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Natal to Cost $200?

Mucu from GamesOnSmash writes, "Recently, three Swedish retailers have shown that Microsoft’s project Natal will sell for 1,499 SEK, which comes in just under $200! Wow."

What do ya'll think about that?

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Natsu X FairyTail5845d ago

I doubt they'll sell it at 200$. Anybody with an xbox already wouldnt go buy it for the price of a Arcade console. But maybe they sell games at higher prices in Sweden? we dont know.

FlipMode5844d ago

That's not a smart move by MS, so I think this is fake.

Darkstorn5844d ago

No, Sweden sells games for the exact equivalent of $60. Either this is a misprint or Microsoft is heading for a brick wall.

HolyOrangeCows5844d ago (Edited 5844d ago )

Well, when they charge...
$100 for a 60GB HDD,
$130 250GB HDD,
$100 for a wireless attachment,
$30-50 for a half gigabyte memory card,
$50 for a controller w/o rechargeable battery pack,
etc
...I wouldn't be too surprised.

I hope it's not. I was hoping it would be ≤$50, because I doubt I will be playing full-fledged games that ONLY use the camera.

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Myzer5844d ago

oohWii, what has Move got to do with this article? Stop being an idiot.

If Natal is $200 is it WAY too much, end of story, any pricing of Move is completely irrelevant to this rumour.

Elvfam5115844d ago

$100 for move is gonna bring move, the sub controller, the camera, and a game. I think its gonna be $40 bucks for move and the sub controller as standalone package. < All this is rumored if i remember correctly.

Your willing to pay $200 just for natal. I'll understand if its bundle with a game or with the Xbox 360.

Elvfam5115844d ago (Edited 5844d ago )

Oh wait....

Elvfam5115844d ago (Edited 5844d ago )

Triple post Booooyaaahhhh

scofios5844d ago

they are fucked both ways , if they sell it for 200$ there are screwed because Its To expensive , if they sel it for 50$ they are screwed to , Let's be honest here people , Wood you belive that a 50$ electronic device can do what they showed and promised at E3 last year , that milo ( artificial intelligence ) and stuff.

kunit22c5844d ago

They are selling something that cant play hardcore games for $200 when Sony is selling something that can play hardcore games for less than $100... hmm... interesting,And casuals are barely buying the Wii at $200, do they really think casuals are going to go buy a 360 then also go spend $200 dollars on Natal? I don't think so, but I think they will release a bundle to lower the price by like $50 but I still don't think it will sell very well.

BISHOP-BRASIL5844d ago

OooWii, you know that this rumor of 100 bucks for move was about a complete bundle with Move, NavCon (nunchuck) , Camera and Game, don't you? The Move + NavCon is supposed to cost something from 40 to 60, as the DS3 controller. So, chances are that with 200 bucks you get 3 move sets (move + navcon), the camera and a game. That's 8 piece of hardware in your shelves.

We could say virtually Natal has a lot of value because it's worthy many controllers, let's say 4 people multiplayer and some downloadable game bundled, still, for the average Joe, I believe it will be pretty hard to justify buying one accessory for the price of a console, regardless of it's functions, even if the same 200 means one guy less on PS3.

Consumer perception can be definitive on pricing estrategy. You didn't see EyeToy costing the same as a PS2 last gen, regardless of it being an advanced piece of tech at the time. That said, we are talking MS, so 150US$ wouldn't totally surprise me.

HolyOrangeCows5844d ago

We were already promised a $100 or less bundle of the controller, camera, and a game. We already know for certain that the gamestop post was a screw up.

The natal, however, never received even a ballpark from Microsoft.
And Microsoft is known for over-pricing its proprietary hardware and accessories.

Blaze9295844d ago

don't be stupid. the whole purpose of Natal is to make the 360's lifespan longer and penetrate into Nintendo's casual market. Microsoft and anyone with a damn brain knows that won't happen with anything over $80 USD tops. This thing will NOT cost $200

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Inside_out5844d ago

$200 plus a 360 would be a bad move...Could be 360 arcade plus Natal for $300...who knows...I'm not paying $200...No mention of price cuts for the 360 either...Hmmmm....E3 in June...

markbob5844d ago

Now if that is the price $200 for Natal and an Xbox 360 Arcade sku, then thats not bad. Though I would think MS would drop the Arcade sku to $150 at E3.

If what MS charges for natal only then they are insane and Natal will fail.

guess will have to wait till E3 to find out the real answer. Or at least a week before when all the best buy/target ads get leaked

Kratos Spartan5844d ago (Edited 5844d ago )

Right now, we know nothing of Natal. Nothing. Just the red ball game, to get the name out.

...I don't even know what else to say. All I know is, Microsoft better have an Ace in the sleeve for this one come E3.

This E3 2010 may be the most important event in all of Video Game History. All 3 are banking on new technology for their future. And the future of Entertainment. 2010 will be a year to remember.

moho-foe5844d ago

MS overcharges for everything they sell for the Xbox this is no different...

Darkstorn5844d ago

Tue, but MS simply cannot get product penetration at this price. It's highly implausible that this will sell 'millions' of copies as Microsoft claims, unless this is actually a list price for a Natal/360 combo.

Jazz41085844d ago

Did you forget sony tried to get 600 for the ps3 lol

Kratos Spartan5844d ago (Edited 5844d ago )

Yep. Know what? They got it. No other system could survive that price point. That is the power of...

PLAYSTATION

100 million strong. Times 2. Soon to be...Trey

oohWii5844d ago (Edited 5844d ago )

They didn't survive. I has since cut the price in half. Had they tried to survive it any longer the PS3 would be still under 20M sold.

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- Ghost of Sparta -5844d ago

If this is true, PS Move already has Natal beat.

Kratos Spartan5844d ago

for you to be right behind me. Careful. I am the real deal.

;-)

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jjohan355844d ago

$200 to catch a big red ball? I'd rather walk outside and play with the kids at the park jeez.

paradigmfellow5844d ago

Not even to catch a real ball. It is $200 to just swinging your arms in the air.

Richard Alpert5844d ago

That will send you straight to jail you sick fuck

TOO PAWNED5844d ago (Edited 5844d ago )

Actually it is 150$. Games in usa 60 $, games in Sweden 600skr, which is more then 60$ around 90$, so if games translate like that then 1500skr is 150usd in USA.

paradigmfellow5844d ago

It is still $150 to swing your arms in the air while you can do it right now for free.

TOO PAWNED5844d ago

Yes 3 stores list it at that price
http://www.prisjakt.nu/prod...
but also same 3 stores list MOVE at 900sek
http://www.prisjakt.nu/prod...
Just MOVE with nothing else...

Fanb0y5844d ago

Well, HolyOrangeCows

Natal is Microsoft's big thing.

I haven't seen Microsoft hyping up their hard drives, or their wireless attachments.

Microsoft really wants these peripherals to get into homes. An accessible price is $60... there's no way it'll be sold for $200.

Imperator5844d ago

The fact is, MS is known for overpricing their accessories. Natal is an accessory so it is only logical to assume that they will overprice it and try to rip-off the consumer.

Patrick5844d ago (Edited 5844d ago )

It had to cost them money to buy the company that made natal. It also had to cost them to design and recreate it into what they needed it for, and it has to be and will be costing them to manufacture and advertise it, so do you really expect them to not sell it for quite a bit more than what it cost to build it so they can recoup their money?
You really expect them to work on it for a couple years and then sell it for $60 and take a loss on it? Thats not MS's way, not the MS I know. Yall act like they will give it away for free just to get it into homes.. but I doubt it. They are creating it to make money off of it. Plus the PSeye is $40 and theres not near as much to it as there is to Natal.. at least that is what the Xbox fans say... so it should probably cost quite abit more. I mean, I dont know, thats just how I see it.

cayal5844d ago

Can't see Microsoft selling it for $200

@ TOO PAWNED
600 Swedish Kr is around $77 US

jcgamer5844d ago

MEANING the standalone will be priced too high and the bundle will be priced just right...we all know Natal's initial sales are gonna come from curious 360 owners...Microsoft may be trying to entice existing Xbox owners with the "New Logo" Slim Natal bundle...reliable hardware and Natal for $249.99-$279.99...also, new consumers don't have a 360 at all, so the bundle is THE option...standalone will be priced $30-40 bucks too high in order to sway people towards the "New Logo" Slim Natal Bundle...

i'm just speculating...

MNicholas5844d ago

it comes with a 360.

360 is due for a price-drop anyway.

$149 for standard Arcade or $199 for Arcade with Natal would make sense. After all, now that it's internal chip has been removed, Natal is little more than a webcam and a console firmware update.

mugoldeneagle035844d ago (Edited 5844d ago )

I don't own a 360, and I'm more of a 'Move' guy, but this seems way overpriced. I know MS has a history of overpricing accessories but I think they know it's got to be cheaper than $200 to compete with the Wii/Move.

Obviously we'll hear the details at E3 in a few weeks. I'll wait till then to hold judgement. If true though, Natal will go the way of HD-DVD in no time.

Game13a13y5844d ago

wow, for $99 more you can get a PS3, which does everything btw.

sikbeta5844d ago

It CAN'T cost that much, $200 is a lot for an accessory and people will prefer to stick with the controller...

DJexs5844d ago

I would have to disagree seems fair

nveenio5844d ago

I agree that the price is too high, but I don't think it'll cost $200 in the US. Maybe in Sweeden, but not in the US.

vhero5844d ago (Edited 5844d ago )

Fair enough with MOVE you are gonna need multiple controllers to play multiplayer but you can buy them OVER TIME this is one bulk payment of $200 which is more than the arcade console.. If this is true and the rumour they are bundling with systems is true then be prepared for 360 prices to soar! You would be talking maybe $350 for 360 arcades most likely! Which I cannot see as they would get destroyed.. Patcher did say it looks like they are not bundling with the console now and this price point could be the reason..

EDIT: Just realised one of the companys is GAME
http://www.game.se/acatalog...

They are the biggest game retailer in the UK and are usually not far off when it comes to price.. This adds more salt to the price. Dunno how big they are in Sweden though..

MNicholas5844d ago (Edited 5844d ago )

The original Natal was a webcam with a fancy processor inside.

It was later revealed that the internal processor has been removed and that all the Natal processing algorithms will run on the 360's CPU (Xenon). This means that the Natal hardware is purely a USB audio/video capture device.

In other words, since the the Natal hardware itself did not do any processing, it just captures audio and video, it's now little more than a USB webcam.

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Servbot5845d ago

I would never buy that thing for $200.

Imperator5844d ago

Especially not from a company like MS.

vhero5844d ago

I honestly think if its gonna be this price point they are gonna try force it on new users rather than existing users by bundling it with every console however the price of consoles would soar so high they wouldn't sell many.. It would actually kill 360 if they bundled it.

mistajeff5845d ago

WOOF. if they actually charge that much it's a death wish.

Parapraxis5845d ago

It's listed @ 3 different sites for that price.

BannedForNineYears5844d ago

Wow............Just..........W ow.
That's freaking ridiculous.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

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Jin_Sakai17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio17d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing17d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9217d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit17d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing17d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9217d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay19d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn220d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn219d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown19d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay19d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay19d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac19d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger19d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300019d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde19d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde19d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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Agent7521d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_18d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.