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Guerrilla: 'Killzone 2 lacked variety'

CVG: The main difference between Killzone 2 and Killzone 3 is variety, according to Guerrilla producer Steven Ter Heide.

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Dylantalon15842d ago

too much variety can be a bad thing, remember gamespot gave ratchet and clank a lower score because they said it had too much variety. anyway i cant wait for killzone 3 which im sure will be the best shooter of 2011.

solidjun55842d ago (Edited 5842d ago )

He works for Bitbag now. That was a funny review.

Is it me or does CVG only takes segements of the interview and presents them as seperate news? Seriously, just show the whole thing.

solidjun55842d ago (Edited 5842d ago )

I also recall Aaron Thomas (I could be wrong) writing a piece about Uncharted 2 not deserving all those perfect scores but at the same time writing about his friend who is terminally ill. Was that him? Either way, I thought it was inappropriate. He's using his sick friend in that way.

Kleptic5842d ago

oh yeah...Gamespot's now famous 2007 collapse...Aaron Thomas drops a 7.5 on a game averaging over 90 because of too much 'variety'...and Ryan Davis's only complaint about Uncharted (giving it an 8 i believe) was the 'tough and frequent enemies are frustrating at times'...basically slapping a game for having good AI?...ok, I guess...

Davis is at giantbomb now, with gerstmann...who was by far one of the best, and still is, reviewers around imo...he is the dude that got canned from GS for saying kane and lynch sucked...it did suck...so good for him...giantbomb is better anyway...and he owns it...

Chubear5841d ago (Edited 5841d ago )

Ahhh, great improvments with your squeals, that's what I like to see. Great work GG.

My fav from GS has always been "Motorstorm: meh not much stuff to race with - 7.9/10" then Motorstorm2 comes out with 5times the amount of "stuff" and it's

"Motorstorm2 - 8/10" I couldn't stop laughing for a week.

Maybe better was gametrialer's "Motorstorm1: no destruction derby mode - 7.8/10" but give more of that 9/10 for Perfect dark zero :P Just go take a look at GT review and listen to the tone of the review and refresh your memory of this "launch" title and remember what it was like to be a PS3 exclusive.

There are games out today that don't have "variety" or enough modes that get 9s a lot but no problemo for them lol

Inside_out5842d ago (Edited 5842d ago )

Next thing there are gonna say is KZ 2 sucked, this one doesn't...Why is things so desperate at Guerrilla and Sony that they want to spoil the entire game before it comes out...I mean the game is not out till 2011...

They have reviewers playing demo's...WTF is that...UNLESS it's coming out this year...I don't know...Kotaku had a go at the demo and thinks it needs some work...these guy's need a time out...

BTW...here's the u-tube cammed video of KZ3...looks...um...similiar... just saying...

solidjun55842d ago (Edited 5842d ago )

Desperate? What the hell are you talking about? Oh that's right, you don't know what you're talking about. They have reviewers playing the demo? Yea, it's a demo and it's being played by people in the industry. Plus they get feedback for the game to be more polished. Use your brain for something more constructive instead of your constant trolling. Your troll rap sheet is longer than Suge Knight's criminal record. That's a lot. Just saying.

DigitalAnalog5842d ago (Edited 5842d ago )

You think too small. That's not spoiling. Remember the game is 10x bigger. Oh that's right, you're still stuck with DVD9.

Channngeeee DISC!!!

-End statement

WLPowell5842d ago

I totally remember jet packs, removable gun turrets with homing missles, melee-death sequences, and snow in KZ2... Totally remember that... You're so right!/s

But I guess you mean the visuals/graphics are similar... Still looks better than anything on any console I've seen.

n4gno5841d ago

Desperate ? the word is only usefull for delusionals bots like you, in total denial land. :)

they are talking about more variety (who is not always a good stuff), and the fanboy translate "desperate", kz2 is one the best game from 2009, have better graphics than anything you can play, and sold well, where is the problem ? (in your brain, i know)

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nycredude5842d ago

The title is BS. They were never actually quoted to say this. They said they didn't have as much as they wanted and Killzone 3 will have much more!

FACTUAL evidence5842d ago

I think GG knows what they are doing. It's not the fact that GG's KZ2 sucked, the point is that KZ2 seems a little dull to theme being as they are adding a lot of new things in two. If GG is saying that about their title that people loved, just imagine how 3 is going to be...They talk about lack of variety so all i can speculate is: Better/more weapons, better game modes, some sort of online co-op.

FragGen5841d ago

Sometimes it's okay to stick with the forumula and refine it... I think if they add just a *little* variety it'll spice it up but still get the magical mix of KZ2. I definitely think KZ2's Single player was a nice high standard and the MP was sweet... loved the bots, too.

But I also think it can be overdone. I felt Gears 2 crossed the line a bit... the worm level and some other stuff just felt like it was put in for critics rather than gamers.

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tripewire5842d ago

I was just playing the final push upto Visari palace.

Man Killzone 2 is APESH*T. HUD and reticule off, Vivid TV setting.... F*cking gorgeous, f*cking hectic.

FangBlade5842d ago (Edited 5842d ago )

Whats with the F*cking?
Just say fucking and get it over with.

nix5842d ago

yup.. the final chapter is just too epic.

KZ2 still is the only FPS i own. and i'm not a FPS fan.

great news is that KZ3 is going to be better. yay!

Kleptic5842d ago

I guess its great that GG feels that way, but i didn't...I loved both halves of the game...its NOT a corridor shooter like many who haven't played it try to label it...

only complaint I have single player wise was Rico...Radec was absolutely awesome as a villain...but Rico was equally at the other extreme...and its obvious now he is back for killzone 3...make him less of a total douche and i probably won't have a single complaint about killzone 3's single player...

tinybigman5842d ago

i have a friend who's constantly trying to convince me that the game was overhyped and didnt look that great because it wasnt artistic enough. i told him it didnt matter to me because i still loved the game from beginning to end, and i play games to enjoy not be overly critical of them.

BeaArthur5842d ago

I would agree, I enjoyed KZ2 but I would have liked to see some different locales.

8thnightvolley5842d ago

imagine seeing killzone3 in green folliage in a level and alot more colour that would be something nice to see

maka5842d ago

still have more variety than most FPS

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piroh547d ago

There's too many games to choose from

No Metal geat solid 1,2,3,4?
No Resident evil?
No Silent hill?
No Midnight club 3?
No NfS Underground 2?
No Final Fantasy?
No Burnout 3?
No Dragon quest 8?
No Days gone?
No Ace combat?
No Tekken/Soul calibur?......
just from the top of my head

PS1 era was full of great RPGs, PS2 was racing generation i would pick top 200 and even that would be just a fraction.

FinalFantasyFanatic546d ago

30 is way too low over the entire history of Playstation, I just wouldn't be able to narrow it down that much, I would pick 100 at least.

Storm23546d ago

Yeah...really odd list. I get that it is personal preference and I love most of the games listed, but my list would definitely be different. I agree though, it would be incredibly difficult to come up with just 30.

lockedongamer1546d ago (Edited 546d ago )

I only picked first-party titles. Otherwise, I agree!

EDIT: Except for Days Gone, I don't get the love for it but you do you!

Chocoburger537d ago

I didn't like Days Gone either, it doesn't deserve to be on any best of list.

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20 Years of Guerrilla: The Story of a PlayStation Studio

The Amsterdam-based studio reflects on its humble beginnings, beloved franchises, and growth through the years.

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SullysCigar1112d ago

Up there with the top tier in the industry. Love Guerrilla Games - Horizon Burning Shores is simply STUNNING.

1Victor1112d ago

Can’t wait for their next franchise

SullysCigar1112d ago

Same. They nailed it with Horizon. The trouble is I also want a new Killzone! Can't I just have it all?!

jznrpg1112d ago

I’m with you I want Horizon 3 , Killzone and new IPs

badz1491112d ago

I have yet to play Burning Shores as I just started Forbidden West (bought at launch, just unwrapped last weekend LOL) and playing on PS5.

man...I still can't believe the graphics especially now I'm playing it on my LG OLED. that graphics and with stable performance backing it up, GG really is the master of their craft!

Vengeance11381112d ago

32.7M sales in the Horizon franchise! With 8.4M coming from Forbidden West alone! Truly a hugely successful game and franchise as a whole. Looking forward to Horizon III

Shane Kim1112d ago

That's kind of a huge drop though. It's only been two games.

VersusDMC1112d ago

One year after realease HZD sold 7.6 million.

https://www.noobfeed.com/ne...

So not a drop off.

Unless you're saying a HFW should have sold as much now as HZD sold in 5 years?

Vengeance11381112d ago

It's been 3 games, this includes Call of the Mountain. Also no, its a great improvement over HZD.

solideagle1112d ago

lol you are comparing:

HZD: 28 February 2017 - May 2023 (6 years+)

HFW: 18 February 2022 - May 2023 (1 year+)

We will see if it surpass original number.

Phoenix761112d ago

@shane, 2 full main games, 2 DLC add ons, 1 VR spin off game, oh and a an official LEGO set.
Not too bad for an ip that's only been on market for 6 years

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REDGUM1112d ago

Wow, very impressive. I didn't know the numbers were so high for Forbidden West. Still playing through it myself

thesoftware7301112d ago (Edited 1112d ago )

Yooo, when I first saw that Killzone 1 footage at E3, my friends my brothers and I were like, Holy shit! When it came out, it didn't look exactly like it, but we sunk so many hours into 1 & 2.

I even liked Killzone: SF, it was a spectacle to look at, and even today it looks good. I hope they make a new one. Can you imagine how that will look, and they can get some modern FPS pointers from Bungie.

blacktiger1112d ago

thank you fps lover, I'm with you

talocaca1112d ago

Such a wonderful studio. They deserve all their success.

The Decima Engine is absolute 🔥 I'm just mad they have abandoned Killzone.

OzzY-waZZy1112d ago (Edited 1112d ago )

Kinda wish they move on from Horizon tbh.

lukasmain1112d ago

They are probably working on mutiple projects. One of them is Horizon 3, but another is a multiplaer game and probably somehting else.

Imalwaysright1112d ago

There were rumours that they were working on a Socom reboot.

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Killzone 3 is playable with mouse & keyboard on PC via RPCS3 & KAMI

DSOGaming writes: "While Sony does not plan to release Killzone 3 on the PC, Yahfz shared a video that gives us a glimpse at what such a PC version could look like."

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bouzebbal1863d ago

Still looks secure 2 gens later... one of my favorite ps3 moments. With 3D and move the game is on another level

MadLad1863d ago

PC almost always ends up the best place to play games, even if it takes a while.

What would you rather play decades down the line? A game at a fixed resolution and frame, considering you have a working disc, and the hardware?
Or run it on an emulator that can update the experience all around, and let you use whatever control input you prefer?

If you insist on the former, it's really only for the sake of nostalgia.

Applejack1863d ago

I disagree. The main draw for consoles has always be the simplicity of just putting the disc in / downloading it and playing without worrying about anything else. The average person just wouldn’t want to deal with emulation even though it’s very important for preservation.

Terry_B1863d ago

Even emulators are super simple to use.

jukins1863d ago

Youre getting flak because people on here thibk of themselves as pc wizards. But honestly most poeple try and go get emulators and romz they end up with malware.. yes theyre "easy" if you know the basics but alot of people dont. That said the fact that its taken nearly 20 years to get a sustantially better experience for ps3 games than on its native system shows the complexity of getting bc to work. Sony, if they have any intention, should just invest in a vastly better psnow experience.

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Vegamyster1863d ago

jukins

Most people who emulate don't get malware, you'd have to be going to some weird sites for that to happen, heck years ago people were getting sketchier ad's resulting in malware warning on this site if you didn't have a ad-blocker lol.

SinkingSage1863d ago

Can't get malware if you legally dump your own games, which you should.

Rachel_Alucard1863d ago (Edited 1863d ago )

That's fine if that's the main draw, but it doesn't make it a better experience, just a preference. Having the freedom to do the things you can do on PC is what the appeal of PC is. Buying a game on PC means you never have to worry about the console makers just deciding the next hardware shouldn't support the generation anymore, which means everything you bought is stuck on that hardware instead of moving up with everything else. Nintendo uses this tactic to keep reselling the same games over and over at inflated prices. Sony cut all previous gens off the PS4 and sold it back to people in a poor attempt with PSnow. While the PS5 supports PS4 games, that may not be the case in the next gen after this. No to mention shutting off all the previous stores and updates completely. Even MS stopped making new BC titles at some point, so now there's a big list with 17 pages of titles that are not playable on Xbone and are just trapped on older gen. That's not a problem on PC, the reverse happens where you only have to worry if your hardware can play the newest releases at ultra with no issue.

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AzubuFrost1863d ago

Shhh don't say that aloud! You're going to trigger a lot of console infidels here.

Shane Kim1863d ago

I rather play it when it's available then wait 10 years.

MadLad1862d ago

Did you purposely miss the entire point of my post?

Inverno1863d ago

Well that's the beauty of still owning a retro console tho. Those who usually complain about emulation are just being blindly loyal to a company. Emulation is great for many reason, but if I still owned the console then I disagree nothing beats plugging it back in and going down a nostalgia trip

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RevXM1863d ago

The RPCS3 devs are doing great work. And Kami works nicely with it too it seems.
Very neat.

Magatsuhi1863d ago

Been playing mgo on pc with mouse. It's not perfect but I can make it work.

Binarycode1863d ago

2 is the better game.

A Remake would be good. 60fps 2-4k

Omar3li1863d ago

60fps is peasant for FPS games now

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