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3D Create As Much Shovelware As Waggle?

Jon Lynch: "With the recent announcement that Sony plans on implementing new 3D options in re-releases of old titles, it looks like we’re about to take another innovation in technology and use it to hold ourselves back. If that sounds confusing or like somewhat of an oxymoron, it shouldn’t because we’ve already experienced the exact same thing with waggle and motion controls."

vgn245822d ago

Of course it will. That's the direction gaming is going. Cheap production for overpriced games. Wii did it with motion and now PS3 will do it with 3D tacked on. BUT!!!! It's up to educated consumers to NOT buy the shovelware. Speak with your wallet. I mean when Uncharted 3 or somehting is built from the ground up with 3D, that will be awesome

PimpHandHappy5822d ago (Edited 5822d ago )

shovelware? your nuts if you think that... for one thing.. IN order do really do 3D most of us will need to spend LARGE money on a new TV
and 2nd... what games have we seen highlighted with this new 3D?!?!? I'll name 2... GT5 and KZ3!

all im saying is this... only REAL games will see 3D and Sony really doesn't do shovelware!!!! Im not saying they dont have a couple games you can call "shovelware" but for the most part Sony exclusives are dam solid

@Bearye
they also said with "new 3d capable Bravia" TV's and went on to list Super Stardust, Wipeout HD and Pain.. I played these games and maybe Pain is shovelware... the other 2 are great games... that was my point

@trapper Dan
please read what i wrote... i said REEEEEAL games and NOT shovelware will be used in 3D. I also pointed out 2 games that ARE NOT shovelware... you said this "Wii did it with motion and now PS3 will do it with 3D tacked on." Thats what i disagree with

BeaRye5822d ago

In the latest edition of Official PlayStation Magazine, Sony senior development manager Simon Benson said that the company plans to "retrofit" more existing games with stereoscopic 3D.

vgn245822d ago

You disagreed with me for saying Uncharted 3 in 3D will be awesome? Are you crazy?

http://n4g.com/news/536155/...

vgchica5822d ago (Edited 5822d ago )

Stupified at the blind idiocy of PHH. You never cease to amaze the masses by rambling and ranting nonsense.

*edit
The point isn't the TV or cost. It's the resources wasted on retro-fitting. Take an economics course genius .

PimpHandHappy5822d ago (Edited 5822d ago )

ok let me make this simple for ya because your comprehension skills are lacking

I responded because someone said 3D will bring shovelware like the waggle (Wii) did... Now you point out its about the COST of retro fitting and your point is right on two fronts... ONE IS NO ONE IS GOING TO BRING OUT CRAPPY PARTY GAMES WHEN THE COST IS EXTREME AND TWO IS THAT NO ONE IS GOING TO RETRO FIT CRAPPY GAMES... If they "retro fit" anything it will be a very small number of older games!!! THIS WAS ALL ABOUT SHOVLEWARE AND 3D AND IF YOU DIDNT GET THE POINT THEN GO SIT ON A D!CK

and btw DAN
Cheap production for overpriced games. I doubt making 3D games is going 2b cheap

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El Botto5822d ago

Games will be developed first and foremost for normal TV use. With the option to play it in 3D.

Get a clue.

360 dont have 3D. Your bitter tears taste so good.

ChickeyCantor5821d ago

" BUT!!!! It's up to educated consumers to NOT buy the shovelware. "

What may be shovelware to you may not be shovelware to others.
This got nothing to do with " education ". Its preference. So get off your high horse.
LOLKTHNX =)

GunShotEddy5822d ago

Shovelware isn't new and will always be around.

tunaks15822d ago

all systems will and have shovelware

raztad5822d ago

Shovelware and 3D? that doesnt compute. Unless you call 3D the fake 3D using red and blue glases.

3D games will be in the AAA range. Shovelware specialist companies dont have AAA budgets.

PimpHandHappy5822d ago (Edited 5822d ago )

thats what i was saying

@trapperDan
your pissing me off a bit... if a AAA game is brought out in 3D it is still a AAA game! If Uncharted 2 was brought out in 3D would it no longer be AAA?

since you like links here you go
http://www.bestbuy.com/site...
not really CASUAL gaming target audience is it?

SpoonyRedMage5822d ago

I don't think 3D is that costly, you don't have to create any extra assets. The only increased cost is making sure it runs properly.

and Ubisoft have 3DS devkits, you can bet anything that they'll be Imaginez: 3D games.

sikbeta5822d ago (Edited 5822d ago )

WOW, people really are Against 3D, Hope all of them Open their minds ans Accept 3D, well the only important thing is that they'll enjoy 3D as much as Everyone else when it Becomes Mainstream....

raztad5822d ago

@Spoony

I dont know you but I was thinking about 3D on the PS3. You know HD stuff (or almost HD) not cheap tricks to fake 3D.

On the 3DS it's a given you will see a lot of shovelware. Speaking of which, should I remember that shovelware means low quality stuff on a budget? I dont see anyone working on a budget allocating money to make the shovelware 3D, well at least on the PS3, where to produce a so-so looking (in 2D!!) game require an important investment both in money and time. I cant imagine those devels walking the extra mile to have a 3D game.

ChickeyCantor5821d ago

If the PS3 would have had the success of the Wii, the shovelware would have been there.
Same happened to PS2.

And spoony is right, you dont really change any assets, its usually a render tech in the end. All they have to do is make it work without crashing.

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BattersUp5822d ago

What kind of idiot thinks adding 3D to an old AAA title makes it a 3D AAA title? Then slap it on PS2 games HandyHappy. LOL

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(For Southeast Asia) New Price Changes for PS5, PS5 Pro, and PlayStation Portal remote player

For Southeast Asia, new price changes.

Prices effective starting May 1st, 2026.

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BeHunted15d ago

Looks like PlayStation took a hit with Marathon and is now quietly adjusting prices worldwide to recover the losses

andy8515d ago

Lets be honest raising prices doesn't do that when no one's buying it. I imagine the profit it greater selling 10 times more at a lower price

Pergele14d ago

Whatever you say buddy, let's all wear the tinfoil hats.

IceKoldKilla14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

LMFAO Your comment alone says a lot more about you than anything else. When has one game not selling 10 million copies made a company raise the prices of their console? Then Xbox would be costing $5000 by now lol. You remind of the crazy drug addicts on the street rambling on about conspiracies. xD You sure you don't need a hug, buddy?

ChunkyMonk14d ago

One game that Sony payed $200 million for. lol
Also, you sure were quick to get triggered. Maybe your the one who needs a hug?

Eonjay14d ago

If nothing else, we should be united against the real issue here. AI and unnecessary tariffs that are effecting all gamers.

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Athlon10115d ago (Edited 15d ago )

The price increases are due to the RAM demand associated with AI and the US-Iran war. You can look to any business news website and local news to see that. Heck, even the 2026 Asus Zenbook Duo I've been eyeing has faced delays and has had a price increase of $400; that laptop has two specs. Asus is doing a staggered release with per-orders for the lower spec now and shipping in May and pre-orders for the higher spec that I'm eyeing starting in June. Basically, all computer manufactures are affected. It'll most likely start affecting smart phones too if it hasn't already. I can't remember the last time any major console maker (Nintendo, Sony, Sega, etc) increased the price of their console mid cycle outside of Microsoft just to make more profit.

S2Killinit14d ago

Its not the war. Its the RAM issue.

jznrpg14d ago

War is causing gas prices to rise. Transport of everything requires gas so the prices of those items go up as well. So it does have an impact

Athlon10114d ago (Edited 14d ago )

The blockage of the Straight of Hormuz due to the US-Iran war has affected raw components used in semi-conductor manufacturing such as bromine, aluminum, and helium. Iran had attacked the liquified natural gas (LNG) plant in Qatar which is a large producer (1/3 globally) of helium which is used in semiconductor etching. So it's the both the war and the RAM crises.

badz14915d ago

Oh no...should I get the Pro now before the price increase?

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Former Xbox Exec Says Developers Didn't Want a Sony Monopoly

Former Xbox executive Ed Fries comments on the early days of Xbox, the opinion of Japanese game companies, and more.

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Reaper22_28d ago

I dont think that'll ever happen. But i must say back in the day, they were definitely trying because they were more cash rich than their competitors.

CosmicTurtle28d ago

I think MS were and still are the richer company. They tried to acquire Sega back in the day (and considered doing so again more recently), they obviously bought exclusivity to Halo which was originally shown as a Mac title. I don’t think as a company MS can claim the moral high ground here. It’s a wilful lack of self awareness.

Of course Sony would try exactly the same if they had the resources, but when the PS2 dominated the industry was in a much healthier place with an abundance of great third parties.

This has been a depressing generation as far as first party decisions are concerned. The fact we are debating business plans rather than which game is better is a sad reflection of the state of things.

Darkseeker28d ago (Edited 28d ago )

There was Nintendo as well, Sony wouldn't have had a monopoly. In fact, the world would be better today if Xbox never existed in the first place. They pretty much brought all bad practices we have today. We might have gotten all of it either way, but not this early. In term of franchises, I don't think there is anything Microsoft released that would actually be missed if it didn't exist. Even Halo the world wouldn't notice if Halo didn't exist.

S2Killinit28d ago

MS was definitely a bad influence on gaming.

raWfodog28d ago

I think almost everyone will agree that a monopoly is not good for the industry. But that being said, the competition needs to be smart and strategic with their business. Simply buying up publishers and traditional third-party studios just to keep them out of the other companies reach is not a sustainable practice. That goes for all parties so don't think I'm just referring to Xbox.

I'm no business guru by any stretch of the imagination but I firmly believe that the best way to drive consumers to your software and hardware is to invest smart in your first-party studios. Give them full support and guidance in making unique, fun games that are only available to play in your ecosystem and the gamers will come.

Reaper22_28d ago (Edited 28d ago )

But first party studios aren't enough. They only make up a small portion of the industry. Without 3rd party there would be no industry for Microsoft or sony.Developing games take time and money and sometimes you gotta make moves to stay competitive.

raWfodog28d ago

Nah, I never said first-party was enough. I said it’s the ‘best way’ to drive gamers to your platform. 3rd-party is a free-for-all and there’s no guarantee that gamers will use your hardware to play the game. If you want to push your own software and/or hardware you need first-party, or at least exclusive deals with third-party studios.

SimpleDad28d ago

They Shure did a great job... 25 years later Xbox is dead.

Reaper22_28d ago

Then why be so emotional and continue to talk about it. Xbox will never die be ause it stays in so many people's head.

lodossrage28d ago

How can you even see him being "emotional" in that comment?

If anything, you're the emotional one, constantly trying to go at anyone that says anything against Microsoft. So when you call him emotional, it comes off as deflection

Elda28d ago

I own an XBSX & I can say it's becoming irrelevant out of the 3 current consoles.

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Sony Shows Off 20 Minutes of Crimson Desert on a Base PS5

Sony uploaded gameplay footage of Crimson Desert on a base PS5 running in what appears to be Quality Mode at a stable 30fps at 4K.

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BlazedKong54d ago

looks god awful on the base systems