some weird sites for that to happen, heck years ago people were getting sketchier ad's resulting in malware warning on this site if you didn't have a ad-blocker lol.

SinkingSage1870d ago

Can't get malware if you legally dump your own games, which you should.

Rachel_Alucard1870d ago (Edited 1870d ago )

That's fine if that's the main draw, but it doesn't make it a better experience, just a preference. Having the freedom to do the things you can do on PC is what the appeal of PC is. Buying a game on PC means you never have to worry about the console makers just deciding the next hardware shouldn't support the generation anymore, which means everything you bought is stuck on that hardware instead of moving up with everything else. Nintendo uses this tactic to keep reselling the same games over and over at inflated prices. Sony cut all previous gens off the PS4 and sold it back to people in a poor attempt with PSnow. While the PS5 supports PS4 games, that may not be the case in the next gen after this. No to mention shutting off all the previous stores and updates completely. Even MS stopped making new BC titles at some point, so now there's a big list with 17 pages of titles that are not playable on Xbone and are just trapped on older gen. That's not a problem on PC, the reverse happens where you only have to worry if your hardware can play the newest releases at ultra with no issue.

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AzubuFrost1871d ago

Shhh don't say that aloud! You're going to trigger a lot of console infidels here.

Shane Kim1870d ago

I rather play it when it's available then wait 10 years.

MadLad1870d ago

Did you purposely miss the entire point of my post?

Inverno1870d ago

Well that's the beauty of still owning a retro console tho. Those who usually complain about emulation are just being blindly loyal to a company. Emulation is great for many reason, but if I still owned the console then I disagree nothing beats plugging it back in and going down a nostalgia trip

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RevXM1871d ago

The RPCS3 devs are doing great work. And Kami works nicely with it too it seems.
Very neat.

Magatsuhi1870d ago

Been playing mgo on pc with mouse. It's not perfect but I can make it work.

Binarycode1870d ago

2 is the better game.

A Remake would be good. 60fps 2-4k

Omar3li1870d ago

60fps is peasant for FPS games now

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