What's Japan?

PS3 tech>>>Xbox tech.

He is definitely right.Japanese engines and tech this gen is no where near west developers,its fact.Epic Games,Id Software,Crytek,ND,SM,GG...the y are all just much better when it comes to tech than Japanese guys.

Yet somehow, games like FFXIII take a dump over anything I've seen from Epic in the past few years.

Unreal Engine... hmm... yeah... anyone want to popin with something to say?

Japan can't keep up? Really?

LOL @ UE3

make something new and we'll talk later cliff

UnCharted 2 and Gears 2 blow all Japanese games in graphics out of water...

"US" is a little much, western development studios are generally ahead of their eastern counterparts this generation, for the most part anyway.

"US", typical.

.....Some of the best outsourced Gaming Engines are from the west. The west just happen to make the games that pushes the Tech envelope.

last guardian is gonna take a shit in ur mouth Cliffy.

quiffyB is going to say that
he literally has M$ tattooed on has shlong..

if he spent more time making games rather than having pictures taken of himself
he might understand what a complete tool he is..

well the western devs have took over tha gaming market and advanced it in many ways...

I thought he was Dude Huge now.

Anyway, doesn't he mean western tech ?

Crytek and Guerrilla Games are European.

Ok, ahhh Japan gave us the Wii and PS3, PSP, and the DS, what did the U.S gave us.... ooh that's right the Iphone and nothing else. Cliffy is so dumb.

playstation and nintendo says hi.

hmmmm could have a point there

Third party US devs are the most delusional bunch in the industry. It doesn't help that most of the media feeds fuel to the fire with these stupid articles and podcast that make their heads get bigger by the day.

That's made in China by overworked, underpaid Foxconn workers?

And lets not forget the mess UT3 was whe it first came out. The damage it did as a broken 3rd party engine.

He has a point, western developers mostly use PC's and then just port them to PS3 and 360. Japan tends to develop on consoles which have restricted resources. With PC there is no limits to their hardware.

With a few clear exceptions, I agree with the sentiment. Japan, on the whole, aren't keeping up technologically. They also shy away from many of the social aspects that we now consider to be fundamental. That said, I don't consider UE as a solution.

Hes right...

If western devs would need as long as japanese once to make a game than we would have 20 games in 5 years, lol (GT5 says hello)

But fanboys care only about quality right? lool

Quality = Playstation
1. GT4 = "700+ cars/50 Tracks" on one DVD with best graphics
2. Final Fantasy series
3. Metal Gear series
4. PES ...etc..

Quantity (Multi Million Sellers) = Nintendo
1. Wii fit
2. Wii Play
3. Wii Sports
2. Super mario Brothers
3. Pokemon ...etc

possible exception ----> Quality ( Uncharted / God of war )
possible exception ----> Quantity ( COD:MW2 / Halo)

"I THINK JAPAN CAN KEEP WITH US TECH"

Good ol' Cliffy... Always full of shit.

sure has been reported to be bad mouthing alot of other developer's work... GeoW3 better be a genre defining masterpiece.. He's certainly lost any credibility for me.
As other's have mentioned above; what does he have to say about things like GT5 and Last guardian?
Though I do believe that Naughty Dog are the top console developers at the moment.

There are still some amazing games comming out of Japan (my personal fav game this gen is MGS4) but out of the 18 current current gen game I own, only 2 are from a Japanese developer MGS4 and Street Fighter 4. Also doesn't help that 85% of the market is Western. They're not MW fans and were not Shengu Mitzi somthing bubble head fans…or gundam or Dynasty warrior - although maybe I'd like Rape Play lol. Notwithstanding, Nintendo still dominates all other developers in terms of sales but Wii doesn't have the type of games I like.

Well, MGS4 is still the best game I've played ever. so for me atleast, jpn are still strong.

Yay more shovelware and terrible games from america!!!!

Developers really need to shut the f-ck up this gen. Let your games do the talking, I don't pay Epic 65 bucks every two years so Cliff can let whatever combination of words he deems sensible fall out of his cakehole whenever he pleases. J@ckas$ should be focusing on getting Gears back on the right track with 3, I could barley bear to play the first half of Gears 2 even on hardcore. What I played of Gears 2 was so easy that I was far too bored by it to even consider poppinging it back in yet. Hell, I'd have to hook my 360 up again to even be able to do that and that won't happen until both Alan Wake AND Reach are on the shelves(not hooking the thing up for just one game at a time anymore).

The main problem is that PS2 was so successful, that a lot of Japanese devs' mentalities are still stuck back in that old era. Doing everything inhouse and build own game engine has long been a tradition. Perhaps it's because of the huge leap in terms of hardware between this gen and the last one. There are Japanese devs who put effort in adapting to newer platforms and succeded, while others failed miserably, just look at Last Rebellion.

Cliff the man just want to take advantage of the situation and make some bucks out of selling UE licenses. What he's trying to say to those Japanese devs who failed is "Here's a cheap and easy way to fast track your way into current gen game development, just pay to use my game engine". You see, if and when most Japanese devs adopt and become dependent on UE, their tech will be at best on par with US, they will never see the light of overtaking western developers again.

LMAO @ Cliffy

He should help sort his own company out first.

Do we need a reminder of how HARD it was to use Unreal Engine 3 on PS3, that alone led to lots of shoddy PS3 ports and delayed game at the start of the gen. Seriously why is he saying this?

If Naughty Dog said this (which they wouldn't they are humble) then I'd say ok you really are ahead of the game.

But from EPIC LMFAO....FF13, MGS4 and so on take a dump over their games!

holy shit look at all the armchair developers we have here at N4G who think they themselves could design and create a better looking engine. Shit, i dont come you your place of work and tell you i could make a better BIGMAC do i? either contribute to the article at hand or shut the fuck up about how you think UE is dated.

You are dumb, until any info is out on what system Bungies new game is being made for. You are just saying retarded things.

Funny part is that most of are tech in the US came from Japan or we paid people from Japan for some of their idea's to call them are own.

Simple way to put it, Japan is about 5 years ahead of us with tech most of the time, their hasn't been anything new made the US that change the world.

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Sorry but if it wasn't for the Japanese games, there would be no games.

This is just another one of those articles showing how arrogant us Americans can be.

While I don't disagree with what he's saying, why is every other story on here something Cliffy B is saying? Who cares what this goon thinks?

is a Uber Dweeb who turned cool because of a video game...just look at him..

the best american devs (graphically) are sony santa monica and naughty dog. the rest of the west's graphical muscle comes from europe (crytech and guerilla) but as long as Gran Turismo 5 is being developed by a japanese dev, no one can knock the east (especially devs from Epic)

Shaders, Textures, Lighting, Animations.

UC2 all the way.

Excuse me??? what nation has invented powerful brands of electronics. You Americans steal everything and claim that is yours. Cliff my boy you need to STFU because you begin to sound like Patcher.

It figures this comment would come from the Lames that make the Unreal Engine the biggest piece of crap engine in the history of video games that only gets used by lazy developers.

Actual Europe has the best Gaming engines at the moment.

Cryengine 2: (Crysis PC not that console crap)
Guerrilla Games: Killzone 2 engine
GSC X-Ray Engine: STALKER series.
4A Games 4A Engine: Metro 2033
DICE Frostbite engine: Battlefield BC 2

The Lighting, Physics, Particle Effects, Tessellation, animation, Atmosphere, character models, control, and the ability to interact with surroundings in these engines are the best as these engines offer the complete package.

This guy just needs to shut the hell up...every other day all i see is his name in a headline followed by some form of trash talking. Two words for you Cliff,

SHUT UP!

I think this guy is either a idiot or just jealous of Japanese gaming industry. If it weren't for Japan we wouldn't experience 32bit or 16bit from the oldie Nintendo days and PlayStation days in the 90's WHO MADE 3D REALISM GAMES. Of course we here in America started the console with ATARI hardware. But it was the Japanese who developed more faster and powerful graphics so without the Japanese knowledge in superior graphics all of us wouldn't enjoy all the great games we have in the pas 20 plus years or longer. I think he's living in the past or something. But look at SONY their taking a step forward with PS3. And look at Nintendo motion sensor remotes and gaming. This is my opinion btw.

lol Japan can't keep up with US douchebaggyness

The Japanese movie industry can't keep up with Hollywood tech either - Doesn't mean US movies are better...

Actual Europe has the best Gaming engines at the moment.

Cryengine 2: (Crysis PC not that console crap)
Guerrilla Games: Killzone 2 engine
GSC X-Ray Engine: STALKER series.
4A Games 4A Engine: Metro 2033
DICE Frostbite engine: Battlefield BC 2

The Lighting, Physics, Particle Effects, Tessellation, animation, Atmosphere, character models, control, and the ability to interact with surroundings in these engines are the best as these engines offer the complete package.

Must you always say something dumb, Cliff?

Let's see Nintendo created in Japan, very low failure rate. PS3 created in Japan, very low failure rate. Xbox created in America High failure rate. Yeah Japan can't keep up with the US. They should have asked Cliff why is the Xbox is still using DVDs and AA batteries.

Japan is still the tech giant.Only look at the Sony brochure,they have penetratred every aspect of western culture.In gaming this gen,nintendo introduced motion control,now every1 is following suit.Japan gives birth to 90% of all innovative ideas,west just follow their lead and polish the ideas.

my top 10 list of best games this gen is from Japan or Europe.
only games from ND and Insomniac from the US got to be in my top 10 list.

This American is confused as hell, I guess he forgot Japan even makes half the crap over there and ship it out here.

Cliffy b, you always strive to be better, you're competitve, you admitted your mistakes, and you kept gears on xbox because Microsoft " made it a massive success". You remained loyal when you couldve taken it to Sony and nintendo and made extra money. You're a stand up guy, but that statement you just made was idiotic. You sound like a grandma talking about something she knows nothing about but acts like she does. Don't do that cliff, it makes you look uncredible. We all know Americans make shit electronics RCA, Microsoft xbox, ge, Emerson, etc. Sony is a thousand times better than xbox case closed.

Have a nice day.

Bioware shuts it down!!!!!!!!!! FF was then this is now!!!

i once said that Cliffy B is the Michael Bay of video games. i was wrong...

...he's far worse. i respect him to an extent, and that extent starts when he mouths off about how good him and his team are. he's got an undeserved ego and i hope all these stupid comments he keeps making in public come to bite him in the ass soon.

really? I seen their Gears games, great looking games in 2006. But now? LOL come on.

Technology sure maybe the US trumps Japan but come on.. Japan is where all the creative genius is at.. they've made quite a lot of games in the last 10 years where you just want to pause midgame and reflect on how great it is to be a gamer.

its funny he said that unreal tech sucks balls.

the unreal engine is not impressive. i enjoyed mass effect 2 but playing the game on a large hd screen made the flaws stand out even more. the most graphically impressive games(on console) i played would be ff13 mgs4 uc2 and kz2. crytek(not a western dev) made one solid game but most of the pc people that i know are not playing games on their pc except for one whom made his pc and is playing the witcher. i think japan has been slow this dev cycle because they want to emulate western games which is a big mistake. i like games to have some diversity, in which cliffy has not been a force. less talk cliffy and more games..

Japanese dev houses are small, Japanese publishers are small. Japanese game budgets are small.

So yeah... they can't "keep up". They do pretty damn good with what they have to work with, though. Cliffy might want to take into consideration that Unreal is made with Western devs in mind, as well -- heck, even languages like C/C++ are easiest for native english speakers to understand, by nature. In a sense, western engineers are trained from birth to understand high-level programming languages, because those languages were modeled after English and its relatives.

Imagine what the difference in programming skill would be, given one programmer raised using base-10 math, and another using base-16. The base-10 programmer can get the job done, but the base-16 one would actually think in hexidecimal... They will always have an edge.

Japenese devs work with their own engines for more than one reason.

It´s as simple as this: That´s not true.

THE END.

I'm getting really annoyed by Cliffy B the guy is so arrogant, seriously guys he doesn't speak for all Americans.

so don't forget that fact!!!! if it wasn't for them there will never be a nintendo or Playstation game system. Yeah its true western gaming is dominating Japan, but they were the first to start this. Despite the Japanese having too many of those RPGs anime rainbow colored hair characters that seems the same in almost everyone of their games, there are great ones like Metal Gear Solid, Gran Tursimo, Ico, Demon Souls, Shunmue 1 and 2 and many others. The Japanese are in this gaming business until the end of it; they are not going anywhere no matter what happens. We still need Hideo Kojima,Shigeru Miyamoto, Shinji Mikami, and many great japanese game designers in this business. Cliffy B. is just a young amateur compare to these great designers. That Unreal 3 Engine is not the best. So many game companies brought this game engine and many of their games have some problems due to Unreal engine 3. For example even though Mass Effect 2 was a huge improvement over the first, you got to admit that the first had a lot of problems and it manage to get so many great reviews. It had framrate issues and glitches in cutscenes. Crytek engine by the way is looking to change that.

wow wow wow he is sdjfvnsdfhvb wow im just gunna bite my tounge on this one

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Unless you're talking about Console hardware.

God I hope hes not sighting Gears as an example.

I am not sure how Cliffy can say that US devs surpass Japn devs when Japan was the one that brought us

Resdient Evil
Meta Gear
Zelda
Mario
Gran Tourismo
Street Fighter

The list goes on. The reason that people feel like Western devs are surpassing Japan devs becasue FPS and TPS is the trendy genre now. Western devs makes better FPS and TPS. Japan is better at making RPG, FIGHTING, RACING, and PLATFORM games. So it depends on which genre your talking about.

How come most western devs are more cocky and arrogant. One successful game and they think they are all that....

Cliff probably wants to 'rephrase' that statement....
'I am fairly confident that US tech is approaching a level similar to japanese tech.....with the swansong of the UE engine fast approaching,we can finally begin to be free of it's grip....and look in awe upon the eastern promise".

LMFAO at the amount of comments.

That was the same with cars years ago... and TV / Cellphones / Hardware and etc

That's funny,I thought it was the other way around. >.>

Even Cooking Mama sh!ts on UE3

Nothin to do with most the best selling JP games being RPGs (where good graphics aren't exactly a requirement), or fan services.

he will eat his words

I honestly don't even see why it even matters if Japanese developers use the Unreal engine or not. I thought the reason why we play games was for the gameplay, not the graphics. A game could have the best western engine on the market, but if the gameplay stinks, then it just doesn't amount to anything.

I think Japan should stick to what they do well because it something that the western world certainly has a lot of catching up to do.

Agreed.
As engines go,it isn't in the vehicle rather the man behind the wheel.

i dont know whats worse......taking a game like gears 1 a masterpiece online to utterly unplayable even after update after update.. with gears 2... who keeps talking to this guy? i see his name on here just as much as patcher?

....and you can't keep your mouth shut.

No one commenting on this can say anything until they learn how to make games.japanese or american.

Rather learn how to play and enjoy.
That is it that is all.I can and will comment.Detrimental or no

THAT'S RACIST!

Are you freaking kidding me?

he made good games, and japan game industry isn't what it used to be

but they are the leaders when it comes to tech/electronics

ARE WELL JAPANESE.

"Japan can't keep up with the US technically, according to Gears man Cliff Bleszinski Speaking to Xbox World 360 magazine." -That is all I needed to know to tell that this article is filled with half truths(at best) and deception. The truth is the usa and japan have strengths and weaknesses, and the technological leadership standpoint in both countries fluctuates to either side from time to time so to me it really does not matter. And throwing the "unreal engine" comment(that I am so sick of hearing about for at least 5-10 years) in the article for good measure bores me to tears. Why don't they build new game engines from the ground up for each major exclusive game(s)/franchise(s) release on the xbox 360(like a certain other competitor does for their ip's), instead of using the same old game engine. That way they could take advantage of the console's full potential, or has the console's full potential already been tapped/maxed out.

'Japan can't keep up with US tech' - Cliff B

Wow, that's an epic quote. What a retarded thing to say.

Both US and JAP have awesome developers and technology.

todays US tech is yesterdays Japans tech

Thus far Europe is dishing some pretty sweet games. Technically speaking nor Japan or the west have delivered the best technically advanced game which is crisys from crytek a German game studio. Nor the most innovative game which is Little Big Planet from Media Molecule a England studio. Last but not least the first ever interactive movie which is Heavy Rain from Quantic Dreams a French video game studio. Do not forget Ubisoft which happens to be a French video game company releasing your favorite franchises assasins creed and splinter cell. So the facts are despite some great games and developers from the west or Japan they are still lagging behind Europe.

Ugh, so tired of hearing from this guy. Get over yourself Cliffy.

uhh nope its all the way around the US cant keep up with the japs tech. Go to japan and you'll know how great technology there is.

what in the world is this guy talking about? Japan is the Electronic Capital... Japan is playing games now that want reach the u.s. probably for another two year's Japan in the Electronic area is to ahead of it's time... I think the title should be the other way around...and you talking about they got this huge just play mobile cell phone games is a lame way of saying it lol Japan play's Console games who in their right mind is going to put consoles games down for good to play cell phone game's lol umm I think Japan is just fond to the PS3 & the Wii Rather than the Xbox360 if you really want to know what the deal really is cliff hahaha...

my ps3 stares at my xbox while playing exclusives and says are your graphics that bad

Honestly anyone releasing an Unreal Engine game shouldn't have to advertise it anywhere, it's just such a huge turnoff to see it once i start a game.

i think just saying west wont do, if you gonna split up you split in 3, jap, europe and USA. all 3 have great devs and thats all that matters to me. some great racing or rpg thank you japan, some free roaming games(gta/ac) or mad graphics (crysis) thank you europe, some shooters or action games thanks usa...