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Why Natal Will Succeed

NowGamer examines the evidence to suggest why Natal will succeed in a marketplace full of competition.

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Tony-A5813d ago

This one's definitely getting approved.

Dance5813d ago

any other day its usually being bashed

IdleLeeSiuLung5813d ago

They are definitely already here.

Hallmark Moment5813d ago (Edited 5813d ago )

I know how did it get through? only negative ones are allowed here on N4Gs.

"Hey Look, Positive Natal Prediction"
They're not hard to find in most other gaming sites with credibility. Just not here on N4G and other pro Sony sites N4G attracts.

NecrumSlavery5813d ago

Everyone hated on Motion until the 360 and PS3 came out with it too.

Now the hardcore fans are bashing each other.,,,,....lol....Funny

But this is my view on it. Move isn't going to be $150, unlike NATAL. And for a 150 bones, you got to show me something other that tech demos that aren't really coming out or getting patched into current games, or THE RED BALL game...Where is the Hardcore?

travelguy2k5813d ago

aspect that gamers hated. It was the complete lack of improvement in the technology/graphics. 360 and PS3 both pushed the envelope in graphics which is what everyone looks at first when comparing the next gen systems. Wii did not improve.

Now if the 360 and the PS3 can do both, then that is an improvement. And we can all be happy.

Tony-A5813d ago (Edited 5813d ago )

Did I ever say Negative Natal press doesn't get approved? Of course it gets approved.

For fanboys, it's always a back and forth.

"Bu-but we had negative natal news last week, so we gotta even things out with a positive one!"

For every article saying "$150 is too much", there's one that says it'll succeed nonetheless.

Some of you are undeniably ridiculous.

PS: @Dance. Those articles aren't bashing Natal's hardware capabilities. They're bashing the price. Quite justifiable indeed. The PS3 was criticized for it's price, which everyone had the right to disagree with. Price is always an issue. All these positive ones are basing Natal's potential success on what they think should happen.

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Mr Logic5813d ago

Natal is happening people need to face it. I don't really care as I don't have a 360 so I'm not getting Natal. The only thing I have a problem with is the article itself. It feels like it was written as speedy propaganda. It's praising something we haven't yet really seen in action and has plenty of spelling mistakes.

Alcon Caper5813d ago

Actually, the article is written well. It hits on several pros for the system that I haven't thought about and it's longer then a page.

It's not Shakespeare, but not much is nowadays on N4G.

Bigpappy5813d ago

They actually said that they have seen games for Natal that they are not able to tack about yet. That is what they are basing their predictions on, not what you and I have seen, but what they have seen.

AAACE55813d ago

I've been thinking about Natal alot lately and have come to a conclusion...
I think Natal will do really well! Hear me out first...

Nintendo has had alot of success with the Wii and the Ps3 looks to provide a great experience as well. But after thinking about Natal, I realized MS can go in many different directions with it!

Nintendo is getting away with selling all kinds of add-ons. The expensive Wii fit, the Motion plus, etc. People are using it for games and exercise.

MS has the Natal tech which could open this all up. If you think about it, everyone wants to lose weight. The primary thing to do for weight loss is to get active by moving the body around, get the heart rate going and get a good sweat going. We have seen many infomercials where they are trying to sell you some crappy gimmick like a ab buster or workout video. The problem with those is they get boring and you lose interest in them.

Natal is going to provide the best of both worlds. Nintendo and Sony will allow you to get an upper body workout, but Natal will give you a total body workout. It became clear to me when I started thinking about how the body works and thinking about some of the games.

It will allow you to get a workout while having fun and the best part is you won't think about it that much because you will be trying to play the game!

I'm not bashing either, but I am saying that if MS does this right, Natal could truely take off!

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Meryl5813d ago

yawn it needs a NOT addidng to the title, I sick of false hyping, all natal is shown is huge red balls if that is the future then I will quit gaming

Dance5813d ago (Edited 5813d ago )

1080p and 3d gaming on console isnt false hyping either

knight6265813d ago (Edited 5813d ago )

yes i cant wait to pay $150 for a piece of camera that my ps3 already has
also cant wait to talk to a little kid and when my neighbors pass by they will think iam alone with him...natal will change the world by making us go crazy if u know what i mean...flapping you hands and legs trying to hit a red ball for sure its going to beat move. o wait my bad iam passing on natal

@jack Klugman At least the move will give me pleasure

Jack Klugman5813d ago

you mean that camera that flopped and sony gave no support too? the one that cant even be used in low light?

ermm no.. if you want to compare the eye or eyetoy to something make it the vision xbox 360 camera then its actually a fair fight.

im sure the only game will be a red ball game dunce. i suppose you would rather jump around holding to glowing dildos in your hands.. thumbs up mr cool!

Mr Logic5813d ago

1. You obviously don't know what a dildo looks like.
2. The Eye has twice the refresh rate and resolution as the Vision cam.
3. The Eye was never designed as a major gaming device it was mainly devised for video chat, despite this it still has a fair amount of titles for it including the new Kung Fu game.
4. It has sold 500,000 units in NA alone. Those consumers just need a Move now.
5. Even though it doesn't work amazingly well in low light, it doesn't matter because the Move glows.

Rucury5813d ago

... that I may or may not buy this.

Also, I learned today that the "not" joke never gets old...

But in all seriousness, I keep hearing Natal has a bit of lag... I imagine it would be hard to play First-Person Shooters or for example games that require fast reflexes if the lag is noticeable...

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio2d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing2d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster922d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit2d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing2d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster922d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay4d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn24d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn23d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown4d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay4d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay4d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac3d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger4d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster30004d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde4d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde3d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent755d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_3d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.