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3DS having PS3/360-like Processing Power unrealistic, NVIDIA unconnected with 3DS

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According to our two independent, unconnected sources, the Nintendo 3DS - almost certain to be revealed at E3 - features a design totally divorced from the NVIDIA Tegra SoC (system on chip) initially thought to have been powering the DS successor.

Meanwhile, IGN corroborates the story that NVIDIA is out of the picture, quoting "off-the-record" developer sources as saying that the 3DS is up there in the power stakes with PS3 and Xbox 360.

It's a statement that needs to be taken with barrel-loads of salt bearing in mind the enormous power draw such a chipset would require.

Indeed, even the four-core PowerVP chip said to be at the heart of the PSP2 offers a performance level some way between the original Xbox and the 360. A more modest GPU is therefore a much more realistic proposition, especially bearing in mind that even the iPhone 3GS with its PowerVR SGX535 architecture doesn't exactly command outstanding battery life in 3D gaming.

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Iamback5834d ago

LOL what did i say yesterday? Exactly that.

Hideo_Kojima5834d ago (Edited 5834d ago )

So 3DS comes with a built in car battery?

Lets avoid the power conception for a second.

Last year a false rumor suggested PSP 2 was rumored to include a chip that had the power to out put graphics such as those seen in early PS3 games. This seemed to work on paper. But it turned out that the PSP2 was not going to use this chip.

Now a year on the 3DS is said to use a cheap of similar power. So I do not doubt that if Nintendo wanted to go after the high graphical end of the industry AGAIN (remember GameCube had the most advanced hardware last gen) than it could be possible.

Just be sure if they do it may be 3DS vs PSP2 just like we have 360 vs PS3 now... the fanboys will love this.

gaffyh5834d ago

Anyone that seriously expected the 3DS to have as much power as PS3 or 360 is kinda stupid. Looking at the way Nintendo has been running their business, you can easily see that they are looking to make cheap hardware, and sell to the consumer at a profit from the word go. So unless they want top sell their handheld for $300+, it won't have anywhere near as much power as the PS3. Most likely, it'll be as powerful as GC maximum.

Cratos87805834d ago (Edited 5834d ago )

"So 3DS comes with a built in car battery?"

Car battery - LOL. I hope that was sarcasm.

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How much will the 3DS cost?

No official price has been revealed, but expect it to be within the price range of current handheld costs. In North America, the Nintendo DS Lite is currently $129.99, the DSi is currently $169.99, and the DSi XL is $189.99. To remain competitive, expect the cost of the 3DS to fall under $200 in the US, with the current generation of handhelds to receive price drops in preparation of the 3DS arrival.

http://ds.ign.com/articles/...

dgroundwater5834d ago

At first I expected a link to Hiphopgamer.

yewles15834d ago

Excuse me? Considering how not even the Wii can "vastly" outperform the original XBOX (XB1 as I call it), the most advanced hardware last gen?

Triella5834d ago (Edited 5834d ago )

No need to be a genius to understand how the 3D in the 3DS works : it has nothing to do with processing power, it's just plain reversed head tracking based on giroscopes and a two dimensional picture ... basically the same process used in holograph stickers.

And most importantly it has already been done in the past but probably nobody remembers the Atari Cosmos.

rockleex5833d ago

The images don't pop out, but instead looks like you're looking through a window.

Although I'm still waiting for 3D + headtracking in videogames.

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sikbeta5834d ago

lol a 3DS with the same power of The CBEA?

NO Freaking Way... Seriously, it's not gonna happen...

MegaPowa5834d ago

Not the same power it just said it surpassed the wii's processing power thus making closer to ps3/xbox360 the title of the article is kind of misleading.

nickjkl5834d ago

oh please it is possible

we are talking about a screen with many less pixels than a tv

technology tells us less pixels = less processing power

basically low resolution screen low quality graphics but fun game equals capable of 360 type power when put to scale

after all the psp has more power than a ps2

Christopher5834d ago (Edited 5834d ago )

Wait, someone actually believed it would have the processing power of a full-on console? I'm confused... A handheld today isn't even going to go beyond the Wii, but Nintendo won't surpass the PSP even.

ProjectVulcan5834d ago (Edited 5834d ago )

PS3/360 performance on the lastest silicon process still requires around 50-60 watts. No problem at all for a laptop and 9 cell battery, but totally impossible for a handheld sized device. At least four or five years away from that sort of performance in a device that compact.

Original Xbox performance however is perfectly viable for a new generation of handhelds. Assuming you want an upgrade of say 720x480 resolution on a small screen (Psp is 480x272), it would look really superb. Probably better than xbox games. Modern architecture emphasises pixel shading fillrate far more than the generation of GPU in the xbox, so you would expect much nicer effects used carefully by a good developer

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jjesso19935834d ago

this is just going to turn out to expensive and is just is not like nintendo but then again they have made alot of money of ds but really see me buying this if its over £250

Trroy5834d ago (Edited 5834d ago )

LoL. Nintendo isn't about performance. Nintendo is about profitability, and making a handheld affordable, and durable, enough for a parent to want to buy one for their kid.

The 3DS will probably be not much more than a stepping above a DSi, similar to the DSi(1 133/ 1 66 MHz ARM processors, 16MB RAM) stepping above the DS (1 66, 1 33 MHz ARM processors, 4MB RAM).

I'm calling it: A 266 MHz ARM, and a 133 MHz ARM. 32-64MB RAM. Basically on par with the PSP. Heck maybe they'll bump the ARM responsible for graphics ops a little more. That's a lot of handheld horsepower -- perfectly capable of rendering stereo images at PSP resolutions, and still fits with the Nintendo plan. Look at the DS, and the Wii. Is Nintendo looking to run in the console tech race, or are they looking to do mega-profitable business?

100% BC with the DS/DSi. Getting BC with the DS line would be next to impossible on anything but another ARM processor pair. Handheld processors aren't meaty enough to emulate the DSi in software yet, so they've got to be upgrades of the same architecture, or the 3DS would have to include a DSi in it.

Including a DSi, AND a new chip, would cost Nintendo a load of money. They aren't gonna do that. I can't imagine them all sitting in their comfy gold-encrusted chairs, saying "hey, lets sell stuff for a loss next... or just overprice it, and see how far we get with that. How about dumping the battery life to under an hour, too?"

nunley335834d ago (Edited 5834d ago )

so maybe this 3DS will have a DSI in it and just totally replace the DSI with this. They'll have to discontinue at least one DS system because i think that will be too many different ones being sold at the same time. anyone remember the SEGA NOMAD handheld, the portable that was also a home console system too.

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The rejection is non-final (and even when such rejections are labeled as “final”, the process is far from over, given that there can be, at minimum, an appeal to the Federal Circuit).

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Relientk7755d ago (Edited 55d ago )

Good, as they should! A game mechanic like that shouldn't be locked behind a patent, and Nintendo didn't invent it either.

PRIMORDUS54d ago (Edited 54d ago )

Nintendo wants to keep wasting money on bullshit lawsuits, real smart in this economy. They should put that money aside for other game projects. On the other hand, I don't care if they waste it all either, and they are screwed in the future maybe that will teach them a lesson.

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Nintendo Suing U.S. Government Over Tariffs

Nintendo filed a lawsuit in the United States Court of International Trade.

Nintendo of America is suing the United States government over the sweeping tariffs President Donald Trump put in place last year, according to a complaint filed Friday in the U.S. Court of International Trade and obtained by Aftermath.

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Deathdeliverer80d ago

Well dayum lol. Old agent orange pissing off every industry and nation.

0hMyGandhi79d ago

The fact that you have ANY disagrees will forever baffle me. And to the (apparent) MAGA contingent that exists on this website, enjoy your 8-9 dollar gas.

AuraAbjure79d ago (Edited 79d ago )

Yes, they had better be pissed after Trump told them the way they rip off the USA is over.

EveryPlatformGamer80d ago

LOL I read this on gaff, will they refund the money back to the gamers? highly unlikely. Didn't they just raise prices and pass it onto the gamers? Only Nintendo would send out the Ninjas to the US government.

-Foxtrot80d ago

That’s what I was thinking, imagine them winning hypothetically, getting a s**t load of money back which they would have lost if they hadn’t raised their prices and it’s business as normal.

It would just mean people paid more for no reason since they got the money back anyway.

Outside_ofthe_Box79d ago (Edited 79d ago )

A lot of companies partially passed the cost to consumers instead of all of it. They would still have to at least pay that back to gamers, but we know that won't happen. What's also sad is that prices won't come back down after the initial hike caused by tariffs.

People didn't understand the full repercussions of tariffs. That alone should have cost him the presidency if people knew it was a permanent price hike for consumers

Inverno80d ago

The people should sue these companies for having to over pay cause of these tariffs.

Eonjay80d ago

Naw they should sue the government for forcing the tax to begin with. No one reasonably expects these companies to absorb the taxes. Many smaller companies tried and were shut down or faced to increase prices to try to maintain their business. The tariffs effect everyone.

Inverno78d ago

I meant it mostly as a joke cause we all know the costs of these tariffs were passed onto the consumer. But it's seems no matter how vocal we are here in the states our "representatives" don't seem to care enough to represent us. And things are about to get worse.

Killer2020UK79d ago

The companies were doing what the law required then to do, the tariffs however were illegally implemented. Usually it's criminals we punish, you seem to have different ideas 🤷‍♂️

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