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What Duke Nukem Forever Can Teach PS3 Developers

PS3Center's Grumpy Gamer, Erik Heyl takes a look at the downfall of Duke Nukem and how its problems can help other developers.

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Chaostar5872d ago

Listen up Kazunori Yamauchi!

gaffyh5872d ago

Lol true, but GT5 is coming this year definitely. Kaz is just a perfectionist and wants to make GT definitive, he hasn't changed engines etc. like 3D realms did so many times.

PirateThom5872d ago

Actually, GT5 has changed engines.

GTHD Concept? That was going to be GT5 before they scrapped GT4 HD engine and started fresh, that's why it's taking so long. Even GT5P to GT5 has had numerous engine enhancements.

gaffyh5872d ago

Hmm...guess you do learn something new everyday. I thought it was taking ages because of the high-poly modelling and damage modelling that they were doing this time around. Anyway, whatever the case may be, I can't wait til GT5 releases, my favourite racing series by far.

ShinMaster5872d ago

The GT4 HD engine has nothing to do with GT5.
They just scrapped the HD game to focus on the actual GT5 game.

PirateThom5872d ago

Yeah "Vision Gran Turismo", which was supposed to be "Gran Turismo 5".

But was scrapped.

rockleex5872d ago

Sony is not so stupid as to let a developer just consume their money for over a decade without good progress.

Plus, Polyphony Digital made some money for Sony WHILE making GT5 in the form of Prologue.

By the way, where's my Omega Boost 2?

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swiftshot935872d ago

Yeah, building an engine from scratch must of killed PD. I cant imagine the effort, time, and money that went into that piece of tech. They could have easily got away with a GT4 HD engine too.

El_Colombiano5872d ago

If they had gone with the GT4 HD engine then we would have a game that looks only marginally better than Forza 3. Polyphony Digital love being the best so new engine it was.

Perkel5872d ago

i don't get it, What GT4 HD engine you are talkin about ?

There was no GT4HD engine or Vision engine or any other engine thatn prologue/GT5.

GT4 engine can't be used to do quick GT4 in HD for PS3. And all materials are on same engine with is constantly upgrading with development..

PirateThom5872d ago (Edited 5872d ago )

When Vision Gran Turismo was announced at E3 2006, they were planning to launch it with it being a "download what you want" set up before "Gran Turismo" proper came out. Vision Gran Turismo was a sequel, but it was meant to be a quick launch to tide people over to, what is now, GT5.

They scrapped this plan, because the plan was stupid and it was running on an old engine that wasn't delivering the results they wanted. They released Gran Turismo HD Concept, which was running on that engine, the same engine GT4 was running on, as a demo and, namely, a concept of what Gran Turismo HD would have been.

Remember, an engine is just the bare bones, it can be tweaked and changed and, in this case, a new coat of paint and HD resolutions on GT4 made GTHD.

Double Toasted5872d ago

A rather decent written article that actually brought up a good topic that I really didn't pay attention too.

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Microsoft Xbox 3605872d ago

Just like GT1, GT5 is a completely new engine designed from the ground up. Future installments of GT won't take many years to make. The engine is future proofed for another 4 or 5 GT games.

kaveti66165871d ago

GT5's case is very different from that of DNF. GT5 has is Sony's main course for the PS3 and no matter what, Sony is going to release it. The game will either be out in late 2010 or early 2011.

Chaostar5871d ago

I'm betting they will release it this Autumn/Fall and it will be excellent! I didn't mean to imply that I think it will be vaporware, which I think is the reason so many people disagreed?

I actually just bought a logitech G27 just for this game in the good faith that it will release in the next 6-9 months. Until then I have prologue to practice with :)

Anyone know if Blur, Slit second or Mod nation supports logitech wheels?

GT5 will shift a fluff load of PS3 consoles here in the UK thats for sure.

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ALFAxD_CENTAURO5872d ago

Looks like N4G would be dead without news and articles about PlayStation 3.

dizzleK5872d ago

amen lol. whether it's in love or hate, all everybody does is talk about sony.

jalen2475871d ago

You have a very strong point. :)

dredgewalker5872d ago

Don't take FOREVER to make a game.........

wissam5872d ago

And What is this game has to do with the ps3 developers.

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

Square Enix launches Final Fantasy X 25th anniversary site, revealing new Nomura art, books, music releases, and merchandise.

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-Foxtrot37d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle37d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7737d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay38d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn239d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers38d ago (Edited 38d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn238d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown38d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos38d ago (Edited 38d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay38d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay38d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac38d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger38d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300038d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde38d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood38d ago (Edited 38d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde38d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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FuRyu teases new game ‘Project Alice’ to be announced on April 25

FuRuy has opened a Twitter account called “Project Alice” teasing a new game announcement on April 25 at 20:30 JST.